Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well. then that's your problem.
my problem is ppl thinking he can hang with kryptonian lvl beings and their fore by association making him one too.........
or using a focus attack believing everyone of his attacks will be the same strength ect ect.......
the dude is lucky if he survives the mid lvl metas he is worse then the midnighter fans.........
midnighter wins if their is a 001% of a chance of winning mid will flip it around and make a 100% win
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
my problem is ppl thinking he can hang with kryptonian lvl beings and their fore by association making him one too.........or using a focus attack believing everyone of his attacks will be the same strength ect ect.......
the dude is lucky if he survives the mid lvl metas he is worse then the midnighter fans.........
midnighter wins if their is a 001% of a chance of winning mid will flip it around and make a 100% win
He can survive those types of beings, because he was TRAINED by his master to hang with meta humans. Sounds stoopid.
I mean, how does a normal human being get ACCEPTED in the Legion, if he wasn't special?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
if ppl want to use val is a bench mark for bats thats find but it has too also apply to val as well....making more or less near even...
after all batman has higher MA feats then KK does and has also hurt injured kryptonian lvl being as well and dodged their atks and landed some of his own
in terms of stats, batman's not even close to even 3boot val. remember, he casually knocked colossal boy out of a building and kept up with ultra boy who was using super speed. batman has never done something like that.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
i knew you were going to say something like this. he's not a joke compared to nearly most of the ma in comics. I'd take him over a shang chi or a Richard Dragon. no joke.
He got beat down by a telepathic guard. He hasn't won a single fight, even 3boot Timber Wolf has done more.
3boot KK is Karnak-lite. Fact.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He got beat down by a telepathic guard. He hasn't won a single fight, even 3boot Timber Wolf has done more.3boot KK is Karnak-lite. Fact.
He crushed (when going all out) against an alien that adapted to some of the legion attacks and was able to cause massive craters on the planet. He hardly has any feats, but the ones he does have seem similar to Zero Hour. Like finding weak points and keeping up with metas that have speed.
Originally posted by grimify
How exactly is Wolverine tied with Elektra when she thrashes him, horribly, in all of their encounters. 😆All I really noticed is the same rhetoric, riddled with the usual spelling errors, horrible grammar, and nerd-raging over Wolverine. 😄
She re-trained him when he lost his humanity.
She got the drop on him in EotS when he was in the middle of a fight, and was being kept alive by Shield Tech, moments earlier.
Hurray for ignoring context! 😱
for ppl who think that bats is better skilled their is very little debating or convincing argument to strengthen your side....
their is more downgrading logans accomplishments and dismissing them then actual debating....
no one counters the blatant evidence/examples of bruce failing to match logans high MA feats..
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
She re-trained him when he lost his humanity.She got the drop on him in EotS when he was in the middle of a fight, and was being kept alive by Shield Tech, moments earlier.
Hurray for ignoring context! 😱
Let's not forget that he was also mind-controlled and missing a piece of his soul...
Originally posted by Starscream M
except they'not not top tier fighter as batman is...and batman's done far far more
But they use their skills to survive, so they must be better! ZOMG And Chesire is considered the second deadliest assassin in DC after Shiva, and she's done better against Deathstroke than Batman. ZOMG Chesire > Batman, she uses her skills to survive!111!111 dur
Wolverine has had more training than Batman: Fact
Wolverine has had better training than Batman: Fact
Wolverine has more experience than Batman: Fact
Wolverine has been established as being a master of all terrestrial MAs, Batman has not: Fact
Wolverine has better applications of skill than Batman: Fact
Wolverine has better wins over top tier MA than Batman: Fact
What else is there to compare?