Kratos takes on Organization XIII

Originally posted by XanatosForever
You could be right, considering there are not many mandatory events, or even cutscenes, depicting the Fleece's limits.

I'll admit my knowledge of Kratos's spells is almost nothing. But from what I've seen of Kratos, this is the worse possible enemy for him.

Xigbar can not only change the direction of projectiles to make sure he always hits dead on. But he can also alter the space of terrain. Making holes or ground where there was not before.

As a side note; if Kratos surviving 200 feat is a good durability feat for him then he's in trouble if he's fightning a guy who could alter the space on the floor to go much deeper than that.

Kratos didn't survive a 200 foot fall...Lol.

He was sent flying for miles and through a thick stone roof.

Assuming they are talking about the feat I am thinking of.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I'll admit my knowledge of Kratos's spells is almost nothing. But from what I've seen of Kratos, this is the worse possible enemy for him.

Xigbar can not only change the direction of projectiles to make sure he always hits dead on. But he can also alter the space of terrain. Making holes or ground where there was not before.

As a side note; if Kratos surviving 200 feat is a good durability feat for him then he's in trouble if he's fightning a guy who could alter the space on the floor to go much deeper than that.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Sounds more like a gameplay thingy. Aren't those not allowed?

Originally posted by Phanteros
actually it will depend on the environment they are in. nether the less he will just have to keep moving Kratos has his arrows which he can rapid shot.

Kratos doesn't get past Xigbar until someone can put up a good arguement as to why =\

Kratos' Golden Fleece covers his left arm past the shoulder, and the only cutscene we saw him blocking it with that, so yeah, that is probably how it is used.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I've already stated the locations of each fight.

Kratos doesn't get past Xigbar until someone can put up a good arguement as to why =\

Originally posted by Phanteros
Lets see he can pull out what Sora did to him and bat his attacks back at him. he can also just stone Xigbar can shatter him.

First of all prove you don't need a Keyblade to do that. As only Sora can do that, not donald nor Goofy.

Second, it was PIS anyway, with his powers Xigbar could've redirected them.

That would work but Xigbar has shown the ability to hit dead on without even being present before his targets.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
First of all prove you don't need a Keyblade to do that. As only Sora can do that, not donald nor Goofy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That's faulty reasoning...You need to prove only a Keyblade can do so, not the other way around. I doubt Kratos could ride them, but block them? Sure.

Okay, how about, you can't hurt them until you get the keyblade? Or the fact that only Sora can do it. Or that only Sora displayed the ability to use the powers of enemies he was fighting, which is the logical explanation why Xigbar didn't redirect them back.

That why i doubt Kratos can do it. Highly.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Okay, how about, you can't hurt them until you get the keyblade? Or the fact that only Sora can do it. Or that only Sora displayed the ability to use the powers of enemies he was fighting, which is the logical explanation why Xigbar didn't redirect them back.

That why i doubt Kratos can do it. Highly.

I mean he could reflect them, not ride them like Sora did.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Can't hurt him until you get the Keyblade? You have it before you meet him...Sora might only be able to do it because only he has the reflexes to do so, and because of gameplay. 😐 As for using the powers, wut?

I mean he could reflect them, not ride them like Sora did.

I was speaking about Nobodies in general. You can't hurt them until you get a Keyblade in the game. No, he can only doing it because of gameplay essentially.

Prove it, lol

I think we call that a no limit fallacy and dismiss it. Which is why Ganon can be hurt by things other than the Master Sword and Light Arrows for these threads.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I was speaking about Nobodies in general. You can't hurt them until you get a Keyblade in the game. No, he can only doing it because of gameplay essentially.

Prove it, lol

He can do so to Zeus' lightning, which has destroyed buildsings. Something Xigbar has not done. 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Others in KH can destroy Nobodies without.

He can do so to Zeus' lightning, which has destroyed buildsings. Something Xigbar has not done. 😐

Like who? If gameplay feats are not canon, i challenge you to find me one person who can hurt nobodies. Riku excluded.

Is lightning and the attacks of Xigbar the same?

Don't Leon and the others fight Nobodies in cut scenes? Or was that just Heartless?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Don't Leon and the others fight Nobodies in cut scenes? Or was that just Heartless?

Just heartless

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like who? If gameplay feats are not canon, i challenge you to find me one person who can hurt nobodies. Riku excluded.

Is lightning and the attacks of Xigbar the same?

No, the lightning is stronger. Sure, Xigbar can manipulate it in mid-air, but that does not mean Kratos cannot deflect it, it only makes it more difficult to do so.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Riku was able to do so, and lacked a Keyblade. Yeah. Seriously, it is not stated anywhere in the game that you need a Keyblade to kill a Nobody, Sora is not able to kill Heartless without a Keyblade, yet we see guys like Squall, Cloud, and Sephiroth do so just fine.

No, the lightning is stronger. Sure, Xigbar can manipulate it in mid-air, but that does not mean Kratos cannot deflect it, it only makes it more difficult to do so.

You never see Squall, Cloud, or Sephiroth so much as touch a nobody. Nevermind fight one and win. Also Roxas wasn't able to hurt one without the keyblade, not even Hurt one mesely dusk. Nevermind a member of the 13.

So because he can defect that he can this? Are you sure that's stable logic?

That and so what? if we assume Xigbar is fighting properly, unlike the game, meaning, not being in melee range when he doesn't have to be. There's no reason he can't send it right back to Kratos, and if he's firing more as he does so, Kratos can't hope to stop them all.

As for Roxas not being able to hurt the nobodies. He had like a ordinary bat against them. and it was the same situation as in the original Kingdom Hearts when sora couldn't attack the heartless with wooden sword.