DP Tyrant vs. Monarch

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your long responses make me have to read... and i HATE reading. uhuh

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well I did agree that Monarch was jobbing some. The reason why I brought it up was because you and others were saying Monarch beat tougher competition and easier. What I'm pointing out that... when you lose a one v. one battle against your toughest foe.. that can hardly constitute doing anything easier. He got killed. Whatever the reason.. it certainly wasn't an easy fight and certainly not easier than how Tyrant did in battle.

So, again my friend I brought that up because that was your reasoning for giving Monarch the win.. because he faced tougher people and did so easier.. Imo that isn't true.

jobbing some? he jobbed throughout the better majority of the battle. stevie wonder could see that his non-PIS battles during "arena" were vastly different from his jobbed-up battle against prime in "countdown".

oh and i never once gave monarch the win. just stated reasons why he'd put up a good fight [no matter the outcome.] 😉

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
My point here is this... You were saying the only reason Tyrant did well was because Galactus own blasts were powering him up. Yes I agree that is a reason he did well. However, what I'm saying is that also isn't looking at what transpired on panel. Galactus didn't know Tyrant could do that.. Yet he still prepped and feed before the battle. He still commented that he didn't want to fight Tyrant because nothing would be left after. Surfer still commented that he need to go there before they both killed each other. Neither knew Tyrant could do that and yet going by on panel words and actions still viewed him as a big threat was my point.
i never said the 'only' reason tyrant fared well was because of his BSE absorption capabilities, i said that was the main reason. afterall, it was only when he started absorbing BSE that tyrant began to gain the edge.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I agree it wasn't a true UN blast. However, my point here is that one is multiversal and the other is Universal. One is exponentially greater than the other. So, to say just because he couldn't survive a multiversal blast means he couldn't survive a far lesser one? That certainly can't be said for certain. It's clear that his durability is quite good... Nothing anybody did had any effect on Tyrant sans Galactus really. Taking all those blasts from peak heralds and Trans level people and having no affect on him shows his durability. Even taking a lesser UN blast and still being there says something. It said nothing of attacking only his extremities. It just wasn't done right. Point is he still survived the first blast, which considering his durability must've been very strong none the less.
there is absolutely no way to know how powerful those specific UN blasts were. though we can logically say they were << universal because, well, they didn't destroy the universe [or anywhere near it.]

Monarch easily

Tyrant easily.

Originally posted by batosaimsx
Monarch easily
Originally posted by Mindset
Tyrant easily.

Monarch with ease, I think if Tyrant begs for his life, Monarch might give him a job

Tyrant with ease, I think if Monarch begs for his life, Tyrant might let him give him a blowjob.

Monarch wins

Originally posted by Galan007
your long responses make me have to read... and i HATE reading. uhuh

jobbing some? he jobbed throughout the better majority of the battle. stevie wonder could see that his non-PIS battles during "arena" were vastly different from his jobbed-up battle against prime in "countdown".

oh and i never once gave monarch the win. just stated reasons why he'd put up a good fight [no matter the outcome.] 😉

i never said the 'only' reason tyrant fared well was because of his BSE absorption capabilities, i said that was the main reason. afterall, it was only when he started absorbing BSE that tyrant began to gain the edge.

there is absolutely no way to know how powerful those specific UN blasts were. though we can logically say they were << universal because, well, they didn't destroy the universe [or anywhere near it.]

I will only point out one thing Galan. You said yourself those were specific UN blasts. Even pointing out they just attacked his extremities. So IMO, we have no way of knowing what would have occurred or how powerful it truly was had they not just attacked those specifically.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I will only point out one thing Galan. You said yourself those were specific UN blasts. Even pointing out they just attacked his extremities. So IMO, we have no way of knowing what would have occurred or how powerful it truly was had they not just attacked those specifically.
exactly. the meager UN blast morg initially discharged [the one that did no damage to taa II] could have completely annihilated tyrant as well.

Originally posted by Mindset
Tyrant with ease, I think if Monarch begs for his life, Tyrant might let him give him a blowjob.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Monarch for the majority.
How?

What kind of evidence are you going to bring to the table to suggest that Monarch has the power to defeat Tyrant?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yeah, I say Monarch wins. The characters he defeated are stronger then the character DP Tyrant defeated. Not to mention, he beat them easier.
Tyrant was never defeated by any of the characters he faced. Monarch's armor is very breachable. Tyrant also went up against more powerful characters while Monarch merely owned top tiers.

The moment he went up against someone above that status he went down.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Still haven't seen proof of Tyrants cosmic awareness.
What does that have to do with anything? Why does he need ca to defeat Monarch?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah thats not what i typed nor what i thought you meant. Either way Tyrant scanning Prime for weaknesses isn't only out of character but it can't be supported by on panel feats.
Why would Tyrant need to scan Prime for weakness when he can just beat him into submission?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
My fault, I though you said he was weak.

Regardless, you still view Prime with the GA inferior to Thanos. That's what I don't get. I am going to need those scans.

Red Sun works to a point. Prime has gone though a red star and landed on a planet. Without injury. If you don't call that resistance I don't know what to say.

Also, this will turn into a Prime vs Tyrant because you view Prime weaker then anyone Tyrant fought. That's false! Well, that's my opinion

I also view Prime as weaker than Thanos with the ga powerup. It's also only a temporary powerup which is weaker than some of the characters Thanos has faced off against, personally.

Originally posted by batosaimsx
Monarch easily
Tyrant is nothing to a guy that had 52 monitors $hitting themselves
These Monitors were jokes and his ragtag army was putting it to them. Tyrant has Galactus prepping himself for his fight not some joker Monitors.

Quan just no unless your going to reading every post between me an Kurupt to understand why i made those comments don't quote me please 😬

I don't even want to reply to this dude!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't even want to reply to this dude!
Yes that will be my last response to him in this thread 😱

I don't think he understand that I we had this arguement like 3 times already. It pretty funny 😉

This thread just goes to show that Tyrant needs to come back. He was such an awesome villain who took out some of the best from Marvel with ease. Tyrant had such a short lifespan in the comics, but some very good showings.Iit would be foolish for the writers not to bring him back. Make Tyrant fight Rulk, Thor and the Avengers. Let's see how they would put up against him.

Let's see now, Monarch took out roughly 52 captain atoms. That feat easily trumps the fight where Tyrant+his army takes out a couple of mid heralds.

Originally posted by PowerCosmic
This thread just goes to show that Tyrant needs to come back. He was such an awesome villain who took out some of the best from Marvel with ease. Tyrant had such a short lifespan in the comics, but some very good showings.Iit would be foolish for the writers not to bring him back. Make Tyrant fight Rulk, Thor and the Avengers. Let's see how they would put up against him.

He was an uninteresting Gary Stu with absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's see now, Monarch took out roughly 52 captain atoms. That feat easily trumps the fight where Tyrant+his army takes out a couple of mid heralds.

He was an uninteresting Gary Stu with absolutely no redeeming qualities.

What are you talking about he was shit hot those dreads droolio. As for this thread he loses

Originally posted by iceman24567
Quan just no unless your going to reading every post between me an Kurupt to understand why i made those comments don't quote me please 😬
Feel free to explain it to me. Tyrant is more powerful and strong enough to tear open/blast open his armor.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't even want to reply to this dude!
Then don't.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's see now, Monarch took out roughly 52 captain atoms. That feat easily trumps the fight where Tyrant+his army takes out a couple of mid heralds.

He was an uninteresting Gary Stu with absolutely no redeeming qualities.

And? He took out no one near a skyfather level character. He got beat by Superboy Prime's strength minus the amp.

Who beat Tyrant?