Originally posted by thanos-primeNo thats pure speed in my opinion.
can't tell if this is teleporting but
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here is another
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Originally posted by wolveirne&sabsso dodging bullets from someone with superior tech isn't as good as dodging it from someone with simple weaponry? and also keep in mind he wasn't even amped
all you got as a proof of his abilities is his fight against iron man thats it, iron man who doesnt have much fighting skills so its not a surprise he schooled iron man, avoiding lasers from iron man doesnt mean crap against someone who counter machine gun fire with 1 arm
Originally posted by wolveirne&sabsand tony was trained by steve rogers so he isn't completely slow in hand to hand combat
all you got as a proof of his abilities is his fight against iron man thats it, iron man who doesnt have much fighting skills so its not a surprise he schooled iron man, avoiding lasers from iron man doesnt mean crap against someone who counter machine gun fire with 1 arm
Originally posted by Juk3n
Battlehammer has a point. Look at the scans of the shots Temugin gave Ironmans armor, apply them to an opponent with Gorgons stats/skill level , include the probability of the ability to roll with/half block/counter said blows because he is a master martial artist with truely superhuman reflexes and speed. Add to the fact he has a battlefield healing factor, baring in mind his OWN durability... he fell or rather was prepelled 50 feet on to concrete with his head (which is not re-enforced by Adamantium or some other heavy metal) and was unscathed. It's not a cut and dry win for Temugin by any stretch of the imagination. Can he win? Sure he can, but for damage soak reasons i say Gorgon stands a better chance.
What the hell how does he have a point? Im not saying he one-shots Gorgon but clearly has the capability to KO Gorgon its not like hes going to struggle to KO Gorgon like Spiderman was struggling to KO Wolverine.
C'mon now don't encourage him. 😬
Originally posted by Juk3n
shrugging off blunt force trauma while impressive is not in the same league as say..having all 6 of wolverines claws and 2 of Elektras katanas through your body. (chest and abdomin) And still kicking 4 types of shit out of them..
Not it isn't but that doesnt mean you can take loads of blunt force trauma. Wolverine can get stabbed all day long he takes some serious class 100 punches and hes going down.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
so dodging bullets from someone with superior tech isn't as good as dodging it from someone with simple weaponry? and also keep in mind he wasn't even amped
are you really trying to compare a laser shot from iron man which is just a laser shot speed something every x - men going true in the danger roon when they train so you try to compare a laser shot to 5-10 people shooting machine gun at you from different direction and he counter all that with 1 arm and avoid that without any trouble are you really trying to compare that? give me a break
how do you know he wasnt amped? can you prove he wasnt? and even if he was can you prove it gives him greater speed and everything? and still avoiding laser shots is ordenery in marvel hell people like daredevil wolverine do it all day long and look what happened to wolverine and elektra who is daredevil level if not better
Originally posted by wolveirne&sabsif it is ordinary then why do you use gorgons speed feats over him? and your using the x-men they train every day to do stuff like that bad example and it obviously does enhance him or it wouldn't be called an amp now would it?
are you really trying to compare a laser shot from iron man which is just a laser shot speed something every x - men going true in the danger roon when they train so you try to compare a laser shot to 5-10 people shooting machine gun at you from different direction and he counter all that with 1 arm and avoid that without any trouble are you really trying to compare that? give me a breakhow do you know he wasnt amped? can you prove he wasnt? and even if he was can you prove it gives him greater speed and everything? and still avoiding laser shots is ordenery in marvel hell people like daredevil wolverine do it all day long and look what happened to wolverine and elektra who is daredevil level if not better
Furthermore look at Gorgons fight with Stonewall in the Secret Warriors. Stonewalls punches were clearly getting Gorgon, does the fact that he took shots from Wolverine and Elektra stop him from getting rocked? Nope.
All it is is some Wolverine wanking. Yeah Gorgon has taken shots from Wolverine now all of a sudden hes the man. Sorry mate but when you can smash Iron Mans armour with your barehands thats not stopping you from getting Koed, hell how many bricks could do that with one shot?
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