Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Sorry mate but when you can smash Iron Mans armour with your barehands thats not stopping you from getting Koed, hell how many bricks could do that with one shot?😬 😬 😬 😬
Not many indeed, but thats not a good thing. Who's the strongest brick to hit ironman with a full on blow to the chest, but still leaving the armor intact?
I don't know who it is, but im pretty sure whoever it is has a strength rating well and truly above Temugin.
So, either temugin is stronger than the strongest brick to ever hit ironman that couldnt damage his armor? nope
Or there was some PIS involved.
I think you mean Spidey/Firelord. PIS is when people fight stupidly when they are not canonically stupid. There's never PIS involved in a durability/power-showing.
And no, I wouldn't consider Temugin's being able to damage Iron Man's armor to be a Spidey-Firelord situation. He and his father have been able to do it far too consistently for far too long.
Originally posted by VanMae
I think you mean Spidey/Firelord. PIS is when people fight stupidly when they are not canonically stupid. There's never PIS involved in a durability/power-showing.And no, I wouldn't consider Temugin's being able to damage Iron Man's armor to be a Spidey-Firelord situation. He and his father have been able to do it far too consistently for far too long.
There are differnt levels of PIS you know. As in a PIS showing for ironmans armor. Ironman has taken shots from Hulk and Thor to name a few, witout breaking his armor...yet a chi-amp from a human is able to??
C'mon dude, they're ironman baddies there's always gonna be some PIS involved in fights together. :/
Originally posted by VanMae
There's never PIS involved in a durability/power-showing.
Cap knocked out Hulk...power/durability PIS right there.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Not many indeed, but thats not a good thing. Who's the strongest brick to hit ironman with a full on blow to the chest, but still leaving the armor intact?
I don't know who it is, but im pretty sure whoever it is has a strength rating well and truly above Temugin.So, either temugin is stronger than the strongest brick to ever hit ironman that couldnt damage his armor? nope
Or there was some PIS involved.
Serioulsy whats wrong with you today? Its temugins ability to do that, you know? Hes flipped over a tank use martial arts, and hit a being made out of energy using chi. Was all that PIS? facepalm
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Serioulsy whats wrong with you today? Its temugins ability to do that, you know? Hes flipped over a tank use martial arts, and hit a being made out of energy using chi. Was all that PIS? facepalm
fair point. feats say he does.
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i guess for all the genuine brick shots ironmans armor has withstood over his career and not broken, we'll put down to, not being direct blows or somthing...
first of all the scans you posted doesnt prove anything, avoiding laser shots from iron man is something any street level MA guy could do, hell guys like daredevil wolverine elektra avoiding laser shots and blasts all the time hell even cyclops who is just athlete level at agility and speed, temugin just got out of the way when iron man shot him so its not a speed feat that can be compared to gorgon who was able to block machine gun fire from 5 people with 1 arm now thats a speed feat and reflex, he was able to beat elektra down while avoiding machine gun fire and made her look slow motion thats speed feat ... tomugin doesnt have anything to top that or to suggest he is even near the speed of gorgon
there is a scan of tomugin trying to hit sentry and sentry just grab his leg and throws him miles in the air Lol i would post that scan if it wasnt that stupid kmc rule that new guys cant post liks but the fact tomugin jump to kick him and sentry without even move just stand in his place grab his leg and throws tomugin show you that tomugin doesnt have any special speed he is just a trained human unlike gorgon who got real and serious super human abilities
its so dumb how everybody base this argument by saying temugin was able to crack iron mans armor Lol , first of all namor, hulk, thor ... those bricks that i mentioned couldnt crack his armor with a punch so you are saying that a hit from tomugin >>>> a hit from hulk and thor? if you say so allow me to laugh really hard at you .. this feat was a pure PIS just like captain america beating down hulk , and even if somehow we take it as a serious feat... it doesnt help temugin in any way because gorgon is classes better then him in speed reflex he is too fast for tamugin and gorgon can read his mind and counter any hit from tomugin avoid it and then beat him down like he did to elektra and wolverine
so to conclude that lets see, gorgon can read tomugin mind know all his moves and react before tomugin can do anything because as we saw gorgon got the much better speed feats and agility which means gorgon is by far faster then tomugin and mind reading + being faster = tomugin wont be able to land a single hit on gorgon and gorgon will take him out really fast
besides that i would also argue that gorgon got the better strength feat then tomugin, as you can see in the scan tomugin was hitting iron man multiple times in the chest until his armor cracked so it took many shots from tomugin to crack iron mans armor we cant tell how much exactly, but gorgon with 1 thrust was able to stub wolverine with a sword and pin him into a concrete wall, the sword was stuck deep in the concrete all the way in to the point wolverine who has inhanced strength couldnt pull it out... it took 2 shield egents to pull it out somehow... thats a better strength feat then to hit multiple times iron mans armor
Originally posted by chicio
first of all the scans you posted doesnt prove anything, avoiding laser shots from iron man is something any street level MA guy could do, hell guys like daredevil wolverine elektra avoiding laser shots and blasts all the time hell even cyclops who is just athlete level at agility and speed, temugin just got out of the way when iron man shot him so its not a speed feat that can be compared to gorgon who was able to block machine gun fire from 5 people with 1 arm now thats a speed feat and reflex, he was able to beat elektra down while avoiding machine gun fire and made her look slow motion thats speed feat ... tomugin doesnt have anything to top that or to suggest he is even near the speed of gorgonthere is a scan of tomugin trying to hit sentry and sentry just grab his leg and throws him miles in the air Lol i would post that scan if it wasnt that stupid kmc rule that new guys cant post liks but the fact tomugin jump to kick him and sentry without even move just stand in his place grab his leg and throws tomugin show you that tomugin doesnt have any special speed he is just a trained human unlike gorgon who got real and serious super human abilities
its so dumb how everybody base this argument by saying temugin was able to crack iron mans armor Lol , first of all namor, hulk, thor ... those bricks that i mentioned couldnt crack his armor with a punch so you are saying that a hit from tomugin >>>> a hit from hulk and thor? if you say so allow me to laugh really hard at you .. this feat was a pure PIS just like captain america beating down hulk , and even if somehow we take it as a serious feat... it doesnt help temugin in any way because gorgon is classes better then him in speed reflex he is too fast for tamugin and gorgon can read his mind and counter any hit from tomugin avoid it and then beat him down like he did to elektra and wolverine
so to conclude that lets see, gorgon can read tomugin mind know all his moves and react before tomugin can do anything because as we saw gorgon got the much better speed feats and agility which means gorgon is by far faster then tomugin and mind reading + being faster = tomugin wont be able to land a single hit on gorgon and gorgon will take him out really fast
SOCK, get out.
Originally posted by Mshinu
Again, the Gorgon does not start with a weapon, although there are weapons available in the setting. Consider the nearest rack to be 20 feet to the side.And, there are two rounds, one without TP and one with.
even without the telepathy he is still too fast and strong for temugin, he is still undead and still has an amazing healing factor and amazing damage soak he is too much for temugin
Originally posted by chicioaccording to you anyone in the marvel U can dodge/reflect bullets so until you provide something not average. Tem is stronger than him a healing factor doesn't matter much if the other guy has the striking force to punch his head clean off
even without the telepathy he is still too fast and strong for temugin, he is still undead and still has an amazing healing factor and amazing damage soak he is too much for temugin
Originally posted by chiciowow using sentry to try to prove a point? did you forget the fact that he has superspeed? and it is not pis to crack Im's armor because his father has done it as well and when thor actually tried he did it with ease
first of all the scans you posted doesnt prove anything, avoiding laser shots from iron man is something any street level MA guy could do, hell guys like daredevil wolverine elektra avoiding laser shots and blasts all the time hell even cyclops who is just athlete level at agility and speed, temugin just got out of the way when iron man shot him so its not a speed feat that can be compared to gorgon who was able to block machine gun fire from 5 people with 1 arm now thats a speed feat and reflex, he was able to beat elektra down while avoiding machine gun fire and made her look slow motion thats speed feat ... tomugin doesnt have anything to top that or to suggest he is even near the speed of gorgonthere is a scan of tomugin trying to hit sentry and sentry just grab his leg and throws him miles in the air Lol i would post that scan if it wasnt that stupid kmc rule that new guys cant post liks but the fact tomugin jump to kick him and sentry without even move just stand in his place grab his leg and throws tomugin show you that tomugin doesnt have any special speed he is just a trained human unlike gorgon who got real and serious super human abilities
its so dumb how everybody base this argument by saying temugin was able to crack iron mans armor Lol , first of all namor, hulk, thor ... those bricks that i mentioned couldnt crack his armor with a punch so you are saying that a hit from tomugin >>>> a hit from hulk and thor? if you say so allow me to laugh really hard at you .. this feat was a pure PIS just like captain america beating down hulk , and even if somehow we take it as a serious feat... it doesnt help temugin in any way because gorgon is classes better then him in speed reflex he is too fast for tamugin and gorgon can read his mind and counter any hit from tomugin avoid it and then beat him down like he did to elektra and wolverine
so to conclude that lets see, gorgon can read tomugin mind know all his moves and react before tomugin can do anything because as we saw gorgon got the much better speed feats and agility which means gorgon is by far faster then tomugin and mind reading + being faster = tomugin wont be able to land a single hit on gorgon and gorgon will take him out really fast
Originally posted by thanos-prime
according to you anyone in the marvel U can dodge/reflect bullets so until you provide something not average. Tem is stronger than him a healing factor doesn't matter much if the other guy has the striking force to punch his head clean off
first of all i never sayed anyone can reflect bullets i said most marvel heroes can avoid laser shots and laser shots are not that fast as a bullet speed, and even if we take bullet avoiding feats then still most heroes are avoiding bullets by getting out of the way of the gun and its against a single person , gorgon was able to stand still in the place and counter 5 guys shooting machine guns at him... thats far far more then just avoid bullets
can you prove that temugin can punch his head off? show me feats of temugin punching someones head off .... gorgon is undead has amazing damage soak and has a healing factor together with the fact that he has super human durability i really doubt tomugin is able to take him out with 1 punch, as i said before temugin isnt going to be able to even land a single strike on gorgon because gorgon will take him out way before that, he is just too fast for tamugin... isnt it what most people here use in spider-man favor when they just go and say "spider-man is too fast he wont get hit" right? 🙄
Originally posted by chicioTemugin doesn't need a weapon he easily has the striking power to punch holes in gorgon
i know people here are trying to defend temugin just to show there debating skills but seriously people... place your hand on your heart close your eyes... and tell me you really think that gorgon with a katana wont cut tomugin in half the second the fight starts seriously guys 🙂
Originally posted by thanos-prime
wow using sentry to try to prove a point? did you forget the fact that he has superspeed? and it is not pis to crack Im's armor because his father has done it as well and when thor actually tried he did it with ease
the fact that sentry with his super human speed didnt even need to move or do anything just grab temugin and throw him like a 3 year old kid shows that temugin is just another human without super speed
as i said before do you really say that temugin's strikes >>>> namor, hulk, hercules, thor? 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by chicioi don't have to provide scans of him punching someone's head off when he shows the strength to do so it is within his limits to do it and i have already provided speed scans
first of all i never sayed anyone can reflect bullets i said most marvel heroes can avoid laser shots and laser shots are not that fast as a bullet speed, and even if we take bullet avoiding feats then still most heroes are avoiding bullets by getting out of the way of the gun and its against a single person , gorgon was able to stand still in the place and counter 5 guys shooting machine guns at him... thats far far more then just avoid bulletscan you prove that temugin can punch his head off? show me feats of temugin punching someones head off .... gorgon is undead has amazing damage soak and has a healing factor together with the fact that he has super human durability i really doubt tomugin is able to take him out with 1 punch, as i said before temugin isnt going to be able to even land a single strike on gorgon because gorgon will take him out way before that, he is just too fast for tamugin... isnt it what most people here use in spider-man favor when they just go and say "spider-man is too fast he wont get hit" right? 🙄
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Temugin doesn't need a weapon he easily has the striking power to punch holes in gorgon
prove he can punch holes in someone who has super human durability and a healing factor its like sayingf he can punch a hole in wolverine if wolverine also had super durability to go wityh his healing factor
while i provide facts you provide nothing but speculations over and over again based on 1 PIS feat he did which wont help him in this fight