Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but in this very issue he clearly stated his powers had returned. The writer intended for him to be at optimum power to take on the Hulk. Nowhere in this comic was it mentioned that he was still depowered for their fight.
Post a scan where it stated his full power has returned. Shit, all we see is some lightning and suddenly his back at full power? His power level was in a constant state of flux.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He went into a berserker rage but that's besides the point. It was intended for this issue and for their fight for both to be completely into the battle at full power.
Okay. Like I said, where did it say he was at full power? His power level was in a constant of flux man. That fight is ambiguous at best. That's why I don't use it to judge how well it would go between either of them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was embarrassed because he put so many innocents in harm's way all because of his warrior pride. He didn't completely lose it but he was ashamed of his own actions.
Like I said, he got into the fight, he was enjoying it, but he didn't lose it he was completely coherent. Hence why, when they were knocked into the train tracks, he was worried about the train and the danger it would cause. That's why he dropped his hammer and let it fly away to keep the lady safe. He was coherent enough to not endanger human life. He was simply ashamed that he fought for no other reason to fight. To Thor that has no honor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is a stronger, smarter Hulk. Hulk's powerset favors him not Thor in the manner in which they fight each other.
I will admit, that a slug fest is Hulk's strong suit. That is the truth, but it doesn't mean Thor can't match him in a slug fest either though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor relies on his hammer. Both don't go down for the count against each other, but the battles usually favor the Hulk imo. Thor fights it the way Hulk wants him to. Hulk will eventually win. Thor will eventually go down.
He relies on it but he doesn't need it as shown. That could be your view point, but it's always been a stalemate between the two.
Thor fights hand to hand because he wants to. His lucky the writers have Thor do it the way he does.
Baseless. If hours of fighting haven't let Hulk over power Thor, then I doubt it will ever happen. It's a dynamic between the two. A stalemate.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't know how much power the Sentry has though. He went all out and like I said Thor never achieved this against weaker Hulks so we can't assume Thor can do this.
It's never been shown to happen to other Hulks. It just might be specific to Green Scar who knows. Like you said it could be Banner's mind set that allowed it to happen.
Thor has impressed me more than Sentry has over the years.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk was more durable back in the day but now it seems his healing factor has compensated for his lack of durability. The writer intended for this Hulk to be the strongest there was up until we saw WB Hulk.
True enough. But Hulk had a healing factor plus a nigh invincible body back in the day.
He didn't have the feats to put him above War Hulk or Banner less Hulk. If we go by what writers intended to be, than the creator for both Hulk and Thor intended "Thor > Hulk".
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk would beat Thor. Until Thor beats up regular Hulk into submission I don't see you having a case.
No he wouldn't. Like I said no matter the incarnation, whether it's Professor, Savage or Banner less Hulk it's never been more than a stalemate. And it never will be. Hell, that was what was going to happen in the original draft.
Hulk will never out brawl Thor, and Thor will never out brawl Hulk. It's always been the case, and you who so focuses on the comic way of doing things should see that by now.
Banner less Hulk was more impressive and more durable than Green Scar. Does this mean Thor is going to put down Green Scar? No it doesn't. It'll still be a stalemate.
To say one defeats the other completely ignores their comic book history.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt was implied. You can act like it wasn't but that's just you favoring Thor and refusing to accept the obvious.
Post a scan where it stated his full power has returned. Shit, all we see is some lightning and suddenly his back at full power? His power level was in a constant state of flux.Okay. Like I said, where did it say he was at full power? His power level was in a constant of flux man. That fight is ambiguous at best. That's why I don't use it to judge how well it would go between either of them.
Like I said, he got into the fight, he was enjoying it, but he didn't lose it he was completely coherent. Hence why, when they were knocked into the train tracks, he was worried about the train and the danger it would cause. That's why he dropped his hammer and let it fly away to keep the lady safe. He was coherent enough to not endanger human life. He was simply ashamed that he fought for no other reason to fight. To Thor that has no honor.
I will admit, that a slug fest is Hulk's strong suit. That is the truth, but it doesn't mean Thor can't match him in a slug fest either though.
He relies on it but he doesn't need it as shown. That could be your view point, but it's always been a stalemate between the two.
Thor fights hand to hand because he wants to. His lucky the writers have Thor do it the way he does.
Baseless. If hours of fighting haven't let Hulk over power Thor, then I doubt it will ever happen. It's a dynamic between the two. A stalemate.
True enough. But Hulk had a healing factor plus a nigh invincible body back in the day.
He didn't have the feats to put him above War Hulk or Banner less Hulk. If we go by what writers intended to be, than the creator for both Hulk and Thor intended "Thor > Hulk".
No he wouldn't. Like I said no matter the incarnation, whether it's Professor, Savage or Banner less Hulk it's never been more than a stalemate. And it never will be. Hell, that was what was going to happen in the original draft.
Hulk will never out brawl Thor, and Thor will never out brawl Hulk. It's always been the case, and you who so focuses on the comic way of doing things should see that by now.
Banner less Hulk was more impressive and more durable than Green Scar. Does this mean Thor is going to put down Green Scar? No it doesn't. It'll still be a stalemate.
To say one defeats the other completely ignores their comic book history.
In this issue his power was restored. You can talk about Thor's power constantly being in flux but in this issue for this fight it wasn't.
That's still putting innocents in harm's way. Because of their fight innocents were still in danger. He still protected them, but the battle was only to prove who was mightier and quite pointless.
It's Hulk's bread and butter. Thor can hang with him, but in the end it favors the Hulk.
It was later admitted I think in an annual that Hulk is the stronger of the two. It's quite obvious anyways, but Thor needs his hammer at both of their best to take down the Hulk.
Not WW Hulk. WW Hulk was above Thor imo.
This is because they want to appease both fan bases. On here we can have heroes kill and Superman get beaten by Thor. A comic would never see the print that would have Thor beat Superman as dc would never ever let it happen. If you want to embrace this logic here you have all but given up on Thor against Superman.
WW Hulk is superior to Thor based on Thor never beating a regular Hulk into submission before.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was implied. You can act like it wasn't but that's just you favoring Thor and refusing to accept the obvious.In this issue his power was restored. You can talk about Thor's power constantly being in flux but in this issue for this fight it wasn't.
Show me where it was implied or stated his full power was restored?
That's baseless. His power level was ambiguous at best in this issue. I don't know how you can claim otherwise.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's still putting innocents in harm's way. Because of their fight innocents were still in danger. He still protected them, but the battle was only to prove who was mightier and quite pointless.
He put himself at Hulk's mercy just to get innocents out of the way. Whenever their fighting directly endangered mortals, Thor tried to get them out of harm's way.
Like I said, he fought for no other reason to fight. Hence why he was so ashamed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's Hulk's bread and butter. Thor can hang with him, but in the end it favors the Hulk.
It never has, and it's baseless to assume it will now. It's Hulk's shtick but he has only managed to stalemate Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was later admitted I think in an annual that Hulk is the stronger of the two. It's quite obvious anyways, but Thor needs his hammer at both of their best to take down the Hulk.
No it wasn't. Hulk jumps an unsuspecting Thor, lands on his face, and pounds on him relentlessly, and is still unable to put Thor down. His already getting up next panel.
No it's not quite obvious. Far from it.
Thor being battle savvy has been sufficient to punk the Hulk in the past. When he uses his speed, the Hulk can't even tell where Thor goes, and his superior skill gives him an advantage. Fighting smart like he use to, and Thor would gain the momentum. Going blow for blow? Stalemate, with the healing factor favoring Hulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not WW Hulk. WW Hulk was above Thor imo.
This is baseless. Show me what feats Green Scar has that puts him above Thor? What did he do that Thor or say Superman could not as well accomplish?
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is because they want to appease both fan bases. On here we can have heroes kill and Superman get beaten by Thor. A comic would never see the print that would have Thor beat Superman as dc would never ever let it happen. If you want to embrace this logic here you have all but given up on Thor against Superman.
I haven't. And it's not a baseless editorial mandate that isn't backed up by feats. Thor simply rivals the Hulk in strength. Hulk hasn't amped up to a level he would surpass him yet.
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk is superior to Thor based on Thor never beating a regular Hulk into submission before.
The same could be said for Banner less Hulk who was a hell of a lot more impressive than Savage Hulk, and guess what? Never did more than stalemate Thor either.
Like I said it's been a dynamic between the two. A constant stalemate. That's because Hulk has never managed to amp up to a level his above Thor because of Thor's vast strength reserve.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBecause of Thor's demeanor when his powers returned. It's obvious he was meant to be at full power. It drives you crazy so you'll deny common sense in this instance.
Show me where it was implied or stated his full power was restored?That's baseless. His power level was ambiguous at best in this issue. I don't know how you can claim otherwise.
He put himself at Hulk's mercy just to get innocents out of the way. Whenever their fighting directly endangered mortals, Thor tried to get them out of harm's way.
Like I said, he fought for no other reason to fight. Hence why he was so ashamed.
It never has, and it's baseless to assume it will now. It's Hulk's shtick but he has only managed to stalemate Thor.
No it wasn't. Hulk jumps an unsuspecting Thor, lands on his face, and pounds on him relentlessly, and is still unable to put Thor down. His already getting up next panel.
No it's not quite obvious. Far from it.
Thor being battle savvy has been sufficient to punk the Hulk in the past. When he uses his speed, the Hulk can't even tell where Thor goes, and his superior skill gives him an advantage. Fighting smart like he use to, and Thor would gain the momentum. Going blow for blow? Stalemate, with the healing factor favoring Hulk.
This is baseless. Show me what feats Green Scar has that puts him above Thor? What did he do that Thor or say Superman could not as well accomplish?
I haven't. And it's not a baseless editorial mandate that isn't backed up by feats. Thor simply rivals the Hulk in strength. Hulk hasn't amped up to a level he would surpass him yet.
The same could be said for Banner less Hulk who was a hell of a lot more impressive than Savage Hulk, and guess what? Never did more than stalemate Thor either.
Like I said it's been a dynamic between the two. A constant stalemate. That's because Hulk has never managed to amp up to a level his above Thor because of Thor's vast strength reserve.
Yes, but Thor doesn't have Hulk's powers so in the end Hulk wins regardless of them not finishing their battles or not in the comics.
Yes, as he can be easily goaded by the retarded Hulk doesn't bode well for Thor against WW Hulk by any means.
If you are going to say Hulk isn't stronger than Thor you're just a liar. Statements like these are what lead people to call you a fanboy. Hulk is the stronger of the two.
How many times has Thor beaten the Hulk?
Recover from the adamamatium bullets for one. Thor isn't matching Juggs like WW Hulk did either. Supes isn't built like the Hulk and can't weather these storms either.
This is another boldfaced lie. Hulk is stronger than Thor. Onslaught Hulk, WW Hulk, and WW Hulk would own him in a strength contest.
Because of the fancamps. You can't even prove Thor can beat Hulk at all let alone a stronger, smarter Hulk.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusGood.
Will finish this shit when I get back.
What I've said all along. Hulk is the stronger of the two while Thor is more powerful.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/HulkANN2001_24a.jpg
Like I said earlier he forgot about the innocents briefly in his battle with the Hulk. Here's proof of it.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_18.jpg
Thor even realizes Hulk's strength has no limits. He was getting stronger as the battle wore on while Thor wasn't.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_20.jpg
At the end of the battle Thor is bloodied and beat up while Hulk is stronger than ever and completely fine from all the damage he had sustained.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_23.jpg
Yeah, WW Hulk beats Thor up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Who do you favor out of a straight up confrontation between WW Hulk and Thor?
IN a slugfest id give it to WWH for sure. higher base strength than previous hulks+amping as fight goes on would give him the win. In a match where thor fights smart and doesnt just try to brawl then definitely thor.
Originally posted by Naija boySo if Thor fights out of character he wins. I agree by the way. He could bfr the Hulk very easily. If they go head to head WW Hulk wins based on their comic histories.
IN a slugfest id give it to WWH for sure. higher base strength than previous hulks+amping as fight goes on would give him the win. In a match where thor fights smart and doesnt just try to brawl then definitely thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So if Thor fights out of character he wins. I agree by the way. He could bfr the Hulk very easily. If they go head to head WW Hulk wins based on their comic histories.
Meh tactics and attacks generally considered "in character" for thor in regular fights, he never seems to utilize against the hulk. i guess an argument could be made that against hulk in particular thor usually fights a certain way because of warrior pride......
Originally posted by Naija boyDefinitely.
Meh tactics and attacks generally considered "in character" for thor in regular fights, he never seems to utilize against the hulk. i guess an argument could be made that against hulk in particular thor usually fights a certain way because of warrior pride......
It seems marvel doesn't want to favor one over the other as it would violate one fancamp. Even in freddy vs jason the fight ended in a stalemate with neither character vanquishing the other.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of Thor's demeanor when his powers returned. It's obvious he was meant to be at full power. It drives you crazy so you'll deny common sense in this instance.
What demeanor? He said that even Gods can hope for miracles or something along those lines.
It's not driving me crazy, you're just being hard headed. Thor's power set was in a constant flux, at one time he though he had his full powers and tries to summon lightning only to find out he was depowered again. Not even Thor knew whether or not he was at full power. His power level was ambiguous as best like I said.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but Thor doesn't have Hulk's powers so in the end Hulk wins regardless of them not finishing their battles or not in the comics.
So you're basing this not on what happens in comics, but on who you want to win? Gotcha. Thor one shots the Hulk with a God Blast, since where going down that road.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, as he can be easily goaded by the retarded Hulk doesn't bode well for Thor against WW Hulk by any means.
sly
Goaded? He held an innocent woman in danger. Thor would willingly sacrifice his life to safe an innocent. He didn't outsmart Thor, he resorted to cowardice because he feared Thor with Mjolnir in his hands. He was getting smacked around.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight11.jpg
And the Hulk has shown that he is rather coherent at times. It's a bit inconsistent really.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you are going to say Hulk isn't stronger than Thor you're just a liar. Statements like these are what lead people to call you a fanboy. Hulk is the stronger of the two.
And that is your opinion. Unfortunately in the comics, they've only ever stalemated. On top of Thor apparently restrains himself/holding back against the Hulk.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk2.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
How many times has Thor beaten the Hulk?
About twice. Once we he knocked him out with a bolt of lightning, and when he killed him along with the Thing in reigning. Counting non cannon fights about 3 or 4 times I believe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Recover from the adamamatium bullets for one. Thor isn't matching Juggs like WW Hulk did either. Supes isn't built like the Hulk and can't weather these storms either.
That's a rather silly example. I might as well, say Thor creating a lightning storm. I never doubt that Hulk's healing factor is easily superior to Thor's natural own.
Match the Juggernaut? He can and he has. Thor has been shown to rival the Juggernaut in strength. In fact if it's strength vs. strength and no invulnerability enchantment, Thor has taken the advantage.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor7.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is another boldfaced lie. Hulk is stronger than Thor. Onslaught Hulk, WW Hulk, and WW Hulk would own him in a strength contest.
Now you're just being silly. Own Thor in strength? You don't even think they are in the same league, even though beings like the Juggernaut and Sentry have stalemated him?
Oh, and Onslaught Hulk is basically the Banner less Hulk incarnation. The Hulk without the restrictions of Bruce Banner. The same Hulk Thor was going toe to toe with and knocked on his ass in the end.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of the fancamps. You can't even prove Thor can beat Hulk at all let alone a stronger, smarter Hulk.
He has beaten him. And a superior version of the Hulk does not mean he would beat Thor. If that was the case Banner less Hulk would stomp Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Good.
Cool.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What I've said all along. Hulk is the stronger of the two while Thor is more powerful.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/HulkANN2001_24a.jpg
"Hulk may well be stronger than Thor".
I highlighted the key word.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Like I said earlier he forgot about the innocents briefly in his battle with the Hulk. Here's proof of it.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_18.jpg
And like I said, he was intoxicated by the battle. The moment any direct harm came to any innocent bystanders, Thor tried to take action, as shown by your own scan.
Him not telling people dumb enough to run away while they watch him fight the Hulk is not an indication, of Thor being completely oblivious to human danger. He truly does get intoxicated by battle but he still cares. That's evident by your own scan. Hell, Thor cares about the Hulk. He has never wanted to actually kill him but simply to stop him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor even realizes Hulk's strength has no limits. He was getting stronger as the battle wore on while Thor wasn't.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_20.jpg
And how many times has Thor said his own strength is without limit? His shocked that the Hulk keeps getting back up and getting stronger. So what?
Hulk himself has displayed doubt as to who was superior.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight4.jpg
He has never managed to beat Thor much to his frustration.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight19.jpg
Hell, Hulk has shown at least some measure of fear of Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthorfight.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk2.jpg
And Thor has stalemated Hulk for hours. Clearly Hulk despite his amping has never managed to get stronger than Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/HulkThorEqual.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
At the end of the battle Thor is bloodied and beat up while Hulk is stronger than ever and completely fine from all the damage he had sustained.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1987_385_23.jpg
That is the worst damage the Hulk has ever done to Thor. Hell, that's more damage done to Thor than by Mangog or the Destroyer to Thor's face. I can't think of any other instance that Thor has been bruised like that off the top of my head.
Impressive no doubt, but the Hulk continuously wailed on Thor's face (Thor would do a have done worse if he fought him with such a fury.). Unfortunately, superficial wounds to Thor with his Asgardian nature mean absolute shit. This guy keeps on fighting and defeats Absorbing Man when he has every bone in his ribcage broken. He can keep on fighting even when he has every bone in his body broken, and he was in constant agony. A drop of blood, and a bruised lip and eye isn't anything that will slow down Thor. You might as well post the scan of Thor blooding up Hulk with a blow.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor6fight12.jpg
If Thor continuously pounds on Hulk, the result would be worse.
Thor has the only clear win over the Hulk. This is 616 Savage Hulk and Thing, until Thor went back and erased this time line. Doesn't hold as much merit as it was off panel, but it's pretty clear it was a hand to hand fight between the Thing, Hulk and Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsHulkandThing1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsHulkandThing2.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, WW Hulk beats Thor up.
Thor's faced an incarnation at least on Green Scar's level. Hell, he was definitely more impressive in my opinion, and held his own just fine.
Hulk has never managed to out brawl Thor no matter the incarnation. I hope Thor and Green Scar could meet, so that Thor can once against just as easily hold his own.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So if Thor fights out of character he wins. I agree by the way. He could bfr the Hulk very easily. If they go head to head WW Hulk wins based on their comic histories.
Not to be sniping but also based on history it's possible for WWH to burn out while fighting a being rivaling his power, like what happened against Sentry. I could definitely see that happening in a fight between Thor and WWH. That being said Team One still take it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSo you're telling me Thor isn't aware of when he is at full power or not? He had his full power restored for the fight. You are the one being hardheaded.
What demeanor? He said that even Gods can hope for miracles or something along those lines.It's not driving me crazy, you're just being hard headed. Thor's power set was in a constant flux, at one time he though he had his full powers and tries to summon lightning only to find out he was depowered again. Not even Thor knew whether or not he was at full power. His power level was ambiguous as best like I said.
So you're basing this not on what happens in comics, but on who you want to win? Gotcha. Thor one shots the Hulk with a God Blast, since where going down that road.
sly
Goaded? He held an innocent woman in danger. Thor would willingly sacrifice his life to safe an innocent. He didn't outsmart Thor, he resorted to cowardice because he feared Thor with Mjolnir in his hands. He was getting smacked around.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight11.jpgAnd the Hulk has shown that he is rather coherent at times. It's a bit inconsistent really.
And that is your opinion. Unfortunately in the comics, they've only ever stalemated. On top of Thor apparently restrains himself/holding back against the Hulk.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk2.jpg
About twice. Once we he knocked him out with a bolt of lightning, and when he killed him along with the Thing in reigning. Counting non cannon fights about 3 or 4 times I believe.
That's a rather silly example. I might as well, say Thor creating a lightning storm. I never doubt that Hulk's healing factor is easily superior to Thor's natural own.
Match the Juggernaut? He can and he has. Thor has been shown to rival the Juggernaut in strength. In fact if it's strength vs. strength and no invulnerability enchantment, Thor has taken the advantage.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor7.jpgNow you're just being silly. Own Thor in strength? You don't even think they are in the same league, even though beings like the Juggernaut and Sentry have stalemated him?
Oh, and Onslaught Hulk is basically the Banner less Hulk incarnation. The Hulk without the restrictions of Bruce Banner. The same Hulk Thor was going toe to toe with and knocked on his ass in the end.
He has beaten him. And a superior version of the Hulk does not mean he would beat Thor. If that was the case Banner less Hulk would stomp Thor.
I am going based on how they fight in comics and who it favors, Hulk.
I am talking about later in the fight when Thor tossed his hammer away just because the Hulk said he needed it. Thor was outsmarted by retard Hulk.
We have seen Thor go all out before on Hulk. He wasn't restraining himself in ih 440.
In the reigning that was King Thor. He didn't defeat him with a lightning bolt. He had him at bay and then Hulk recovered. If that's a victory then the Hulk beat him in the same exact issue.
WW Hulk took him on easily with the enchantment intact.
You can't even prove Thor can beat a weaker, dumber Hulk. It's only logical to assume WW Hulk beats him based on the fact Thor can't beat any Hulk.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYes, this is about as close as it gets to Thor admitting inferiority to anyone. Hulk is stronger. He has proven it before and Thor relies on his hammer as the equalizer. Without it he gets bloodied up.
Cool."Hulk [b]may
well be stronger than Thor".I highlighted the key word.
And like I said, he was intoxicated by the battle. The moment any direct harm came to any innocent bystanders, Thor tried to take action, as shown by your own scan.
Him not telling people dumb enough to run away while they watch him fight the Hulk is not an indication, of Thor being completely oblivious to human danger. He truly does get intoxicated by battle but he still cares. That's evident by your own scan. Hell, Thor cares about the Hulk. He has never wanted to actually kill him but simply to stop him.
And how many times has Thor said his own strength is without limit? His shocked that the Hulk keeps getting back up and getting stronger. So what?
Hulk himself has displayed doubt as to who was superior.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight4.jpg
He has never managed to beat Thor much to his frustration.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight19.jpg
Hell, Hulk has shown at least some measure of fear of Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthorfight.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorHoldsBackHulk2.jpgAnd Thor has stalemated Hulk for hours. Clearly Hulk despite his amping has never managed to get stronger than Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/HulkThorEqual.jpg
That is the worst damage the Hulk has ever done to Thor. Hell, that's more damage done to Thor than by Mangog or the Destroyer to Thor's face. I can't think of any other instance that Thor has been bruised like that off the top of my head.
Impressive no doubt, but the Hulk continuously wailed on Thor's face (Thor would do a have done worse if he fought him with such a fury.). Unfortunately, superficial wounds to Thor with his Asgardian nature mean absolute shit. This guy keeps on fighting and defeats Absorbing Man when he has every bone in his ribcage broken. He can keep on fighting even when he has every bone in his body broken, and he was in constant agony. A drop of blood, and a bruised lip and eye isn't anything that will slow down Thor. You might as well post the scan of Thor blooding up Hulk with a blow.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor2fight7.jpghttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor6fight12.jpg
If Thor continuously pounds on Hulk, the result would be worse.
Thor has the only clear win over the Hulk. This is 616 Savage Hulk and Thing, until Thor went back and erased this time line. Doesn't hold as much merit as it was off panel, but it's pretty clear it was a hand to hand fight between the Thing, Hulk and Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsHulkandThing1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsHulkandThing2.jpgThor's faced an incarnation at least on Green Scar's level. Hell, he was definitely more impressive in my opinion, and held his own just fine.
Hulk has never managed to out brawl Thor no matter the incarnation. I hope Thor and Green Scar could meet, so that Thor can once against just as easily hold his own. [/B]
Yes, but my point was unless they were in direct path of anything Thor wasn't aware of it. he was lost in the moment of the battle. This is just what I said. You were wrong again.
It depends on the level of anger and the situation. Thor has never bested Hulk and has fought him for that long which hurts his case more than anything that he won't fight intelligently against the Hulk.
The thing is Hulk's strength is without limit while Thor's isn't. 馃槀
Why would I post any scans of the Hulk bleeding? Healing factor. He was fine after their fight while Thor was shamed, bloodied, and remorseful of his actions. This Hulk wasn't in his proper state of mind. What's Thor's excuse?
That's King Thor and isn't canon.
Thor would hold his own, but in the end he'd lose to a pissed off/motivated WW Hulk.
Originally posted by The PictI can't see how since they have fought multiple times when the Hulk was much weaker and it didn't happen.
Not to be sniping but also based on history it's possible for WWH to burn out while fighting a being rivaling his power, like what happened against Sentry. I could definitely see that happening in a fight between Thor and WWH. That being said Team One still take it.
