The Maestro vs Juggernaut and WWHulk

Started by Ptr_Grifin8 pages

It is more impressive that Thor's Godblast pushed him back after stopping him. War only stopped him.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It is more impressive that Thor's Godblast pushed him back after stopping him. War only stopped him.
No, I think war actually stopping him cold and having him crap his pants is more impressive than driving him back.

Cain doesn't crap, so yeah, that's moot.

And you honestly think that War stopping him, then sneaking a tentacle behind him to throw him, thanks to a huge upgrade I might add.

Is more impressive than Thor using his own power to stop him, then push him back.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cain doesn't crap, so yeah, that's moot.

And you honestly think that War stopping him, then sneaking a tentacle behind him to throw him, thanks to a huge upgrade I might add.

Is more impressive than Thor using his own power to stop him, then push him back.

I think stopping him dead in his tracks is. Thor never stopped him while war did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I think war actually stopping him cold and having him crap his pants is more impressive than driving him back.

You do realize that for Cain to be pushed backward from a forward charge, he would have to be stopped first, right? So just being stopped is not as impressive as being pushed back.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You do realize that for Cain to be pushed backward from a forward charge, he would have to be stopped first, right? So just being stopped is not as impressive as being pushed back.
He wasn't stopped he was pushed back and Juggs was going to eventually win that struggle of momentum while War stopped him cold.

You really don't know the basic laws of physics. He was moving forward, and for him to be pushed back, he first had to be stopped.

If you throw a ball straight up in air, it is going to first stop, then come back down.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You really don't know the basic laws of physics. He was moving forward, and for him to be pushed back, he first had to be stopped.

If you throw a ball straight up in air, it is going to first stop, then come back down.

This was a blast which redirected his momentum. Juggs was eventually going to get it back and was never stopped. If he had been stopped then Thor could have kept blasting him way back.

Wow, really? You can't redirect momentum in the opposite direction without stopping the object. If he were to litearly curve his path then he could redirect him, but he would not be pushed backward.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Wow, really? You can't redirect momentum in the opposite direction without stopping the object. If he were to litearly curve his path then he could redirect him, but he would not be pushed backward.
If juggs doesn't have any momentum then he can be blasted backwards like anyone else. He still had momentum going for him and was never stopped dead in his tracks.

He can dig in like a football player who was being pushed back and regain his footing then push forward. Thor's Godblast was more impressive than War. But like Thor's Godblast, War didn't put a scratch on Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
He can dig in like a football player who was being pushed back and regain his footing then push forward. Thor's Godblast was more impressive than War. But like Thor's Godblast, War didn't put a scratch on Juggernaut.
Once his momentum is stopped he was screwed. His momentum was never fully stopped against Thor. War was about to cut his head off and even said so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Once his momentum is stopped he was screwed. His momentum was never fully stopped against Thor. War was about to cut his head off and even said so.

Thor fully stopped him and pushed him the other direction. War wasn't going to cut off his head. Just because he said so does not mean he can. He had the sword the whole fight, yet there wasn't the tiniest scratch on Juggernaut.

What does his momentum have to do with his invulnerability? Just because you stopped his forward moment doesnt mean that you can injure him.

Originally posted by carver9
What does his momentum have to do with his invulnerability? Just because you stopped his forward moment doesnt mean that you can injure him.
DUDE stop arguing with this FOOL.. 😱

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Thor fully stopped him and pushed him the other direction. War wasn't going to cut off his head. Just because he said so does not mean he can. He had the sword the whole fight, yet there wasn't the tiniest scratch on Juggernaut.
Because he hadn't gotten a chance to do so.
Originally posted by carver9
What does his momentum have to do with his invulnerability? Just because you stopped his forward moment doesnt mean that you can injure him.
Becuase if you can overcome one enchantment one not another? The writer definitely got the point across that war above juggs.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
DUDE stop arguing with this FOOL.. 😱
My opinions are backed by the comic and common sense.

No, your opinions are backed by Quanchi sense, which is not accepted here on KMC, it wasn't accepted on Hero Chat either, but you know that already don't you?

Originally posted by KingD19
No, your opinions are backed by Quanchi sense, which is not accepted here on KMC, it wasn't accepted on Hero Chat either, but you know that already don't you?
Ah, old herochat. How is the old craphole since I have turned my back to it? I bet they are still talking about me.

If you can overcome one enchantment why not another? I'm curious. Enlighten me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he hadn't gotten a chance to do so. Becuase if you can overcome one enchantment one not another? The writer definitely got the point across that war above juggs. My opinions are backed by the comic and common sense.

That doesnt make sense. Thor hammer was slowing juggernaut forward momentum down when he was getting hit by the god blast but the god blast still didnt even tickle the juggernaut. 😕

Just because you stopped his forward moment doesnt mean you can breach his invulnerability.

It's funny, they actually made a thread about you recently.

Well, truth be told, he didn't really overcome the 1st enchantment. He stopped him from moving after a while, then he flipped him, if he hadn't done that, Juggernaut would've started pushing again.

As for overcoming the invulnerability and force field, no one has ever done so, the closest would be Thor shutting down Cain's invulnerability and force field for 60 seconds. During that time Cain was still whooping his ass. And when D'spayre fed on Cain's energy, then filleted him down to a glowing red skeleton. Cain kept going with no problems.