Colossus VS Iron man

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Colossus can match Gladiator in a slugfest I don't see Tony lasting very long.

Bullshit.

Tony's held his own against Immortal Hercules, has gone toe to toe and even taken the advantage over Namor (Under Water but he used he radiated heat when he defeated Namor.), Iron Man's beaten the Hulk in a slug fest, stalemated the Silver Surfer etc (Silver Surfer was holding back his energy attacks.). Dude's was even gaining ground on Count Nefaria after he stomped the Avengers, by using the maximum power trick.

This was back in the original Red/Gold Armor.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What issue did he go H2H with WWHulk again?

The first issue man. It wasn't until after the Hulk was incinerated by the missiles that the fight turned to Hulk's favour. Was evenly matched before hand. But while he was being burned he thought of his wife that was killed and I imagine his strength increased.

Oh, the fight in issue #1. That wasn't a pure H2H fight I recall. I think he used some other abilities like flight in that one or some sh!t. I also recall that armor getting ripped up after that. Well Tony may win in that armor but his standard armor isn't going to be good enough.

This would be a good fight.
Colossus is a 100+ since Marvel declared he's not a teenager anymore.

Tony would have his hands full and I still say Colossus wins 8/10 depending on the writer.

Love the post with Big C KO'ing the Hulk. I read that issue and it rocked.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh, the fight in issue #1. That wasn't a pure H2H fight I recall. I think he used some other abilities like flight in that one or some sh!t. I also recall that armor getting ripped up after that. Well Tony may win in that armor but his standard armor isn't going to be good enough.

Hulk was in the air too,man. Until the Spin tech f*cked up (which is explained in the Avengers: The Initiative if you haven't read it) Tony had the fight pretty much in his favour. They met in the air but IM was the first up, he knocked Hulk around but it all went to shit after the missiles failed to take out WWH.

Iron Man's new Hulkbuster armor would shit stomp Colossus.

Colossus

actualy depends wich version o colosus

if its classic colosus (the one Jug said he can crush like a steel safe 😄) then he get stomped

but upgraded colosus stomps

Classic Colossus got props from Juggernaut, held his own against Gladiator, was going head up with Tanaraq backed Sasquatch, etc...

Originally posted by Galan007
[b]WWH vs. The Hulk Buster:

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Hulk jumped out of the ship, but Iron Man had tons of thrust and way more momentum. He also mixed in energy blasts, and increased his punching power by turning on boosters in his gauntlets. Hulk also couldn't deliver the full strength of his blows since he had nothing to brace himself with. In a straight h2h fight, as strong as this armor is, I say Colossus wins. He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man's new Hulkbuster armor would shit stomp Colossus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk does look out of it.

Well, Colossus did pretty well against Classic Juggernaut in some of their fights so isn't that bad of a showing.

Colossus probably rivals his strength at base (If we use the stupid handbook rankings.), while having better hand to hand skills, and seemed to be faster. Used effectively and that can result in a knock out early into a fight with Savage Hulk.

Except the second Colossus got close, Hulk's eyes snapped open and he immediately stomped Colossus. Hulk's played possum before. Just because he can smash, doesn't mean he doesn't use strategy, even against people who don't pose much of a threat. Besides, Hulk didn't revert to Banner. As far as I know, except for Banner-Less Hulk, if Hulk were KO'd, he "Banner-Out".

Anyway, thinking it over again, I'd have to say Iron Man probably does win. Seeing that WWHulk scan reminded me of just how powerful the Hulkbuster armor was. Considering WWHulk turned Colossus into a useless shiny pile of sh*t, for the Hulkbuster to have stood against WWHulk for as long as it did clearly puts it above Colossus as well.

Before, I was thinking about how badly She-Hulk had beat on Iron Man, but that was the standard suit, and I doubt Tony was really trying to do much harm.

As for those scans where Tony has to go all-out to KO Hulk, that seems to be what Marvel figured around that time. Remember those strength charts where Iron Man is at the top saying something like "If I focus all my energy, I can reach this level... for about ten seconds" or something like that?

So I think standard Iron Man probably takes at least a majority against Colossus, and Hulkbuster Iron Man takes it 10/10. Not only is the Hulkbuster armor way more powerful than Colossus, Tony is also leagues higher in intelligence, and has many more years of experience, including with the Avengers. H2H, I think Colossus is likely a better fighter. But overall, Iron Man outclasses him with intelligence, strategy, and all the weapons at his disposal.

Plus the Hulkbuster armor is powerful as all Hell.

Originally posted by KingD19
He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.

Not really, when you think about it.

Iron Man was punching WWHulk all over the place, and it looked like a real fight. Colossus, though, was really just in the mix of X-Men. After WWHulk had cleared out some lesser mutants and Colossus took a shot, and it was just the two of them, WWHulk took the time to trash talk and cripple Colossus extremely easily. All in all, Colossus really didn't do well at all. Some shots you can see him punching Hulk with absolutely no effect. But as soon as he got in a good shot on Hulk, Hulk broke both his arms.

Iron Man doesn't get any of the Hulkbuster's perks though. Like enhancing it's punching power with thrusters, or hitting Colossus with the energy blasts he used on Hulk. I'm not sure he can ko Colossus without those thrusters engaged.

Originally posted by KingD19
Iron Man doesn't get any of the Hulkbuster's perks though. Like enhancing it's punching power with thrusters, or hitting Colossus with the energy blasts he used on Hulk. I'm not sure he can ko Colossus without those thrusters engaged.

Sure, maybe you want to just turn off his armor? 😉

Look, if we disabled the thrusters for this fight, we would have to disable the other machinery too. It's not the only thing that enhances his striking power. Hell I'm pretty sure he can't operate that hulkbuster w/o extremis... let's take away extremis then! You see? 😛

I agree that energy blasts can't be used though.

Okay, only melee allowed. Still. He should be allowed to do whatever he can with his armor. If that includes thruster-blasting his punches, so be it.

And those punches are what sends Colossus to La La land.

Originally posted by KingD19
Hulk jumped out of the ship, but Iron Man had tons of thrust and way more momentum. He also mixed in energy blasts, and increased his punching power by turning on boosters in his gauntlets. Hulk also couldn't deliver the full strength of his blows since he had nothing to brace himself with. In a straight h2h fight, as strong as this armor is, I say Colossus wins. He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.

Originally posted by Master Court
Except the second Colossus got close, Hulk's eyes snapped open and he immediately stomped Colossus. Hulk's played possum before. Just because he can smash, doesn't mean he doesn't use strategy, even against people who don't pose much of a threat. Besides, Hulk didn't revert to Banner. As far as I know, except for Banner-Less Hulk, if Hulk were KO'd, he "Banner-Out".

Anyway, thinking it over again, I'd have to say Iron Man probably does win. Seeing that WWHulk scan reminded me of just how powerful the Hulkbuster armor was. Considering WWHulk turned Colossus into a useless shiny pile of sh*t, for the Hulkbuster to have stood against WWHulk for as long as it did clearly puts it above Colossus as well.

Before, I was thinking about how badly She-Hulk had beat on Iron Man, but that was the standard suit, and I doubt Tony was really trying to do much harm.

As for those scans where Tony has to go all-out to KO Hulk, that seems to be what Marvel figured around that time. Remember those strength charts where Iron Man is at the top saying something like "If I focus all my energy, I can reach this level... for about ten seconds" or something like that?

So I think standard Iron Man probably takes at least a majority against Colossus, and Hulkbuster Iron Man takes it 10/10. Not only is the Hulkbuster armor way more powerful than Colossus, Tony is also leagues higher in intelligence, and has many more years of experience, including with the Avengers. H2H, I think Colossus is likely a better fighter. But overall, Iron Man outclasses him with intelligence, strategy, and all the weapons at his disposal.

Plus the Hulkbuster armor is powerful as all Hell.

You could interpret it that way. I'm just saying that Colossus is pretty strong and basically in Savage Hulk's Class at his base. Throw in superior fighting skills and speed, and it's not far fetched that he momentarily knocked him out. Writers tend to use the entire his relative to his opponent bullshit. Colossus clearly wasn't portrayed as being able to go blow for blow from what I recall.

Yea Classic Iron Man fluctuated, "a lot" but he was a beast at times. He has stalemated and even took the advantage over Namor underwater, stalemated Silver Surfer, held his own against Hercules, temporarily out slugged Count Nefaria, and other shit. The only real person who was clearly was portrayed above him on a consistent level would have been Thor.

Throw in his tricks and bullshit (He always managed to pull something out of his ass when needed.), and he was the most formidable Avenger next to Thor on a general basis. Anyone who dismisses him here easily, based on some of his showing don't know their shit.

Just so you know, Iron Man has one shotted Savage She-Hulk once.

In the new Hulkbuster Armor? Tony would shit stomp Colossus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just so you know, Iron Man has one shotted Savage She-Hulk once.

Already mentioned that.

Originally posted by Galan007
One-shots an enraged She-Hulk: