Originally posted by SoulDevourer
k thxbut CN still stops Thors hammer right? (only other one to do it was Supe in the crossover or somethin)
and even Thor admit CN is stronger (when CN toss the skycraper at him)
Yea he stops his hammer. Impressive feat.
Meh, Thor's lifted much more weight effortlessly, so I don't see why he would be so impressed but whatever.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
thor always gets manhandle when facing guys with High durability...like Mangog, Nefaria, 8th day juggernaut, HJ.....not necessarily with stronger guys like hulk, when facing hulk thor has an durability advantage plus his hamer..
Bullshit.
Thor doesn't always get manhandled by anyone with superior durability.
Mangog is above Top Tier in strength and durability. That guy is ridiculous. He'd beat anyone below Trans in a brawl. Also a pissed of Thor has done extremely well against. Even dropped him for a few pages. Impressive when n that same issue he shrugged off a beam from the Colonizers that can rip through the core of Suns etc. without even slowing down. Their most powerful weapon, and looking at their tech with which they've conquered Galaxies it's pretty uber for Thor to drop him.
Thor was actually doing pretty well against 8th day Juggernaut considering the amp. He was holding his own, until the very end when Juggernaut got the advantage.
Nefaria never manhandled Thor. Shit, Thor's blows seemed to effect Nefaria more than vise versa.
Who's "HJ"?
When has Hulk ever surpassed Thor in strength in their fights?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bullshit.Who's "HJ"?
When has Hulk ever surpassed Thor in strength in their fights?
its weird you call bullshit a TRUE FACT...
lets see the High durability guys that have manhandle thor
Destroyer
Thano
Mangog
8th Juggernaut
kurse
Nefaria
HJ(Harald Jaekelsson)
CNefaria
and you are daydreaming if you think Thor is as strong as Hulk 😆
Originally posted by nicamarvin
its weird you call bullshit a TRUE FACT...lets see the High durability guys that have manhandle thor
Destroyer
Thano
Mangog
8th Juggernaut
kurse
Nefaria
HJ(Harald Jaekelsson)
CNefariaand you are daydreaming if you think Thor is as strong as Hulk 😆
It is bullshit, because when Thor encounters piers, he holds his own.
You don't just list extremely durable characters, you are listing characters above Top Tier. They'd manhandle Hulk or Superman as well.
Destroyer - Above Top Tier physically without a doubt. Wreck basically anyone in Top Tier in a brawl. Thor though has done extremely well against him in most of their more recent battles.
Thanos - Seriously? His also above Top Tier easily. Thor's done a hell of a lot better against Thanos than even guys like Drax, Silver Surfer etc. They've fought like what, 4 times? One time Thor stalemated him. Second time he was going toe to toe with Thanos (Albeit received help from Thing but how much can he do really? He was smacked away easily.). Thanos eventually knocked out Thing, and I believe stunned Thor with his energy attacks as I recall. Third Time, Thor had the Power Gem, so that had circumstances. The Fourth time it was Thanos (Later retconned to a high powered clone.) and the dude had enough power to wreck Universes because of Tarene.
Mangog - Really? Classic Mangog, would beat Hulk and Superman at the same time as if they were his step children in a brawl.
8th Day Juggernaut - Thor held his own to an extent, but Juggernaut had the advantage in the end. Juggernaut has high end Top Tier strength and above Top Tier durability. According to Thor his power was amped a hundred fold. What do you expects going to happen if they go toe to toe? Thor still did pretty good considering.
Kurse - Again someone above Top Tier. Beyonder amped his strength to 4 times Thor's. What the hell do you expect to happen?
Count Nefaria - Never manhandled Thor. As a matter of fact, Thor's attacks were knocking him for a loop.
Harald - The Viking from the mini, who was amped by the power of the Runes? This guy is well beyond Top Tier. Shit, Strange was shitting himself.
Notice how you're listing beings that would defeat anyone else in that class in a brawl, such as Silver Surfer, Superman or Hulk? So I'm guessing they all suck against high durable beings as well? These beings are simply beings in another class physically. It's no shame that Thor cannot defeat them. Whenever he faces anyone in his class he easily holds his own. Do you even have a point with any of this?
Oh I'm day dreaming? Then how about you show me an instance where Hulk has defeated Thor, because all of their brawls have been stalemates. Doesn't really support your notion of "Hulk > Thor" does it?
I was just saying how hard of a time thor has with guys with High durability......but Hulk is capable of surpacing this guys on strenght BUT thor is always able to hurt him because hulks low durability...
how about wen Hulk was young maestro and thor was warrior madness?anyways hulk is and will always be stronger than thor
Originally posted by nicamarvin
I was just saying how hard of a time thor has with guys with High durability......but Hulk is capable of surpacing this guys on strenght BUT thor is always able to hurt him because hulks low durability...
Any one Top Tier or below would lose to these guys in a brawl without a doubt (Barring Count Nefaria.).
Anyone of those guys would beat Hulk down in a brawl. Especially guys like Thanos, Mangog, Harald etc. They'd beat him to a pulp.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
how about wen Hulk was young maestro and thor was warrior madness?
Ignoring the fact that Berserker Rage and Warrior Madness was somewhat confused in that issue, that was during the time period of the World Engine where Thor's powers were fluctuating. Hell, he was powerless before he fought Hulk, and he stomped his hammer into the ground once and showed some lightning. Who knows what level of strength he was at. A fraction? Half? His power fluctuated continuously during his shirtless period. So that doesn't prove anything. And the Hulk wasn't shown to be superior in that instance either way.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
anyways hulk is and will always be stronger than thor
Lol. This isn't how strong you want Hulk to be but how strong Hulk has actually been shown, and his never defeated Thor. Shit, Thor was stalemating him for hours on end in strength without showing a sign of tiring.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/932038-0_pr_super.jpg
Just dropped in to see what condition your conditions was in, or so.
Oh and Surtur should win this one.
Nevermind ^^.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/932038-0_pr_super.jpgJust dropped in to see what condition your conditions was in, or so.
Oh and Surtur should win this one.
Nevermind ^^.
The first panel in that scan was a flash back to his original fight with the Avengers, was it not? Which means it's obvious bullshit. I posted the scans of their entire fight. Every time threw Mjolnir at him, he was knocked for a loop.
The guy is just self-delusional.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The first panel in that scan was a flash back to his original fight with the Avengers, was it not? Which means it's obvious bullshit. I posted the scans of their entire fight. Every time threw Mjolnir at him, he was knocked for a loop.The guy is just self-delusional.
We can't say that for sure, can we? Thors hammerthorw ain't always that powerful.
http://www.leaderslair.com/avengers/avengers166.jpg (copy and paste)
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
We can't say that for sure, can we? Thors hammerthorw ain't always that powerful.http://www.leaderslair.com/avengers/avengers166.jpg (copy and paste)
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Yes we can. I posted the entire fight. Every time Thor threw the hammer at him, he sent him for a loop.
The first scan is a comic book cover. So fail.
The second scan is when a severely weakened Thor threw his hammer and Juggernaut's Force Field slowed down it's momentum. So yea...
The third scan is an ad from the old Avenger's books. I lol'd at it.
It's true, Thor's hammer throws depend how much force he puts behind them. I mean a hammer toss sent Galactus for a loop once, after he shrugged off an attack from Ego that destroyed System's worth of planets without any harm. Ego's attack didn't hurt him at all, while Thor's toss did.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerthats not a fact....no matter how strong hulk gets he always gets hurt, if his durability was as his strenght his skin would never brake, his skin would be just like juggernaut´s skin but its not, he always gets hurt. so no his durability does not grows with his strenght
low durablity?hulks durablity depend if hes pissed or not 🙄 it got no uper limit (jus like his strenght)
It all depends on what version of the Hulk. Before WWH the more he fights the more he gets pissed, faster, stronger and his HF speeds up. WWH not so much....he is street smart and pretty much at his peak. Same goes for food and sleep etc....that depends on the version and whos writing.
Anyways off topic.
Originally posted by nicamarvinthats not a fact....no matter how strong hulk gets he always gets hurt, if his durability was as his strenght his skin would never brake, his skin would be just like juggernaut´s skin but its not, he always gets hurt. so no his durability does not grows with his strenght
u were sayin? 🙄
Hulk without pis means when he get pissed ALL his stats go up, not just strenght 🙂
if hulk was in a time loop where he needed to fight for all etenity he could grow as strong as Galactus BUT he will eventually die at some point as he needs rest, food, watter, his body needs to rest toonot if he get angrier & angrier then his HF also go up, he coud keep this up 4ever
Originally posted by nicamarvinu mean imortal like he dont age? i dunno but if his HF has no uper limit then what does dat mean?
sorry he is not inmortal like Juggernaut even if you wish him to be 😆not amount of Wishing can change that.. 😮💨
btw if Cytoraks destroyed then what happens to Jugs imortality? 😄
Originally posted by nicamarvin
thats not a fact....no matter how strong hulk gets he always gets hurt, if his durability was as his strenght his skin would never brake, his skin would be just like juggernaut´s skin but its not, he always gets hurt. so no his durability does not grows with his strenght
think it like this way: if hulk was in a time loop where he needed to fight for all etenity he could grow as strong as Galactus BUT he will eventually die at some point as he needs rest, food, watter, his body needs to rest too
First and foremost, his durability depends on the writer (Just as it does for Cain. Just so you know I can think of 4 different instances off the top of my head where Juggernaut has shown he was apparently affected by physical damage.), as some times bullet's bounce off of him and some times they don't. It also depends on the incarnation as Banner less Hulk was constantly portrayed with high durability even in recent comics. As well, in his most recent comics, his been written as less durable and having a ridiculous healing factor. When he first fought Logan, not even Logan could cut him.
You are severely underestimating his endurance. I'm pretty sure the Hulk has gone for days if not weeks without sustenance. And his endurance is relative to his level of strength. The angrier he gets, the less rest he would need and so on.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusdo you think he could last for decades without rest? 😕
The angrier he gets, the less rest he would need and so on.
and whe I was saying inmortal I was thinking on on Juggernaut's kind of inmortality, heck even galactus can die but he is an inmortal for all purposes just like juggernaut(except Juggs dont feel hunger) and Hulk is not.. 😮💨
Originally posted by nicamarvin
do you think he could last for decades without rest? 😕and whe I was saying inmortal I was thinking on on Juggernaut's kind of inmortality, heck even galactus can die but he is an inmortal for all purposes just like juggernaut(except Juggs dont feel hunger) and Hulk is not.. 😮💨
Like I said, his endurance is relative to his anger.
Hulk doesn't stop aging apparently, but that depends on the writer. I don't even know what the current take on with Hulk and old age is.
