Destroyer Armor Vs. Doomsday

Originally posted by Naija boy
I never claimed they werent powerful.

Oh and in regards to the example, ill ask u the same thing, do u think that the each of the JLA members that fought the probes fought them to the best of their abilities in ways similar to how supes fought them the second time? If not then the konvikt example is pretty valid since i was using it to illustrate the same idea (not fighting to the best of their abilties).

you suggested that because heat vision and freeze breath was capable of downing imperiex probes that they weren't as tough as the entropy armour, when it was stated that it was a probe's shell used in the construction of it. or did i misunderstand?

the JLA that fought the probes was more powerful than the one that fought konvikt, first of all. and second, yes. that's why people like diana and clark were hacking off limbs left and right, and why aquaman was willing to sacrifice himself to save atlantis. clark was just smart enough to cauterise the wounds after doing so.

Originally posted by Naija boy
lulz, Care to elaborate? or u think the copout facepalm will suffice? 🙄

anyhow, when you used ABC logic to compare konvikt to the imperiex probes, the proverbial 'light switch' flicked on, and i realized the aforementioned. so thanks!

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Originally posted by -Pr-
you suggested that because heat vision and freeze breath was capable of downing imperiex probes that they weren't as tough as the entropy armour, when it was stated that it was a probe's shell used in the construction of it. or did i misunderstand?

the JLA that fought the probes was more powerful than the one that fought konvikt, first of all. and second, yes. that's why people like diana and clark were hacking off limbs left and right, and why aquaman was willing to sacrifice himself to save atlantis. clark was just smart enough to cauterise the wounds after doing so.

I suggested that using HV,freezebreath, and physically dominating them indicated that they werent as tough as the entropy armour. it wasnt just the focus on the freeze breath and HV but on superman being able to destroy it like that, regardless of the method used. ( im also pretty sure i remember the entropy aegis being having new gods tech as well which should differentiate it from the probes)

And im surprised u answered yes to the question. Diana didnt make use of her speed to the fullest. Jonn definitely didnt combine his multiple powers in similar ways to clark. Flash certainly wasnt using multiple IMPs etc. Hence the characters that fought the probe didnt at all fight to the best of their abilities and to then use that fight to imply that clark while angry or whatnot is more powerful than them all is faulty.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I suggested that using HV,freezebreath, and physically dominating them indicated that they werent as tough as the entropy armour. it wasnt just the focus on the freeze breath and HV but on superman being able to destroy it like that, regardless of the method used. ( im also pretty sure i remember the entropy aegis being having new gods tech as well which should differentiate it from the probes)

And im surprised u answered yes to the question. Diana didnt make use of her speed to the fullest. Jonn definitely didnt combine his multiple powers in similar ways to clark. Flash certainly wasnt using multiple IMPs etc. Hence the characters that fought the probe didnt at all fight to the best of their abilities and to then use that fight to imply that clark while angry or whatnot is more powerful than them all is faulty.

ah, ok. it was retro fitted with apokolyptan tech, yes, but it is stated that they used the shell of an imperiex probe. you think darkseid has access to tech that would be able to withstand his omega if he wanted to annihilate it from existence? the shell has to at least contribute to it's impressive durability, or else why use it at all?

diana had full armour and was using weaponry. when she struck down the imperiex probe that exploded, she was hit by the ensuing explosion. she didn't know that the self destruct was harmful, so her speed wouldn't have made a difference. how often does wally use IMP's? that's a forum tactic. j'onn was out in the first panel of the attack on the JLA. we don't know whether he used all his powers or not. he could have tried them all and still gotten smacked around the way pretty much every other hero on earth did. those probes were taking on teams of people including Zod's forces in pokolistan (sp?).

clark was stated to be operating on a higher level. the narrator says that after superman cuts loose, he starts wrecking probes. it's blatantly stated.

so it's not faulty, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
heh, "copout"... the arrogance of some people never ceases to amaze me. the facepalm was simply my way of saying, "i'm done, there's no use in continuing." why am i done, you ask? because no matter what facts are presented on doomsday's behalf, they will all be swiftly disregarded and/or enormously downplayed... but what's weird is that only the highest of high destroyer showings seem to be presented, for some reason. *ponders*

anyhow, when you used ABC logic to compare konvikt to the imperiex probes, the proverbial 'light switch' flicked on, and i realized the aforementioned. so thanks!

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lulz. u post a facepalm in a blatant attempt to ridicule my post and u have the audacity to talk about "arrogance"?....the hypocrisy of some people never ceases to amaze me. Further iwas not disregarding anything. I was debating the weight that ur so called "facts" held in determining the outcome of this match. It seems that u for some reason expected me to concede that doomsday wins immediately after u referenced some of his feats.......just no. Not only that, but all the feats of the destroyer i mentioned describe how it is consistently portrayed so the ur next accusation is false as well.

And it was probably because of ur ridiculous predetermined approach to the discussion that u somehow thought that using two similar situations to illustrate a general idea is equivalent to ABC logic. That is just inane.

And if u no longer have interest in the discussion good for u.........just dont attempt to characterize it as anything but that and then call into question the validity of anothers argument.
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Originally posted by -Pr-
ah, ok. it was retro fitted with apokolyptan tech, yes, but it is stated that they used the shell of an imperiex probe. you think darkseid has access to tech that would be able to withstand his omega if he wanted to annihilate it from existence? the shell has to at least contribute to it's impressive durability, or else why use it at all?

diana had full armour and was using weaponry. when she struck down the imperiex probe that exploded, she was hit by the ensuing explosion. she didn't know that the self destruct was harmful, so her speed wouldn't have made a difference. how often does wally use IMP's? that's a forum tactic. j'onn was out in the first panel of the attack on the JLA. we don't know whether he used all his powers or not. he could have tried them all and still gotten smacked around the way pretty much every other hero on earth did. those probes were taking on teams of people including Zod's forces in pokolistan (sp?).

clark was stated to be operating on a higher level. the narrator says that after superman cuts loose, he starts wrecking probes. it's blatantly stated.

so it's not faulty, imo.

Originally posted by Naija boy
lulz. u post a facepalm in a blatant attempt to ridicule my post and u have the audacity to talk about "arrogance"?....the hypocrisy of some people never ceases to amaze me. Further iwas not disregarding anything. I was debating the weight that ur so called "facts" held in determining the outcome of this match. It seems that u for some reason expected me to concede that doomsday wins immediately after u referenced some of his feats.......just no. Not only that, but all the feats of the destroyer i mentioned describe how it is consistently portrayed so the ur next accusation is false as well.

And it was probably because of ur ridiculous predetermined approach to the discussion that u somehow thought that using two similar situations to illustrate a general idea is equivalent to ABC logic. That is just inane.

And if u no longer have interest in the discussion good for u.........just dont attempt to characterize it as anything but that and then call into question the validity of anothers argument.
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ohh and p.s. i never said doomsday would win. you may want to reread my posts again.

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Sad.

Originally posted by kgkg
Sad.

Why?

take one chill pill, and pass the rest down.

I think this would be a very good fight. I can't see either character necessarily being able to dominate the other.

So what Doomsday version is this?

the pre-kryptonian baby version.

What? You mean the most recent one?

Is the current version a baby?

define baby... mmm

Originally posted by Mindset
Is the current version a baby?

technically, he became doomsday after he was killed the first time right?

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but seriosly, i guess it's current version unless specified.

Isn't the most recent version of Doomsday the one that fought the Kryptonians and Superman?

that or josh walker "the fake" doomsday