I feel that Yuga being able to manipulate/transform into source energy on a whim has a lot to do with that being the source behind his power. It's much more plausible that you'd be able to manipulate something running through you than some unknown outside power that you've never been in contact with imo.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosiwith the exception of a few, the power of every single being in the DCU stems from the source. that said, i'm sure you can understand why it might be faulty to assume that's the only reason yuga was able to do what he did. especially when such was never even alluded to:
I feel that Yuga being able to manipulate/transform into source energy on a whim has a lot to do with that being the source behind his power. It's much more plausible that you'd be able to manipulate something running through you than some unknown outside power that you've never been in contact with imo.
and as you can see, even highfather [who has a stronger connection to the source than any other character i've seen] was shocked by yuga's feat.
Originally posted by guy222😂
Defalco's nonsense with Hyperspace was done because Thor was embarassed by the Celestials. Talk about vengeance on a highStupid ****er
Never been referenced again
I like Yuga, but he doesn't win here
regardless, unless that instance is specifically retconned, then it remains canon.
Yuga Khan is limited by the fact that he has few appearances but when he did show up he's been shown to be on a whole other level even when compared to skyfathers like Darkseid and Highfather. He's pretty much more powerful than all the other New Gods put together. It's a shame he hasn't appeared again, he was such an interesting concept. I still believe that a Celestial should win a majority but its not a stomp by any means.
Originally posted by Galan007
because the one time hyperspace energy was used against one, it was destroyed..?
What he meant was that how can this be common knowledge when it's only one appearance and only a handful of beings were present. This isn't common knowledge to the public or heroes/villains.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingmeh, i would rather not get into THAT argument. regardless, it doesn't need to be common knowledge for yuga to potentially transform into it. quite honestly, if yuga went into this battle knowing of the celestials' weakness to hyperspace, he could well take a solid majority. i would only count on him knowing the above, based on his 'cosmic senses' [the 'senses' which allowed him to know the specific energy the source itself resonates on, etc.]
What he meant was that how can this be common knowledge when it's only one appearance and only a handful of beings were present. This isn't common knowledge to the public or heroes/villains.
but as i said before, there is *obviously* no way of knowing whether or not yuga would be able to mimic hyperspace energy - which is why i would only give him a few wins out of ten.
Originally posted by Galan007
because the one time hyperspace energy was used against one, it was destroyed..?
.... that has absolutely nothing to do with my question. im talking about how the hell something that has been referenced only once and which hardly anyone even knows about can be seen as "common knowledge".
Originally posted by Galan007In other words, you really don't want to make it look like Yuga gets stomped.
meh, i would rather not get into THAT argument. regardless, it doesn't need to be common knowledge for yuga to potentially transform into it. quite honestly, if yuga went into this battle knowing of the celestials' weakness to hyperspace, he could well take a solid majority. i would only count on him knowing the above, based on his 'cosmic senses' [the 'senses' which allowed him to know the specific energy the source itself resonates on, etc.]but as i said before, there is *obviously* no way of knowing whether or not yuga would be able to mimic hyperspace energy - which is why i would only give him a few wins out of ten.
Hell, using your logic, we might as well put Surfer in there because he can make energies and has cosmic senses.
Also lol at a Celestial's weakness being common knowledge.
Originally posted by Naija boyexact same thing WWK said. read above.
.... that has absolutely nothing to do with my question. im talking about how the hell something that has been referenced only once and which hardly anyone even knows about can be seen as "common knowledge".
Originally posted by Blanketthe notion that yuga could take a few wins, IF he were able to utilize a celestial's weakness, is hardly such an attempt.
In other words, you really don't want to make it look like Yuga gets stomped.Hell, using your logic, we might as well put Surfer in there because he can make energies and has cosmic senses.
Also lol at a Celestial's weakness being common knowledge.
yuga has shown the ability to transform into the same energy as the source. thus, the assumption that he might also be able to transform into hyperspace energy [in a neutral universe] is perfectly logical, based on previously established feats.
read above.
Originally posted by Blanketwhat else is there to base cross-company battles on, dude?
It is if you're arguing based off a shit load of assumptions.
for instance, surfer has never made kryptonite - but based on his feats, most people assume he would be able to in a neutral universe.
that said, yuga having the potential [mind you i have not once claimed this a certainty] to transform into hyperspace energy is a perfectly logical and justified point, based on his feats.
Originally posted by Galan007The difference between Surfer/Superman and Yuga/Celestials is that Superman's weakness is common knowledge and Surfer actually uses a lot of matter manipulation. Plus people like to bring up the Gladiator instance... etc.
what else is there to base forum battles on, dude?for instance, surfer has never made kryptonite, but most people assume he would be able to in a neutral universe, based on previously established feats.
that said, yuga having the potential [mind you i have not once claimed this a certainty] to transform into hyperspace energy is a perfectly logical and justified point, based on his feats.
What feats?
The one time he was next to the Source's energies and replicated it? That probably means he'll go out of his way to create a never talked about or used energy to combat a Celestial.
Like I said, using your logic, we achieve the same result with Surfer in this thread as with Yuga.
