Originally posted by manx422We never saw him physically take on any team like this in a physical confrontation. We saw Batman through a guy armed with radion pull off fatally wounding Darkseid. This team pounds on Darkseid as we can only speculate about his formidability in fc.
How?
this DS at his best FC version
OS ftw
Originally posted by quanchi112
We never saw him physically take on any team like this in a physical confrontation. We saw Batman through a guy armed with radion pull off fatally wounding Darkseid. This team pounds on Darkseid as we can only speculate about his formidability in fc.
Originally posted by manx422Tell that to Superman or Thor. Thor can deflect it and I bet Supes or the Surfer can as Supes has already done so to the omega effect.
Nothing is save them from OS
Originally posted by xJLxKingBased on what? Are you ignoring Darkseid's history against Superman.
DS in a stomp! Team can't do anything against him.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThat isn't a viable option.
Actually without plot devices like the Radion Bullet and the Miracle Machine DS would have consumed all of reality. A physical fight was out of the question, DS wins this but not by lifting a finger or OSing anyone, he just waits for his soul to collapse and swallow all reality including the team.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually without plot devices like the Radion Bullet and the Miracle Machine DS would have consumed all of reality. A physical fight was out of the question, DS wins this but not by lifting a finger or OSing anyone, he just waits for his soul to collapse and swallow all reality including the team.
The multiverse, not all of reality.
Radion bullet isn't any more a plot device than kryptonite.
Originally posted by -Pr-Here's the problem I have with this. We really don't know how Darkseid would fare here as he showed us nothing combat wise of what he can even do to them.
the team doesn't have a radion gun or a miracle machine. without either of those, there's not a lot they can do to FC DS...
Originally posted by Omega VisionSo do all of his other feats/fights like countdown, owaw, and apokolips now.
Darkseid wasn't affected by the Crisis so all of his PC feats stand. Given that a full powered DS's only real obstacle here is Black Adam (if its WW3 BA) and he goes down easy.Now FC DS simply isn't defined well, he could be in theory either much stronger or much weaker than PC DS, we don't know.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We simply don't know how to debate Ds so either we revert back to classic levels or we can't debate him as we have no idea what he can do. If his power level was well beyond them in combat we still don't know how much.
the fact that his fat ass was destroying the multiverse is a fair idea. he'd win by doing just that. it would take a while, but it counts as a win.
Originally posted by -Pr-Wasn't it due to the ale? If Thor godblasts Darkseid what happens? If Superman lays a hurtin on him what happens?
the fact that his fat ass was destroying the multiverse is a fair idea. he'd win by doing just that. it would take a while, but it counts as a win.
Too many things we don't know to properly debate fc Darkseid outside a whole lot of speculation.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So do all of his other feats/fights like countdown, owaw, and apokolips now.