Originally posted by quanchi112
Wasn't it due to the ale? If Thor godblasts Darkseid what happens? If Superman lays a hurtin on him what happens?Too many things we don't know to properly debate fc Darkseid outside a whole lot of speculation.
they can't touch him. he has no corporeal form. that's stated in the comics. that's why he took a host.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, because he is dying and dragging everything else with him. I still see it as unfair to debate for or against fc darkseid as there are too many unknown variables.
i don't think there are that many unknown variables. is the thread fair? no.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
we know darkseid wasn't just intangible. so tell me: how would thor have hurt FC darkseid?
Originally posted by -Pr-
we know darkseid wasn't just intangible. so tell me: how would thor have hurt FC darkseid?
Darkseid must've been something, otherwise Superman couldn't have beepbox'd him to death. This would make it all the easier for Thor to absorb him. Thor, whose godblast has mended rifts in time/space, absorbed and/or attacked energy beings and so on.
It won't beat Darkseid, but Thor can definitely affect his colour-form.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Darkseid must've been something, otherwise Superman couldn't have beepbox'd him to death. This would make it all the easier for Thor to absorb him. Thor, whose godblast has mended rifts in time/space, absorbed and/or attacked energy beings and so on.It won't beat Darkseid, but Thor can definitely affect his colour-form.
he'd taken a host and been shot by a radion bullet when superman beat him, hadn't he?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Host was killed by the racer wasn't it? Regardless, as long as there's a mind or a soul, Thor can affect it.
racer only killed him after he'd been shot with the bullet, iirc.
i dunno about that, tbh. not that thor can't affect it, but that there was something there to affect...
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He works it.Also, now you're getting ridiculous. You're claiming Darkseid had neither a consciousness nor a spirit/soul at the time? Get real.
he doesn't. the ALE, iirc, was independent of darkseid.
check my posts. where do i say he didn't have a consciousness or a spirit/soul? i said we don't know what he manifested as. if galan was here, he'd know.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he doesn't. the ALE, iirc, was independent of darkseid.check my posts. where do i say he didn't have a consciousness or a spirit/soul? i said we don't know what he manifested as. if galan was here, he'd know.
Galan wouldn't know any more certain than us.
What Galan would have is Galan's interpretation, which is the only thing Galan treats as a fact.....Galan.
Joking aside, it was some sort of energy form. It must have been him, or a piece of his spirit/mind, or it would not have been able to speak and so on. So Thor can affect it.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Galan wouldn't know any more certain than us.What Galan would have is Galan's interpretation, which is the only thing Galan treats as a fact.....Galan.
Joking aside, it was some sort of energy form. It must have been him, or a piece of his spirit/mind, or it would not have been able to speak and so on. So Thor can affect it.
i trust galan more than anyone when it comes to final crisis, but maybe thats just me.
ok, lets say for arguments sake that he can. what would he do?