Originally posted by NemeBroI never said Vegito had an advantage. I wasn't even talkin' to anybody nor did I say Vegito would even win in this thread when I 1st posted. All I'm sayin' is, Vegito hasn't been seen enough to actaully have an advantage over anyone. Yet er body just assumes that there are things Vegito can't do in a fight.
Not a single thing you said proved Vegito had any advantage in this fight.
Originally posted by GalvaclawHe doesn't have to know that he's even fightin' an impossibly large robot before he kills Simon.
How does Vegeto know Tengen Toppa Gurren lagann has pilots? How does it sense their energy amongst the maelstrom of spiral energy that makes up the super robot? Could Vegeto even sense a human from that far away? What stops TTGL attacking first?Also you're expecting vegeto to fight smart. Smarts was never his strong point
I'm sure Vegito would know the difference between the chi of a man and some energy he's never felt before. That's like Goku not bein' able to sense Mystic Gohan from Heaven cuz there are too many stars around in the universe. I think if lil old Goku could feel Gohan from that far away, he would feel the malicious chi of a human, somehow sittin' in the middle of space wit the intent to kill him.
And It would prolly take TTGL a million years for its hand to even reach Vegito.
And now we are assuming that Vegito is an idiot based on what?
I suppose a diseased Nematode has no chance of killin' a human. A human is just to big to be effected. 😆
Not even sayin Vegito is gonna win just how the Hell will TTGL even know Vegito exists? 😆
Originally posted by Endless MikeYeah, yeah, yeah...The Anti Spiral is Uber powerful so if it can't do it nothin' can. That's a story heard too often round these parts that focuses on power, instead of actual ability.
IT is teleportation, Goku explains it as teleportation and Buu says it's teleportation too. Furthermore the Anti-Spiral is a powerful reality warper who controlled his own dimension, if he can't teleport inside of TTGL what makes you think Vegeto can?
Vegito has better chances cuz IT uses the chi of his foes as a guide. Goku also does not simply teleport, he travels as a mass of light to his destination, now your sayin that TTGL's presence prohibits light speed travel and beyond. We also know that IT allows Goku to reach impossible places like Heaven and Hell cuz he uses the chi of the Kais to guide him. I think that IT is VERY different from the simple unexplained teleportation we see the Anti-Spriral use.
Not sayin Vegito is gonna win. Just sayin we shouldn't start riddin' band waggons when we don't know all the facts.
Sorry 'bout the triple post. Somthin's gotta be done about these stupid time restrictions.
I'm sure Vegito would know the difference between the chi of a man and some energy he's never felt before. That's like Goku not bein' able to sense Mystic Gohan from Heaven cuz there are too many stars around in the universe. I think if lil old Goku could feel Gohan from that far away, he would feel the malicious chi of a human, somehow sittin' in the middle of space wit the intent to kill him.
TTGL lagann is extension of Simons and the others will and the potentially universe collapsing energy existing within the Dai gurren brigade.
I'm going to put forward that spiral energy is for all intents and purposes chi. Vegeto has no feats to show that he can separate a humans energy from a galaxy sized inferno of the same energy.
And It would prolly take TTGL a million years for its hand to even reach Vegito.
And this is the point where we realise you haven't seen the show. TTGL can leap between galaxies in moments. It is massively faster than light.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...The Anti Spiral is Uber powerful so if it can't do it nothin' can. That's a story heard too often round these parts that focuses on power, instead of actual ability.
Anti spiral's achievements:
Conquering every sentient race in universe.
Convincing Earth's leader to wipe out his own armies and keep them
Created entire alternate realities to fight his enemies
underground for thousands of years.
Achieve goal of universe not dieing
God of own universe.
Caused death of heroes wife.
Vegeto's:
Beat up Buu
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now your sayin that TTGL's presence prohibits light speed travel and beyond.
You're really going with the Goku is a ball of light thing? What are the crew of TTGL going to do with themselves in the millions of years it takes to reach them. Has Vegeto even used IT?
And now we are assuming that Vegito is an idiot based on what?
When he refuses to kill Buu to so that Buu would absorb him? This was to rescue Goku and Vegeto's friends and family The same friends and family which were left to die minutes after their rescue.
Good plan there.
Originally posted by Overdose
[B]Yeah, yeah, yeah...The Anti Spiral is Uber powerful so if it can't do it nothin' can. That's a story heard too often round these parts that focuses on power, instead of actual ability.Vegito has better chances cuz IT uses the chi of his foes as a guide. Goku also does not simply teleport, he travels as a mass of light to his destination
This is a dub line that is wrong, read the manga.
Also even if TTGL was the same size as Vegito it would still win due to the fact that it can regenerate infinitely and change probability.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way, I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper and did quite well against it and vegito entered and one shotted it. I think the reality warper is >>>ttg.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And who is this reality warper?
Janemba. At first I thought he was talking about Buuhan because he mentioned Vegito...so many wrong things with that though.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw1. If Piccolo can hear a specific beings voice through out the entire and Goku can lock on to King Kais energy from the living world, I don't see why Vegito can not do what you say he can't. It 's as if you've seen an episode of the show where Vegito has tried to feel out someones energy and failed. Have you?
TTGL lagann is extension of Simons and the others will and the potentially universe collapsing energy existing within the Dai gurren brigade.I'm going to put forward that spiral energy is for all intents and purposes chi. Vegeto has no feats to show that he can separate a humans energy from a galaxy sized inferno of the same energy.
And this is the point where we realise you haven't seen the show. TTGL can leap between galaxies in moments. It is massively faster than light.
Anti spiral's achievements:
Conquering every sentient race in universe.
Convincing Earth's leader to wipe out his own armies and keep them
Created entire alternate realities to fight his enemies
underground for thousands of years.
Achieve goal of universe not dieing
God of own universe.
Caused death of heroes wife.Vegeto's:
Beat up Buu
...You're really going with the Goku is a ball of light thing? What are the crew of TTGL going to do with themselves in the millions of years it takes to reach them. Has Vegeto even used IT?
When he refuses to kill Buu to so that Buu would absorb him? This was to rescue Goku and Vegeto's friends and family The same friends and family which were left to die minutes after their rescue.
Good plan there.
2. I have seen every episode except for the last few. I admit that I have not seen the entire TTGL fight but I saw the last minutes on youtube and even watched the vid explaining his size. 'Course he can hop galaxy to galaxy, he's huge as hell. 😆 We are going to start the fight off where TTGL is in attack range and Vegito is not? Doesn't sound fair even if TTGL's range is farther.
3. Those are awesome achievements, I agree. But you make it sound as if Vegito has none because he is weak and not just because he's been in only 5 episodes of a nearly 300 episode anime. Again, creating false limitations based on nothing.
4.It is said that Goku turns into a ball of light, not that he travels at the same speed. We see Goku IT to New Namek instantly. Everyone knows that light can't go to another planet from earth in an instant. Also, it has been stated that Vegito knows all of Goku and Vegata's moves. Have you ever seen or read DBZ, at all?
5.We all know that act idiocy was not on Vegito's part but on the creators of the anime. Plus, he wasn't even Vegito anymore when they all died, It was just Goku. Can you give me another example?
Originally posted by Endless MikeSo we are going to go by the manga for one character even though he's fightin' someone who doesn't have a manga version...yet. Sounds kinda unfair to me.
This is a dub line that is wrong, read the manga.Also even if TTGL was the same size as Vegito it would still win due to the fact that it can regenerate infinitely and change probability.
So TTGL can survive being incinerated. If so, let me know cuz I haven't seen that.
If Piccolo can hear a specific beings voice through out the entire and Goku can lock on to King Kais energy from the living world, I don't see why Vegito can not do what you say he can't. It 's as if you've seen an episode of the show where Vegito has tried to feel out someones energy and failed. Have you?
Can you name me a time Vegeto has tried to lock onto a humans ki with within an even larger amount of energy?You have no evidence that Vegeto is capable of this, only that he has never tried.
I have seen every episode except for the last few. I admit that I have not seen the entire TTGL fight but I saw the last minutes on youtube and even watched the vid explaining his size. 'Course he can hop galaxy to galaxy, he's huge as hell. laughing We are going to start the fight off where TTGL is in attack range and Vegito is not? Doesn't sound fair even if TTGL's range is farther.
If you know he can hop from galaxy to galaxy why do you think it would take years for his fist to reach Vegeto? I think you're clutching at straws here.
These fights aren't supposed to fair. This isn't a sport.
Those are awesome achievements, I agree. But you make it sound as if Vegito has none because he is weak and not just because he's been in only 5 episodes of a nearly 300 episode anime. Again, creating false limitations based on nothing.
You claimed Vegeto was better because he had 'ability' which Anti spiral lacked. I pointed out that Vegeto did nothing in his limited appearance, killing your argument.
Also, it has been stated that Vegito knows all of Goku and Vegata's moves. Have you ever seen or read DBZ, at all?
Yet he never used half of them. Why should he suddenly decide to use them now? We're using the Vegeto who appeared in the show/manga not Vegeto as written by you.
5.We all know that act idiocy was not on Vegito's part but on the creators of the anime. Plus, he wasn't even Vegito anymore when they all died, It was just Goku. Can you give me another example?
Considering I summed up Vegeto's entire appearance in my post, no. Tell you what tell me when Vegeto did something smart.
So TTGL can survive being incinerated. If so, let me know cuz I haven't seen that.
Let me know when Vegeto can put out energy greater than the big bang.
I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper
If you are talking Janemba then he is really nothing specail in general since he only uses his RW powers in Hell, and we don't know if he can do it outside it or not. Even TTGL was smaller down then it still has a better chance on winning.
Ya'know, I see this will never go anywhere because people are ignoring the point I'm trying to make and I really don't feel like arguing over what anime character can beat who anymore. I will state my central point/OPINION and be done with this...
Idk who will win because 1 character is like a trillion times larger than the other and the smaller guy has never been seen anywhere near full power, for all I know Vegito's Kamehameha could destroy the universe, Idk. There for "I" as in "ME", Overdose is not sure about who will win.
If anyone has problems wit that, then go find a shrink to vent to.
Ya'know, I see this will never go anywhere because people are ignoring the point I'm trying to make and I really don't feel like arguing over what anime character can beat who anymore. I will state my central point/OPINION and be done with this...
If only someone like me had countered your every point. Damn that would of been nice.
Idk who will win because 1 character is like a trillion times larger than the other and the smaller guy has never been seen anywhere near full power, for all I know Vegito's Kamehameha could destroy the universe, Idk. There for "I" as in "ME", Overdose is not sure about who will win.
Far be it from to copy Endless Mike, but I think it fits here. No limits fallacy.
If anyone has problems wit that, then go find a shrink to vent to.
Translated: Everyone who argues against me is a sad person Yes we have been defeated. Damn us for disagreeing with someone on a versus forum!
Originally posted by Galvaclaw???!!!
If only someone like me had countered your every point. Damn that would of been nice.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Far be it from to copy Endless Mike, but I think it fits here. No limits fallacy.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw😆 Ya'know, you do have the right to disagree wit me and that's awesome. But sometimes maybe once every thousand years a man will arise to simply state an opinion and disappear or in this case a ask rhetorical question and dissapper and that's suppose to be okay too. I'm sorry that this is so serious to you that you must fend off every comment you don't like.
Translated: Everyone who argues against me is a sad person Yes we have been defeated. Damn us for disagreeing with someone on a versus forum!
People wit opinions different from yours, the scourge of mankind I tell'ya. KILL THEM ALL!!!