Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Again, there really was NO indication that the attack Thor used on Loki was actually soul-based. It seemed like it was more lifeforce based to me.The nobility part is a good point, too. It HAS to be mentioned that when Thor used it on Loki (if this is that attack in question), he was EXTREMELY hesitant to use it even on Loki. CIS rules apply in the forum and so I highly doubt that Thor would use this attack on the Surfer (kinda like how the Surfer wouldn't do the "shard board" attack on his opponents).
my bad, i was talking generally. you do make a point, though. i mean, stealing someone's soul? that's a pretty horrible thing to do to someone.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't recall an instance where Mjolnir refused to unleash its power where a noble person was involved.While Mjolnir does indeed have a certain amount of self-guidance, it's more a function of magical enchantment rather than a personified awareness separate from Thor. No matter who the user or the circumstances? That's your prerogative.
so it would steal the soul of someone like surfer or superman with no problems at all (assuming it can)?
Originally posted by Naija boyGamora ain't average. And she couldn't use the Time Gem for crap.
Within reason of course. Im talking about the average person.
Originally posted by -Pr-Any inability to do so would have no connection to a supposed awareness of, or refusal by, Mjolnir.
so it would steal the soul of someone like surfer or superman with no problems at all (assuming it can)?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Question. Mjolnir is a weapon created to recognise nobility in others, right? So it can be lifted or not depending on the person trying to lift it.Why would it then willingly try to suck the soul from a noble being?
Odin is the one who placed the enchantment on Mjolnir, noble would fare according to his standards. And the time Thor did use the soul-drain, Mjolnir stopped working.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Surfur is anything but Noble. He's killed billions.
Originally posted by Starscream M
he's never killed anyone directlyand he's only helped galactus in order to do a greater good (by trying to search for planets without sentient life)
Originally posted by Kris Blazebut my point is that concept of noble doesn't vary too much
Odin's killed billions though.
I mean, Doom is a evil scumbag, but he still recognizes who is noble and who isn't. its not like the fact that he's evil, he would consider someone like loki to be noble.
hence, I believe what odin considers noble would approximate thor's sense.
Originally posted by Starscream M
my mistake.
Warlock tells Surfer that his soul has been tampered with...
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Galactus confesses to being the one who did it...
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Originally posted by SlaaneshThat's abc logic. That's the same thing as saying character a beat a k-nian that they can beat superman. Surfer was serious in blood and thunder and was routed twice.
Surfer should beat Thor..when he's serious..he actually stomp BRB..that means he can beat Thor..
Originally posted by h1a8That's a completely different case. The first time these characters met Surfer agreed that Thor's hammer was more powerful than his power cosmic. Thor has also dealt with Galactus and sent him packing while the Surfer is nothing more than an insect to Galactus.
So what if Spider-man stomps Firelord everytime they meet and what if Firelord stomps or stalemates Silver Surfer every time they meet? . What would you say?
Originally posted by -Pr-It depends on Thor, really. He was still wielding it fine in blood and thunder. He almost took Norrin's head off. He was trying to execute Beta Ray Bill, etc. yet he continued to wield it. He could not however wield it as King Thor when his mindset changed. Thor didn't want to kill Loki but his final act of mayhem pushed him over the edge.
Question. Mjolnir is a weapon created to recognise nobility in others, right? So it can be lifted or not depending on the person trying to lift it.Why would it then willingly try to suck the soul from a noble being?
Great scene by the way. Thor is crying telling Loki how he will remember in their youthful exploratory days while Loki holds onto his hate and is saying he will remember him as his great enemy.
