Originally posted by krisblaze
We still need to see Sasquatch lift it though.Also two as two separate X-Jets.
He did a good job with the respect thread.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I thought maybe Walter lifted the X - jet because I saw a scan a few years ago stating the jet weighs 300 tons. That would be impressive if he did.
Originally posted by zopzop
The x-jet as in the Black Bird? It does NOT weigh 300 tons. I think the old handbook entry has it at 60 tons.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I don't have it. It was posted years ago.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, that's what I thought.As of now, the Handbook says it's 60 tons unloaded. About 72 tons at full capacity.
Originally posted by zopzop
Handbook entry better than imaginary scans.Produce the scan or shut up.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5328/xmenunlimited0116lx3.jpg
Originally posted by zopzop
Try looking here?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t491529.htmlHe did a good job with the respect thread.
That's how I noticed that the Jumbo jet-scan was almost identical to how I remembered the X-Jet scan to be. In other words, I was wrong 😛
Originally posted by krisblaze
I was wrong on the X Jet.I was thinking of the jumbo plane from uncanny x-men.
Originally posted by krisblazeI said there was a scan floating around saying the jet weighs 300 tons, he said that scan don't exist and I'm a moron, then I posted the scan. 😆
And you're both arguing because I misremembered.Which KM corrected (or at least claimed to not know of) around the first page 😛
It's all good though.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Still funny as hell, even went as far to call me a moron too.
Originally posted by krisblaze
And you're both arguing because I misremembered.Which KM corrected (or at least claimed to not know of) around the first page 😛
Originally posted by krisblaze
KM, didn't he lift the x-jet in x-men and alpha flight or something? They're trying to take off and he's holding them back.**** you for coming in here and accusing me of downplaying Sasquatch.
If anyone's given him or AF a fair turn on KMC it's me.
The listing doesn't matter, especially not when he doesn't have the feats to back up that supposed claim. That's pointless hype and Britain has it better.
He physically overpowered a hell-duke in his own domain.
He punched MJJ/Fury so hard that he needed years to reconstitute-
He stopped the PHOENIX FORCE when Thor and many others had no chance.
He killed the Super Skrull that had absorbed the combined magic of Avalon and Britain...They're in Britain and he can summon excalibur whenever he wants.
Wasn't the X-Jet, that was a 250 ton DC-10.
No offence a lot of what you just mentioned could be applied to when Walter fought he Super Skrull the Great Beasts, etc. He is not blowing out Sasquatch. Come on 😬 Even recently he showed being superior to both the She Hulks combined and stronger then A-Bomb and as I mentioned he can further amp his strength. This is a close match and no one is blowing out anyone. This is actually a competitive match.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Wasn't the X-Jet, that was a 250 ton DC-10.No offence a lot of what you just mentioned could be applied to when Walter fought he Super Skrull the Great Beasts, etc. He is not blowing out Sasquatch. Come on 😬 Even recently he showed being superior to both the She Hulks combined and stronger then A-Bomb and as I mentioned he can further amp his strength.
No, it couldn't.
The Otherworld Super-Skrull was created using the amulet of right, holy grail, sword of might and the magic in Avalon.
Britain too can amplify his strength and in Britain he has an unlimited source of energy.
He destroyed Lilith for chrissakes, she was giving Strange a hard time.
Maybe if they had been fighting in Canada or somewhere this could've been a close fight, but there's absolutely no chance in hell that Captain Britain's losing to Sasquatch in Britain.
Originally posted by krisblaze
No, it couldn't.The Otherworld Super-Skrull was created using the amulet of right, holy grail, sword of might and the magic in Avalon.
Britain too can amplify his strength and in Britain he has an unlimited source of energy.
He destroyed Lilith for chrissakes, she was giving Strange a hard time.
Maybe if they had been fighting in Canada or somewhere this could've been a close fight, but there's absolutely no chance in hell that Captain Britain's losing to Sasquatch in Britain.
With the sword of Excalibur, but physically he was getting dominated. It was a feat for the sword not Brian. Nor will he go for the killshot against Walter. Correct me if I'm wrong didn't he have excalibur recently against ms.marvel or was it something else?
Lilith as in the Mother of All Demons? She has been beaten and killed before.
Elder God > Captain Britain's energy supply
You act like he is invincible in Britain and has never lost there....he has. If he has Excalibur and willing to go for the kill I have no problem giving Brian the nod then.
Originally posted by -K-M-
With the sword of Excalibur, but physically he was getting dominated. It was a feat for the sword not Brian. Nor will he go for the killshot against Walter. Correct me if I'm wrong didn't he have excalibur recently against ms.marvel or was it something else?Lilith as in the Mother of All Demons? She has been beaten and killed before.
Elder God > Captain Britain's energy supply
You act like he is invincible in Britain and has never lost there....he has. If he has Excalibur and willing to go for the kill I have no problem giving Brian the nod then.
He had it when he was fighting the War Machines, not against Captain Marvel.
If you insist on that ridiculous fight, then sure. Captain Britain uses his fancy portals to send Sasquatch right into a spiked pit. Where the plain wooden spikes will almost kill Walter.
Lilith has been imprisoned as far as I can recall. Can't really kill her.
No, no no no no. Captain Britain's energy supply is multiversal.
Who beat Captain Britain in Britain?
Originally posted by krisblaze
He's fighting a superior foe, and it's called suspension.He had it when he was fighting the War Machines, not against Captain Marvel.
If you insist on that ridiculous fight, then sure. Captain Britain uses his fancy portals to send Sasquatch right into a spiked pit. Where the plain wooden spikes will almost kill Walter.
Lilith has been imprisoned as far as I can recall. Can't really kill her.
No, no no no no. Captain Britain's energy supply is multiversal.
Who beat Captain Britain in Britain?
No im not saying that. I'm asking what sword that was? You can see him holding a sword in sue's construct.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought she was killed in the 90s and then resurrected?
Hmmmmmmm
Lionheart I believe his name was or was it Avalon?
Originally posted by -K-M-
No im not saying that. I'm asking what sword that was? You can see him holding a sword in sue's construct.Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought she was killed in the 90s and then resurrected?
Hmmmmmmm
Lionheart I believe his name was or was it Avalon?
Right, I didn't see the sword when he was on the ground.
In the Ghost Rider story? I thought they "banished" her.
Not to mention that Merlin explicitly stated that he allowed Captain Britain to die.
It was Avalon then, and he sure as shit didn't defeat him. The first time we see Captain Britain punch him into a building, and that's that (though they're both seemingly unharmed). The second time they both have help, though it ends with Captain Britain winning, even though he was trying to convince Avalon to join him.
Not that it matters since it was pre-ressurrection Captain Britain.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Do you think Cap will win in Canada as well?
In Canada it's a lot closer at least.
Cap britain still wins imo as having a forcefield+durability is still better than just having the durability. I think they're more or less equally durable, but the forcefield means that if Sasquatch ain't landing his best blows, Cap won't really feel them.
Healing, Walter can heal, but I don't see that saving him any more than Cap's ability to heal does. Lady Deathstrike cut his face up when he was weakened, but he hasn't shown any scars or anything...and she cut him to/through the bone. He also doesn't age.
Speed is a wash and same with Reflexes. Sasquatch has great feats, but so does Cap. They both have superhuman reflexes imo, even though a lot of people will deny it.
Fighting skills is where I'd give Cap another advantage. Not just because he's been fighting a century or two longer than Sasquatch, but also because his powers came with fighting skills and because it's been displayed/mentioned several times.
Strength is a wash. They've both got feats that lie around 100 ton and can go beyond that when they have to.
Intellect is a wash. Brian is a physicist and Walter is a doctor.
Battle-smarts/leadership/whatever They're both seasoned heroes. Brian is one of the greatest in the multiverse though. He's the leader of the Captain Britain Corps (RIP x3) and has led several teams, AND he's been in more diverse battles than Sasquatch. This doesn't give him much of an edge here though.
Flight. Cap can fly several thousand mph, Sasquatch can't fly.
Other stuff:
Cap can open portals at will.
Cap can USE his forcefield actively to punch and create barriers.
I might be leaving something out? KM will correct that.
I have a lot of respect for him and I think we're pretty close on most issues.
I just dislike him accusing me of low-balling and then trying to harp on an off-panel fight that had Cap down for a panel. Especially when Cap had just killed several war machines and taken a hit from the Hulk.
