Originally posted by -K-M-Yep, Walter was beating him pretty good but Cain didn't go down. You got scans handy?
Well actually with the hulk buster he was clearly winning and stopped fighting when ordered to. When he stopped juggernaut hit him away. When he came back he was pummelling him but at thay time juggernaut gave upBut yes sasquatch would lose to classic juggernaut. No question.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I didn't know Cap was weakened, first I've heard of this tell me more.
This is why you keep saying Sasquatch has a better average, because you're 30 years behind on Captain Britain.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Also, as some may have noticed, Captain Britain was less than spectacular in early Excalibur, and more of a douche.This is because Roma puts a curse of enfeeblement on him, which reduces his strength and causes him to fail whenever he tries to act independently, from Excalibur #47:
Explained here by Merlyn
And confirmed here by RomaNot only that, but his suit actually prevented him from fully developing and accessing his own power, confirmed by himself here in Captain Britain v2 #13:
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Captain%20Britain%20respect%20thread/Bios%20and%20etc/Suitinhib.jpg
Originally posted by juggernaut74
My computer won't let me load scans from photobucket for some reason.
That's okay, it goes back a while.
It's been more or less the running theme of his history. Due to his love for science and disbelief of magic, Brian needed something to help him make sense. In reality he's just strong because his dad was of otherworld origin/chosen by Merlin due to being the greatest "human" on 616. The power of excalibur and role as multiversal guardian is actually his legacy and theoretically he can be as powerful as Roma and Merlin if he embraced his role, etc.
That's what happened when he temporarily became the guardian of the otherworld/replaced Roma. I didn't address all of this in the respect thread because they decided to go back on it and turn him into something "inbetween".
Anyways, because his mind needed time to embrace magic or whatever, e was initially given the amulet of right and the force-staff and later the suit. First he believed the power to come entirely from these objects. Later he believed it to be a focus. Then, finally, it was revealed that they were there to keep his powers in check 🙂
The only relevant part of all this, however, is this.
90s Captain Britain was weaker, slower and dumber due to
a) Strength/co-ordination Jinx by Roma
b) The suit inhibiting the growth of his power
c) Him not being ready to accept his heritage
When Merlin (Freed from his evil persona and from the Fury's influence) was released from his prison in Otherworld he let Captain Britain die to the Skrull-Nuke and resurrected him with his new abilities. These "new" abilities are simply greater superhuman stats and more esoteric bullshit. Like touching magic, seeing through illusions and so on.