Autobots help the Rebels at Hoth.

Optimus leads his team of Autobots to the Hoth system. He sees that the Rebels are facing an overbearing invasion. Jazz convinces Ironhide that they should intervene. Everyone agrees and they tell the Rebels to pack there bags and watch from the hillside. "We got this shit." says Jazz. Vader sees this and doesn't retreat. He orders "Onward march. Continue with the attack as planned." He even boards the battlefield himself as he sees this as a rare challenge. Vader's troops are performing at an all-time high both out of inspiration and fear. Who wins Hoth?

Autobots
*Optimus Prime
*Ironhide
*Ratchet
*Sideswipe
*Jazz
*Bumblebee
*Arcee

Empire
*Darth Vader
*8 AT-AT Walkers
*12 AT-ST Walkers
*150 Snowtroopers

Autobots win. Those machines were just shithouse, that got beat by ropes lmao. Optimus and Sideswipe cuts all their legs off in no time. The other guys can do whatever they want, probably run over some incompetent snow troopers.

Vader could possibly get one kill, but then gets his head shot off.

Autobots easily win this. The integrity and weapon systems of the Imperial machines in no way compare to that of the Autobots.

If Vader can do that Force-butthurt-surge he did at the end of ROTS that shook the base and cracked the floors, all the Autobots get their shit ****ed up.

Originally posted by Robtard
If Vader can do that Force-butthurt-surge he did at the end of ROTS that shook the base and cracked the floors, all the Autobots get their shit ****ed up.

agreed

Sideswipe solos.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sideswipe solos.

You're gay

Vader conjours up a win.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're gay

Well, if all that needs doing is disabling their legs, and Sideswipe has shown he can cut through metal, why wouldn't he solo?

It's not like he's fighting someone who can defend themselves.

-AC

Originally posted by Placidity
Autobots win. Those machines were just shithouse, that got beat by ropes lmao.

Take away that rope and then they're not shithouse.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Take away that rope and then they're not shithouse.

Yea they are... 🙁

Slow, hard to maneuver, easily toppled, slow rate of fire, defenseless against attacks from close proximity (on the ground) and worst of all, operated by morons.

Originally posted by Placidity
Autobots win. Those machines were just shithouse, that got beat by ropes lmao. Optimus and Sideswipe cuts all their legs off in no time. The other guys can do whatever they want, probably run over some incompetent snow troopers.

Vader could possibly get one kill, but then gets his head shot off.

Yeah the Autobots win here. They're quick enough to dodge the AT-AT's fire and can take advantage of the AT-AT's weakness (the legs) pretty easily. As you say, Optimus and Sideswipe can slice them off and the others can use cable from Echo Base to trip them. AT-ST's go down easy under Autobot fire.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yea they are...

Slow, hard to maneuver, easily toppled, slow rate of fire, defenseless against attacks from close proximity (on the ground) and worst of all, operated by morons.

All true.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well, if all that needs doing is disabling their legs, and Sideswipe has shown he can cut through metal, why wouldn't he solo?

It's not like he's fighting someone who can defend themselves.

-AC

The At-ATs and AT-STs are pretty useless when you consider that they're extremely slow and can only fire in the direction that they're facing. I always wondered why the Rebels couldn't figure that out and just flank them from the rear.

Luke figured it out.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well, if all that needs doing is disabling their legs, and Sideswipe has shown he can cut through metal, why wouldn't he solo?

It's not like he's fighting someone who can defend themselves.

-AC

Vader and 150 troopers. He's not soloing.

Snowtroopers are rubbish, they are trained as well as Stormtroopers, and they couldnt hit a 400 fleeing walking carpet.

Vader? What's he gonna do? MAYBE some slight saber damage, but he was SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. SS will run him over.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Snowtroopers are rubbish, they are trained as well as Stormtroopers, and they couldnt hit a 400 fleeing walking carpet.

Vader? What's he gonna do? MAYBE some slight saber damage, but he was SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. SS will run him over.

150 of them firing on one target, they're going to hit. Even if they are retarded (which they are).

Force push, force crush and that lightsabre would cut through SS like butter.

PS, SS doesn't have snow-tyres, so he's going to have to hump it on foot.

But the Rebels are there to help, th snowtroopers are gonna have to fight them too. But we are talking about SS soloing, so it's a moot point.

Vader was never shown force pushing anything remotely as big as SS, was he?

I think he could adapt to the snow, he's a frigging transformer.