Originally posted by Galan007
doomsday was unfazed by the astro force during "doomsday wars" [which was essentially still h/p doomsday.]the people who disagree with me regarding the astro force's superority to omega powers have more than likely never read orion's own series. 🙂
Which is impressive for him durabilitywise. It still doesnt further this case of him magically evolving immunity to blasts if it was never stated or shown.
Hmmm, id think that many of Darkseids fans would have actually read his series but..meh. Anyhow what are some of the feats he (Orion) performed since ur implying that Orion>Darkseid.
Originally posted by Naija boyif doomsday is left completely unfazed by given energy attacks, then it is perfectly reasonable to assume he would retain the demonstrated immunity, until proven otherwise. for instance: superman doesn't have to get shot a million times on panel for me to realize bullets have no effect on him.
Which is impressive for him durabilitywise. It still doesnt further this case of him magically evolving immunity to blasts if it was never stated or shown.Hmmm, id think that many of Darkseids fans would have actually read his series but..meh. Anyhow what are some of the feats he (Orion) performed since ur implying that Orion>Darkseid.
as for orion's feats: i seem to remember him operating on a universal+ level with the AF. i'll have to skim through a few issues when i get home just to varify - but i'll let you know regardless.
Originally posted by Galan007
if doomsday is left completely unfazed by given energy attacks, then it is perfectly reasonable to assume he would retain the demonstrated immunity, until proven otherwise. for instance: superman doesn't have to get shot a million times on panel for me to realize bullets have no effect on him.as for orion's feats: i seem to remember him operating on a universal+ level with the AF. i'll have to skim through a few issues when i get home just to varify - but i'll let you know regardless.
Him being unfazed by the astroforce can be attributed to his immense durability. What im looking for is him evolving "immunity" to an attack that had previously affected him midbattle.
Ok thanks.
Originally posted by Naija boyevolution to waverider's attack is all that comes to mind. other than that, doomsday didn't need to evolve immunity to any other energy-based attacks, because nothing else [be them: GL, OB, AF, etc.] had any kind of affect on him.
What im looking for is him evolving "immunity" to an attack that had previously affected him midbattle.Ok thanks.
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Originally posted by Galan007
if doomsday is left completely unfazed by given energy attacks, then it is perfectly reasonable to assume he would retain the demonstrated immunity, until proven otherwise. for instance: superman doesn't have to get shot a million times on panel for me to realize bullets have no effect on him.as for orion's feats: i seem to remember him operating on a universal+ level with the AF. i'll have to skim through a few issues when i get home just to varify - but i'll let you know regardless.
Are you referring to JK4W where Orion matched and contained universal destroying energies?
Anyway, the Astro Force controls the fundamental forces in the universe (as was stated in JLA WW3). It can manipulate reality is the "Wrath of the Source".
I think overall Astro Force is equal to the Omega Force.
Originally posted by Galan007
evolution to waverider's attack is all that comes to mind. other than that, doomsday didn't need to evolve immunity to any other energy-based attacks, because nothing else [be them: GL, OB, AF, etc.] had any kind of affect on him.👆
Hmm, im not sure if he evolved against waveriders attack. I remember Enyalus mentioning otherwise. Was it ever mentioned that he actually evolved immunity to it? Or was it just a case of DD outright resisting it?
Originally posted by Naija boyeny argued that doomsday only evolved immunity against the nervous system attack waverider used against him.
Hmm, im not sure if he evolved against waveriders attack. I remember Enyalus arguing against that. Was it ever mentioned that he actually evolved immunity to it? Or was it just a case of DD outright resisting it?
what i pointed out is the fact that the first 'trick' waverider used wasn't even an effort to attack doomsday at all. instead, he simply peered into doomsday's 'present' [essentially allowing himself to see DD's thoughts.]:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6498/wr1s.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3428/wr2.jpg
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the second time WR used his powers on doomsday, he attempted to shut down his nervous system. this time, not only was the specific attack unsuccessful, but the feedback caused from the attempt literally rendered waverider unable to control his energies as a whole:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1135/wr3nn.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5044/wr4.jpg
in a nutshell, it's obvious [to me, at least] that doomsday became immune to the very energy of which waverider is composed [ie. chronal energy.]
