JLA vs. Avengers (A Fair Match of 8v8)

Originally posted by batdude123
This isn't powerful for a herald?

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barker

I'm sorry, was that the scan where he was releasing enough energy to create stars? Because that happened to be the one I was referring to. Not Lightray in general. but I guess it's easier to simply make up something to respond to, rather than responding to the actual post. And hurting Orion, wow. Way out of any herald's league.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Doesn't it take time for Superman to exceed light speed? Lightray can do it in seconds.

And when has Wally outraced the black racer while weakened? Because Lightray has.

That depends on the writer.

Why does he need to be weakened? Racer couldn't catch up to Barry and Wally when they were going slower than light-speed 😐

Originally posted by batdude123
This isn't powerful for a herald?

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods09-13.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods09-14.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods09-15.jpg

barker

Yeah, Lightray is a BEAST when he wants to be.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Firestorm turns Hal into a saltshaker.

Superman salts team 2.

😂

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'm sorry, was that the scan where he was releasing enough energy to create stars? Because that happened to be the one I was referring to. Not Lightray in general. but I guess it's easier to simply make up something to respond to, rather than responding to the actual post. And hurting Orion, wow. Way out of any herald's league.

That depends on the writer.

Why does he need to be weakened? Racer couldn't catch up to Barry and Wally when they were going slower than light-speed 😐

Bad writing, maybe? If they were moving slower than the speed of light, BR should have caught them. Afterall, BR is known to easily move faster than light.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Bad writing, maybe? If they were moving slower than the speed of light, BR should have caught them. Afterall, BR is known to easily move faster than light.

Only the most die-hard Superman enthusiasts consider going lightspeed an instant victory in a herald-level match.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Or maybe the Black Racer just isn't as fast you'd like to think he is. Your entire point here was basically "Lightray is fast, he can go around lightspeed"

Only the most die-hard Superman enthusiasts consider going lightspeed an instant victory in a herald-level match.

No, he is a LOT faster than light. In Simonson's Orion, he was moving 8x faster than light to catch Orion.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, he is a LOT faster than light. In Simonson's Orion, he was moving 8x faster than light to catch Orion.

you must be pissed at morrison, then.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you must be pissed at morrison, then.

Final Crisis, correct? I found that to be slightly odd, because Black Racer was keeping up with Lightray, who at top speed was moving a lot faster than light.

Lightray then created a sun and BR just passed right through that.

JLA takes this 6/10

Originally posted by iceman24567
Drains him easily huh? 😐

why not?
when Wendel had problems to drain an energy or energy based being?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Firestorm turns Quasar and Binary into salt.

Problem solved.

not with sersi there

You can also say the same thing about LR as well. Works both ways.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
You can also say the same thing about LR as well. Works both ways.

Yes it does most of them cancel each other. Quasar has easily drained suns before and has moved faster than light

Binary has feats in that level too and Starhawk is like a Quasar with precognition that exists in all realitie, etc..

it's just none of the teams is going to stomp. I say team avengers has a slight edge due to cosmic awareness and prcognition skills

Originally posted by Warlord
Yes it does most of them cancel each other. Quasar has easily drained suns before and has moved faster than light

Binary has feats in that level too and Starhawk is like a Quasar with precognition that exists in all realitie, etc..

it's just none of the teams is going to stomp. I say team avengers has a slight edge due to cosmic awareness and prcognition skills

yep. Many people on both lineups can drain the other. Eventually, all of them will have no powers and THATS when Orion comes in handy. He's the only one on either team that can fight. He'd cut Quasar's head off and then aim for the rest. Check mate! 😄

Originally posted by Prep-Man
yep. Many people on both lineups can drain the other. Eventually, all of them will have no powers and THATS when Orion comes in handy. He's the only one on either team that can fight. He'd cut Quasar's head off and then aim for the rest. Check mate! 😄

😛

Thor can deal with him

I doubt Thor is as good of a fighter. Orion did go up against someone Gamora level. Said to be the "greatest Martial artist in the universe" or something to that. Orion nearly beat her and he was in a pacifist state. Basically weakened and not in the right mindset for battle. Thor's good, but not that good. At least I haven't seen it.

Have you seen him going H2H (unarmed) against Mjolnir wielding Loki and Fenriz?

I can list other H2H Thor's instances as well. I say he is just as good

Originally posted by Warlord
Have you seen him going H2H (unarmed) against Mjolnir wielding Loki and Fenriz?

I can list other H2H Thor's instances as well. I say he is just as good

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. Thor isn't just as good as Orion. Orion is the Dog of War. It's like his God power. with no powers, Thor would lose to Orion.

what do u mean "with no powers"?

Thor is just as good