Al versus Murtaugh..

Started by dadudemon4 pages

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Is THAT so hard to understand?

-AC

No.

SS is faster and more skilled than BB. No contest. BB's only hope is to land a shot with one of his marginally effective arm canons. However, even then, I see SS dodging those, no problem.

You see, for me, it's silly to think BB even stands a chance against SS and his blades. I am/was quite shocked to see how many people are/was on the BB wagon of victory. For me, it doesn't make sense that BB stands a chance. If they started close, it'd be over in 3 seconds with BB in pieces and SS ending with "damn, I'm good."

Originally posted by dadudemon
No.

SS is faster and more skilled than BB. No contest. BB's only hope is to land a shot with one of his marginally effective arm canons. However, even then, I see SS dodging those, no problem.

You see, for me, it's silly to think BB even stands a chance against SS and his blades. I am/was quite shocked to see how many people are/was on the BB wagon of victory. For me, it doesn't make sense that BB stands a chance. If they started close, it'd be over in 3 seconds with BB in pieces and SS ending with "damn, I'm good."

Is this the arrangement you two have?

You protect him by arguing for him, then he can just come in and say he agrees without having to produce his own argument?

Well, that may be rhetorical since RJ seems to believe you, and I quote "step up to bat" for him. Do me an honest favour and let him argue his own battles, k? Let him fight his own battles, Dudemon. He feels like you bat for him because you are a good friend, you have described him as pathetically naive. RJ was right, it seems. One of you says you disagree on a lot, one of you says the opposite. On that note, I'm not sure what the deal is with you two, but I would like it if you let him address his own points for once. Any time I debate with the guy, you stand in front of him and start wrapping him in cotton wool. Any time ANYONE does, actually.

Is that what it is? You spend so much time saying that RJ can handle himself, that you don't let him do it because you know you're wrong? I'm asking you civilly, just let him reply to his own debates. Stop replying for the guy.

Anyway. based on what, do you say that Swipe is faster? On what do you base the claim that he's more skillful? He's done one thing and that was drive around, skate a bit and jump through the air. How do you determine that he's a faster fighter? We've never seen him fight. Bumblebee has beaten two Decepticons at once using what seems to be martial arts, so how is he not as skillful? When Swipe was hiding behind a wall firing his weapon, Bumblebee was in the mix having a fight with Ravage and Rampage.

You and RJ are just deciding Swipe would win because you want him to. I like Sideswipe more than Bumblebee, but that doesn't mean he'd win. All available signs suggest he wouldn't, and your only counter is "He would, he's faster and his blades would win him the fight.".

Sorry, but you've got nothing.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Is this the arrangement you two have?

You protect him by arguing for him, then he can just come in and say he agrees without having to produce his own argument?

Well, that may be rhetorical since RJ seems to believe you, and I quote "step up to bat" for him. Do me an honest favour and let him argue his own battles, k? Let him fight his own battles, Dudemon. He feels like you bat for him because you are a good friend, you have described him as pathetically naive.

RJ was right, it seems. One of you says you disagree on a lot, one of you says the opposite.

On that note, I'm not sure what the deal is with you two, but I would like it if you let him address his own points for once. Any time I debate with the guy, you stand in front of him and start wrapping him in cotton wool. Any time ANYONE does, actually.

Is that what it is? You spend so much time saying that RJ can handle himself, that you don't let him do it because you know you're wrong? I'm asking you civilly, just let him reply to his own debates. Stop replying for the guy.

Hey.

Just stop trolling for once and actually try to be civil. Is it REALLY that difficult for you?

What is wrong with you? There is something seriously wrong with you, bro.

And, yes, RJ can, at times, be pathetically naive. Bitches take advantage of my homie and he just tries to bend over backwards. That's just a fault of him being waaaaay too nice.

That has NOTHING to do with MY perspective on the topic.

Yeah, just disregard the threads where we argued for pages and pages.

Could you, I dunno, stop being a troll for just a bit? It's hit and miss with you. Sometimes, I can have a good conversation with you without you getting emotional and turning it into a shit slinging fest.

So, prove that I'm always there to backup RJ. ALWAYS, or even a majority of the time. You'll just have to search all of his recent posts and check to see if I "step up" for RJ.

Go ahead, prove it.

By the way, your post will be reported as trolling because you damn well know that most of your post is a massive bait/troll post that it horribly off topic and has nothing to do with my on topic post.

This is a thread that has people posting in it. Some people post their opinions in it. I posted my opinion to your opinion (which is irrelevant of RJ's posts and opinions). My opinion was civil. You should have learned by now, with all of your warnings and bans, to keep on topic and not turn things into personal attacks and ***** fests. It is astounding that you still haven't learned that.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyway. based on what, do you say that Swipe is faster?

Screen feats. Did you watch the same thing I did?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You and RJ are just deciding Swipe would win because you want him to. I like Sideswipe more than Bumblebee, but that doesn't mean he'd win. All available signs suggest he wouldn't, and your only counter is "He would, he's faster and his blades would win him the fight.".

Sorry, but you've got nothing.

I decided SS would win based on how swiftly easily he moves about (which is superior to BB) and how easily his blade cut through a transformer. He's faster, more agile, and his blade is obviously a much better offensive weapon than BB's arm canons.

If I had my choice, in a Mech Warrior type game, between BB's arm canons and SS's arm blades/back canon, I'd obviously choose SS. However, there's something else here that makes the choice much much easier: SS is much more agile and he's significantly faster. It's actually a no brainer to determine that SS has the better offensive character. He would make a scrap pile of BB in mere seconds, as I said earlier.

Now, we can talk about defensive capability of each character. Shall we take it there?

Also, I highly recommend you keep the conversation more civil. There's not reason to change a civil conversation about fictional characters into a b****ing match that does nothing but lower the quality and intelligence of the discussion.

Edit.

Wrong thread.

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