Kenpachi vs Killer Bee

Originally posted by chasedown
I havent been on here in a while i just wanna put my two cents in.

I think what yungz is focusing on is the exaggeration not if theyve be proven or not disproven gogeta.

Hyperbole is overexaggeration. I just looked it up and like he said the two are literally synonyms for each other.

Yes, but you can at least see where I'm going with this, right?

Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English.

At least you kind of get it though.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yes, but you can at least see where I'm going with this, right?

Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English.

At least you kind of get it though.

I know what your saying and respectfully disagree thats just it hyperbole doesnt have to be intentional. If you say stuff like im a god or my power is infinite or i cant die those are exaggerations of your actual capabilities.

I know what your saying though its not stupid of you to think that way.
All of those guys were exaggerating

Originally posted by chasedown
I know what your saying and respectfully disagree thats just it hyperbole doesnt have to be intentional. If you say stuff like im a god or my power is infinite or i cant die those are exaggerations of your actual capabilities.

I know what your saying though its not stupid of you to think that way.
All of those guys were exaggerating

"Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English."

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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English."

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lol it is still a lie you just didnt mean to lie.

Originally posted by chasedown
lol it is still a lie you just didnt mean to lie.

Nope. A lie is intentionally telling something that isn't true.

I take back what I said about you knowing a little about what you're talking about. You obviously don't.

So you think that barragan as he was literally dying actually thought he was immortal even though he was cursing hachi for doing what he did to him. Its obviously overexaggeration anyone who trys to make an excuse for him. Is blind and close minded.

Your literally making it seem as barragan had the mind of a 8 year old

Cmon bro just think rationally

Originally posted by chasedown
So you think that barragan as he was literally dying actually thought he was immortal even though he was cursing hachi for doing what he did to him. Its obviously overexaggeration anyone who trys to make an excuse for him. Is blind and close minded.

Your literally making it seem as barragan had the mind of a 8 year old

Cmon bro just think rationally

Are you phucking retarded?

I've already explained this "bro".

Barragan didn't want to accept the fact that he wasn't a god, because he was so used to being considered as one by everyone else.

IF you can't see THAT, you're in as much denial as he was.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Are you phucking retarded?

I've already explained this "bro".

Barragan didn't want to accept the fact that he wasn't a god, because he was so used to being considered as one by everyone else.

IF you can't see THAT, you're in as much denial as he was.

Thats all speculation derived to save yourself from thinking its hyperbole.

So what your saying is even though barragan knew there were others strong enough to kill him he still thinks he cant die?

Is that you logic.

Same thing with hisagi your whole argument about him is based on purely speculation without any evidence. How can you say aizen didnt make findor number 6 because he was a fraccion and still say that findor is stronger than a captain. Thats literrally oxymornic logic that makes no sense.

Originally posted by chasedown
Thats all speculation derived to save yourself from thinking its hyperbole.

So what your saying is even though barragan knew there were others strong enough to kill him he still thinks he cant die?

Is that you logic.

Same thing with hisagi your whole argument about him is based on purely speculation without any evidence. How can you say aizen didnt make findor number 6 because he was a fraccion and still say that findor is stronger than a captain. Thats literrally oxymornic logic that makes no sense.

How hard is it to get this?

Barragan WAS IN DENIAL. He knew deep-down that he could be killed, but his ego wouldn't let him admit it. It's exactly the same as all the times Vegeta said Goku was nothing to him, despite losing to him and being much weaker, dozens of times. His pride wouldn't let him accept it, just like Barragan's wouldn't.

I don't know if "that is me logic", because that doesn't make any sense.

No evidence? My evidence was the sole fact that a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.

Also, in that case, why weren't Renji, Yumichika, Ikkaku and Yachiru made into captains, when all four were demonstrably much stronger than captains at that point? Simply because they weren't. It has nothing to do with how strong they are. I mean look at Naruto, he's a gennin and he's still able to casually bat away kage+ level ninja like they're nothing.

Lol im done i said my points but Whatever lets Agree to disagree you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.

You are very strong willed which can be a double edged at times because it can sometimes lead you to make no sense whatsoever lol

If we keep going were just gonna be talking in circles.

Originally posted by chasedown
Lol im done i said my points but Whatever lets Agree to disagree you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.

You are very strong willed which can be a double edged at times because it can sometimes lead you to make no sense whatsoever lol

If we keep going were just gonna be talking in circles.

There's nothing to disagree or agree about. You still ignore the sheer fact that "a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.".

So basically, I hereby accept your concession. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
There's nothing to disagree or agree about. You still ignore the sheer fact that "a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.".

So basically, I hereby accept your concession. 👆

You act as is 33% is alot of power though. Hitsuguya was greatly handicapped 70% power loss is devastating in any sense real world and fiction. Take 70% percent of power away from anything and it will be a mere shell of itself. Heck even the hiroshima bomb wouldnt have done much damage with only 30% power. Hell look what happens to ichigo when he cant fight at full power.Also once we see that handicap come off his opponent was oneshotted. Which is more than hisagi did with findor.

You have to understand that not much time really passed between the two arcs and Weve never seen hisagi state he was training before then nor have we seen him. Nor was he ever promoted to captain while tousen was gone. so to say he increased his power exponentially to that extent is based on pure speculation an baseless. He just doesnt have feats that equal to the captains during the ss arc.