Kalibak vs Wolverine

Started by leonidas31 pages

Originally posted by KharmaDog
That just ain't right.

I hear that in his next mini Wolverine:
1. Beats down Thor with a fly swatter.
2. Suffocates Hulk with a dixie cup.
3. And impales Juggs on an adamantium swizel stick.

That is why I spent so much time away from these forums...and I sense that my time back is limited.

in all honesty, it has been BETTER than it used to be, imo. there are quite a few objective people in the forum now-a-days. and it's hard to blame logan fans. the writers and higher-ups at marvel have ALLOWED logan (a character i used to like a LOT--miller's wolverine was one of the best minis ever. . .) to become this . . . whatever he has become. and because of that, we as readers have been forced to acknowledge him for what they've made him.

i don't like it anymore than you do, my friend . . . ❌

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The contest of (bullshit) champions incident then? Where Thor could fly, Rogue could knock out -everyone- with one touch and Hercules was knocked by a alien-stimulated berserker rage Wolverine?

Both incident seem a bit iffy to me.

Just tell the Wolverine fans to **** off.

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that usually works . . .

what we need is a simple, on-panel battle between herc and logan where herc demolishes him. sometimes i think if we can get that, the world would be right again.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The contest of (bullshit) champions incident then? Where Thor could fly, Rogue could knock out -everyone- with one touch and Hercules was knocked by a alien-stimulated berserker rage Wolverine?

Both incident seem a bit iffy to me.

To my knowledge, that wasn't immortal Hercules.

Originally posted by leonidas
in all honesty, it has been BETTER than it used to be, imo. there are quite a few objective people in the forum now-a-days. and it's hard to blame logan fans. the writers and higher-ups at marvel have ALLOWED logan (a character i used to like a LOT--miller's wolverine was one of the best minis ever. . .) to become this . . . whatever he has become. and because of that, we as readers have been forced to acknowledge him for what they've made him.

i don't like it anymore than you do, my friend . . . ❌

It's all around, the fans liked it so the writers made it and the fans ate it up, and that meant more sells and the cycle continues. They were depowering him some... for a while at least.

Originally posted by Starscream M
haha, you pitt Kalibak against the one person built to kill him.

nice one.

how?

also, it depends on which Kalibak, tbh...

What's up guys? No love for the Legendary Tiger Tea-amped Tawky Tawny? peaches

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What's up guys? No love for the Legendary Tiger Tea-amped Tawky Tawny? peaches

no, because Tawny would f*cking WRECK Wolverine.

what kalibak are we using? some kalibaks are pretty aweful, but his better versions should stomp hard.

Originally posted by -Pr-
no, because Tawny would f*cking WRECK Wolverine.
Yeah. Tawny is not to be played with.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Don't go getting all rational and accepting on me leo. 😠

As I understand it, in any of the vs. battles we are supposed to take the combatants with their best showings and highest potential in mind barring PIS and CIS.

That being said, many of Logan's victories over major bricks seem CIS and PIS induced. He is such an inconsistant character that his feats seem hard to take. For instance, so much is made about how much damage he can inflct with his claws, but in that brief showing against Ulik he takes a swipe to no affect and in the panel, after what seems to be a lengthy off panel fight, Logan is about to get smucked by an Ulik who looks no worse for wear.

Wolverine has pretty much become a widely accepted Squirrel Girl.

(UNLEASH THE FANBOYS)

And you want to bash other people for their intellect?

Are you so oblivious that you can't understand Wolverine 1st class is a comic geared at a younger audience and as such the performance of Wolverine's claws vs. ANYTHING pretty much HAS to get dulled down?

Seriously, it's been flat out stated by the writer of the series that he has to take liberties to fit the stories around a character like Wolverine and still gear them to a younger audience. Not that hard to figure out.. Lest of course you think Ulik is terribly more durable than Hulk, Thor, Herc, or Namor... Which given that you think all of Wolverine's long history vs. bricks is bullshit, I guess doesn't matter one way or the other.

Jesus, any other character could with such a long running history doing a specific thing MIGHT get some credability for doing it along the way, not Wolverine..

What a bunch of Bullocks.

Wolverine has a better chance of taking this fight in h2h than not, with the club eh dunno, but I doubt it'd make THAT much of a difference. Kali's been quite the jobber.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The contest of (bullshit) champions incident then? Where Thor could fly, Rogue could knock out -everyone- with one touch and Hercules was knocked by a alien-stimulated berserker rage Wolverine?

Both incident seem a bit iffy to me.

Just tell the Wolverine fans to **** off.

And Wolverine feats for that matter. Anything that decimates the predetermined image in your head of a guy who can't beat anyone who isn't quadriplegic and already on their deathbed.

Originally posted by leonidas
😆

that usually works . . .

what we need is a simple, on-panel battle between herc and logan where herc demolishes him. sometimes i think if we can get that, the world would be right again.

Yes, because that would then take precedence over the many many times Wolverine's faired in a superior fashion over bricks..?

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Who has Kalibak jobbed to that is on Wolvies level?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Who has Kalibak jobbed to that is on Wolvies level?

Dan Turpin....

People shouldn't be so bent out of shape over Contest of Champions II. At that time, Hercules was stripped of his immortality and had his power greatly diminished.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dan Turpin....

Was this the human Kalibak? Even the human Kalibak would find it hard to lose to Turpin if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Allankles
Was this the human Kalibak? Even the human Kalibak would find it hard to lose to Turpin if he wanted to.

It wasn't so much a real loss. If memory serves Kalibak (regular Kalibak) was on a roof top and Turpin shoved a grenade down his throat and pushed him off. He wasn't really seriously hurt but Turpin won by default and it was pretty embarrassing to Kalibak.

So, that's it? On average, Kalibak doesn't job that hard and he wasn't in his true form.

Like someone else said it will go a lot like the fight with Ulik (that's assuming Kalibak doesn't have his club) except Thor won't be there to save Wolvy.

So did Wolverine lose?