LOL. Please list some feats abhi of anything a post-crisis sun-dipped Supes has done that even begin to compare to the multitude of insane feats that pre-crisis Superman was doing on an almost weekly basis. I'll save you the troube, YOU CAN'T, because there are none. Hell, even Superman 1,000, 000 is not on pre-crisis Supeman-level. The sundipped Supes from OWAW would get his ass handed to him on a platter by pre-crisis Superman. Moving Warworld and destroying armies of imperiex drones are things that PC Superman could do in his sleep.
Well, considering that OWAW sundipped Superman wasn't around long enough to have many feats at all compared to pre-crisis Supes of course he won't have as many low feats. But anything that OWAW Supes did PC Superman would laugh at. Anyone who thinks that OWAW Supes would be more than an annoyance to PC Supes is delusional.
I can actually picture PC Superman doing this.
Imperiex: I have the power of the big bang within me!!
Superman: Great Scott! My super-allergies are acting up agaiiiiAaahhh-ChooooMmmMmm!!!
Imperiex: Argghhhh!
:Imperiex gets flung to the beginning of time:
Narration: and that is how the universe started. With a supersneeze...
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I can actually picture PC Superman doing this.Imperiex: I have the power of the big bang within me!!
Superman: Great Scott! My super-allergies are acting up agaiiiiAaahhh-ChooooMmmMmm!!!
Imperiex: Argghhhh!
:Imperiex gets flung to the beginning of time:
Narration: and that is how the universe started. With a supersneeze...
😂 that's good.
Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Please list some feats abhi of anything a post-crisis sun-dipped Supes has done that even begin to compare to the multitude of insane feats that pre-crisis Superman was doing on an almost weekly basis. I'll save you the troube, YOU CAN'T, because there are none. Hell, even Superman 1,000, 000 is not on pre-crisis Supeman-level. The sundipped Supes from OWAW would get his ass handed to him on a platter by pre-crisis Superman. Moving Warworld and destroying armies of imperiex drones are things that PC Superman could do in his sleep.
But I'll eagerly await your well thought out response where you show me Pre crisis Superman overpowering a Galactus level being aka B13 with an abstract's power and having him beg not to kill him.
As it is, we have already seen two pre crisis kryptonians interact with post crisis superman. Guess how that went.
Originally posted by Star428
Well, considering that OWAW sundipped Superman wasn't around long enough to have many feats at all compared to pre-crisis Supes of course he won't have as many low feats. But anything that OWAW Supes did PC Superman would laugh at. Anyone who thinks that OWAW Supes would be more than an annoyance to PC Supes is delusional.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Sundipped Superman was said to be able to kill Vera Black with the Worlogog.
So why did you word it this way? It should be "Sundipped Superman killed Vera Black with the Worlogog". Since, if someone merely said he could do it, it is irrelevant. People in comic say people can do all sorts of stuff.
For all of PC Superman's high feats people bring up, almost none of them revolve around another being.
Okay, so was any of what you just said any attempt to disprove anything about PC Superman or..what? Feats are feats. If people don't like them then do not use the character in a rumble, but if the character is to be used we don't discount them because he lacks some "character A punches character B" feats.
Originally posted by h1a8Do you know how many more times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb by people weaker or the same level as thanos? Do you know how many more times Superman has been KO'd by forces weaker or the same level as thanos? Do you know how many more times Superman has been TP'd compared to Thanos. We go by comics.. and comics have Thanos CLEARLY above superman going by the averaging of all feats. It's so clear it's not even worth talking about. Superman has been chumped more times than Thanos has appeared in comics. There is simply no getting around that fact.
imperiex had the power of thousands of galaxies. Superman overpowered this force. In other words, Superman overpowered thousands of galaxies worth of power.Superman survived singularity without any damage. Thanos did not. Every Herald survived fights with Tyrant. PG Thor wasn't more than twice as powerful as his original self. Superman is still way stronger than 2x Thor if we go by feats.
A normal Supes will beat Thanos because he will see him moving in slow to still motion the moment the bell rings.
Originally posted by SurturSince my hard drive is currently not on my person I'll downplay that into a pure statement. However all that means is that the only two times to my recollection that Superman sundipped he overpowered planetary propelling tech at the least which was backed by Imperiex's power, and being said to kill a Worlogog user. Whether or not that is his power level, that's still a high average to overcome.
So why did you word it this way? It should be "Sundipped Superman killed Vera Black with the Worlogog". Since, if someone merely said he could do it, it is irrelevant. People in comic say people can do all sorts of stuff.Okay, so was any of what you just said any attempt to disprove anything about PC Superman or..what? Feats are feats. If people don't like them then do not use the character in a rumble, but if the character is to be used we don't discount them because he lacks some "character A punches character B" feats.
OK, let's play it your way. Superman doesn't need showings against direct beings. So let's actually get into the meat of that then.
I would like you to name PC Superman's top 5 feats please. Which shouldn't be hard since he was around for a long time. And if you could, I would enjoy a summary of why these impress you.
Here's a template for you to make it easy. Once I figure out what impressed you I can then figure out his impressiveness as a whole. Teach me if you would. Hell if you want, you can go to 10 which I couldn't stop you from doing if I tried.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThanos has been pretty much have low showings too. From Gamora to Thor Anyway here are facts.
Do you know how many more times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb by people weaker or the same level as thanos? Do you know how many more times Superman has been KO'd by forces weaker or the same level as thanos? Do you know how many more times Superman has been TP'd compared to Thanos. We go by comics.. and comics have Thanos CLEARLY above superman going by the averaging of all feats. It's so clear it's not even worth talking about. Superman has been chumped more times than Thanos has appeared in comics. There is simply no getting around that fact.
1. Superman is strong enough to significantly effect Thanos with punches or pressure point attacks.
2. Superman has the speed and reflexes to view Thanos moving in slow motion.
3. Superman has shown resistance against tp.
4. Superman has freeze breath that can slow Thanos even further.
Originally posted by h1a8
2. Superman has the speed and reflexes to view Thanos moving in slow motion.
If you know about "The Fallen One" ...
then you know he's empowered by "black matter" and thus "speed" is one of his specialties.
I have to flip some pages to find the statement but basically he always travels FTL.
Before Thanos beat em, ... they squared off, (like a "ready-set-go" at kmc)
and he came at Thanos with rage, (one would assume full speed)
and they were it seems 10-20 feet apart.
Thanos reacted (lifted his hand) and caught em in an energy field before he reached Thanos:
Thanos also tanked a gas giant at ground zero two pages later. Completely un-affected.
Originally posted by Mr MasterLOL, you should stick with the abstract beings. Just kidding. I'm glad you get in on lower level being debates.
I don't think Thanos' reaction speed is getting enuff credit.If you know about "The Fallen One" ...
then you know he's empowered by "black matter" and thus "speed" is one of his specialties.
I have to flip some pages to find the statement but basically he always travels FTL.Before Thanos beat em, ... they squared off, (like a "ready-set-go" at kmc)
and he came at Thanos with rage, (one would assume full speed)
and they were it seems 10-20 feet apart.Thanos reacted (lifted his hand) and caught em in an energy field before he reached Thanos:
Thanos also tanked a gas giant at ground zero two pages later. Completely un-affected.
Two things.
1. No one in comics simply go ftl instantly. Everyone accelerates to that speed. Top speed has nothing to do with quickness or acceleration. Superman can obtain Insane speeds in a very small fraction of a second. Fallen one may be able to achieve ftl travel, but after how many seconds? It even took Surfer several seconds to reach ftl speeds in one instance. I accept that Fallen one achieved bullet speed before Thanos stopped him, but not more without proof. And he doesn't always travel at ftl speeds. Where do you get that connection from black matter from?
2. I'm arguing Superman's perception of Thanos and not Thanos reactions. Superman isn't a dumb bullet that bullrushes blindly. If he approaches Thanos using speed and see Thanos raise his hand in slow motion then Superman would simply adjust accordingly.
