Who can beat Zoom?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah. Which seems to be what he -always- does. Even when he's fighting to win, he makes them suffer or does something of the like. Xavier has to be taken unconscious instantly, or it's telepathy-time. And Zoom is like, the only high herald without any sort of telepathic defense.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Oh he has defense. He can move faster than thought.

He can traverse galaxies in like a second 😐

So do you feel it would be that way bloodlusted as well? Just clarifying.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
So can Xavier's telepathy, a hell of a lot faster.

He can traverse galaxies in like a second 😐

Remember, Barry just wtf dodged MM's telepathy

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You think telepathy will beat speedster?

Remember, Barry just wtf dodged MM's telepathy

Zoom has no way of doing that because his powers as we all know isn't based on speed.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Zoom has no way of doing that because his powers as we all know isn't based on speed.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You think telepathy will beat speedster?

Remember, Barry just wtf dodged MM's telepathy

Barry did not just dodge MM's telepathy, Barry beat the shit out of Hal because of MM's telepathy.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Hmm... Interesting
You are correct, but he is still faster then Xavier and will beat him

I could see that happening. Zoom just oneshots him but then what someone else brought up... he likes to smack people around a bit. If Zoom doesn't kill him and allows X to get his bearings he is gonna turn into a mindraped puppet.

But I do lean toward Zoom killing X before X gets the chance. I mean it's kmc not some comic book.

I feel like this happened but has X every put up Psi armor instinctively? Or does charles constantly aware of all the minds in his vicinity? This could change the outcome of the battle.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Barry did not just dodge MM's telepathy, Barry beat the shit out of Hal because of MM's telepathy.

X would be able to do that easily to Zoom, make him eat hiw own feet. (not like he would do that but he could if he wanted to..) Anyway you think X would be able to mind**** Zoom before zoom lands a hit? I fell like Charles is always awre of the minds in his vicinity?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
X would be able to do that easily to Zoom, make him eat hiw own feet. (not like he would do that but he could if he wanted to..) Anyway you think X would be able to mind**** Zoom before zoom lands a hit? I fell like Charles is always awre of the minds in his vicinity?

Naw, if Zoom wanted to take Charles out, Charles would go down right away. But in a fight, odds are that Zooms would try to teach him a lesson or somesuch.

Who else could beat Zoom under those conditions? In your opinion?

zoom moves a whole lot faster than 'normal' time moves. so unless xavier's mental abilities are THAT fast as well [rhetorical comment: i know they aren't] then zoom is going to strike him with a superman-level+ punch, before he even has time to register that there is a fight happening.

in a nutshell: the only forum outcome of a zoom/xavier 'battle', would end in a steaming pile of cripple parts pouring out of a wheelchair. if that.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
The Runner, Black Racer, Despero, Etc.

Originally posted by Galan007
zoom moves a whole lot faster than 'normal' time moves. so unless xavier's mental abilities are THAT fast as well [rhetorical comment: i know they aren't] then zoom is going to strike him with a superman-level+ punch, before he even has time to register that there is a fight happening.

in a nutshell: the only forum outcome of a zoom/xavier 'battle', would end in a steaming pile of cripple parts pouring out of a wheelchair. if that.

Couple of things.

- I wonder how many of Zoom's punches are superman level punches. Did Power Girl take a million of them? Did the random Amazon take a hundred? Zoom would never -ever- hit Xavier with a superman level punch. He hit Batman and Superman an equal amount of times, were all his punches the same strength?

- Xavier hasn't been in a wheelchair for some time.

- CIS would be on.

- Zoom's mind can still be reached by Xavier. No matter what degree of control Zoom has over himself, he still exists in our timeline.

- Zoom can not tell if he is being attacked by a telepath. He can not -see- telepathy.

The only way Zoom would win against Xavier would be if he wanted to win right away. I've never seen Zoom be in a fight where he wanted to take out his opponent right away. Zoom would most likely not be in a fight if he wasn't trying to teach Xavier something. Zoom's personality is the only thing that keeps him from owning everybody right away and he has his personality here.

Barry did not just dodge MM's telepathy, Barry beat the shit out of Hal because of MM's telepathy.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Which is why later on, it didn't work. Barry prepared!!

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
and yet Barry has still been hit by telepathy dozens of times! And what do you know, one showing versus a hundred!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't remember those times 😛

Barry is also a horrible example since he would fight to win and knock out Xavier instantly. Zoom would never fight to win, it would be no point in it. How can he teach Xavier a lesson if he's unconscious? (Inb4rapejoke)

So does that mean in your opinion that characters like Thor or Surfer could beat him for the majority if he were CIS on? Not saying you said that, just wondering.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So does that mean in your opinion that characters like Thor or Surfer could beat him for the majority if he were CIS on? Not saying you said that, just wondering.