Warrior madness Thor vs WW3 Black Adam (fist fight only)

Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know how powerful MM blast is? Did you see something it could not damage? If so, then how does the durability of that object or being compare to say Superman.

Also I caught you in some serious bias here. Remember characters have both high and low showings. But you choose to use the low ones when it fits you to get your character to win. Remember your debates with Sentry? You claimed he was so fast because of certain feats. But guess what? He has low showings that says his speed feats is an utter lie.

This is ww 3 Black Adam which means this is the showing we are going by. How don't you get it? It's one story arc and this is the only BA involved here.

Originally posted by h1a8
And many other high level energy blasts supposedly greater than HV blasts didn't. That means either HV>>>>Thor's energy beams or that it was PIS. Choose!

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not Thor here.

That sentence makes no sense.

BA is on par with regular thor both durability wise and strength wise. WM is thor ten times stronger than normal. the strength advantage for thor will be far to huge for BA to overcome. (unless of course u subscribe to h1a8s nonsense of Dc characters being millions fo time stronger than thor). He has no chance here at all.

Originally posted by Naija boy
BA is on par with regular thor both durability wise and strength wise. WM is thor ten times stronger than normal. the strength advantage for thor will be far to huge for BA to overcome. (unless of course u subscribe to h1a8s nonsense of Dc characters being millions fo time stronger than thor). He has no chance here at all.

Originally posted by Naija boy
BA is on par with regular thor both durability wise and strength wise. WM is thor ten times stronger than normal. the strength advantage for thor will be far to huge for BA to overcome. (unless of course u subscribe to h1a8s nonsense of Dc characters being millions fo time stronger than thor). He has no chance here at all.

"HV melted BA's face, so Thor definitely wins"... I love that argument. 😂

Newayz I think a lot of people are forgetting the ridiculously powerful team of heroes Black Adam steamrolled through. Other than comments made regarding WM Thor's power, what FEATS does he have that put him over WWIII Adam?

Originally posted by Merlyn
"HV melted BA's face, so Thor definitely wins"... I love that argument. 😂

Newayz I think a lot of people are forgetting the ridiculously powerful team of heroes Black Adam steamrolled through. Other than comments made regarding WM Thor's power, what FEATS does he have that put him over WWIII Adam?

You'd be hard pressed to argue against a normal Thor let alone one ten times as strong as he usually is. He'd easily break him in two. At twice his strength this becomes spite.

There's not much Thor has done in Warrior Madness. He entered it once and beat Adam Warlock (Or someone who resembles adam warlock) and that was it. The second time around it's debatable whether or not he truly did have Warrior Madness (Odin disagrees) but if it counts, then Thor beat Adam Warlock, Surfer and BRB. Not to mention beating up Pluto and Ares easily before that.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Newayz I think a lot of people are forgetting the ridiculously powerful team of heroes Black Adam steamrolled through. Other than comments made regarding WM Thor's power, what FEATS does he have that put him over WWIII Adam?

Black Adam didn't really defeat all of those heroes though, he held them off. They all took a good beating, but none of they were down and knocked out. 'sides, Alan Scott kept on trying to choke him and Dr.Light was standing in melee range. The teams Black Adam fought were not nearly as great as the sum of their parts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact remains BA didn't have one legit win against a true top tier. They all held back and he only managed to kill a few bums.

You'd be hard pressed to argue against a normal Thor let alone one ten times as strong as he usually is. He'd easily break him in two. At twice his strength this becomes spite.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Black Adam didn't really defeat all of those heroes though, he held them off. They all took a good beating, but none of they were down and knocked out. 'sides, Alan Scott kept on trying to choke him and Dr.Light was standing in melee range. The teams Black Adam fought were not nearly as great as the sum of their parts.

And from what you said, WM Thor hasn't done a thing on that level.

Yeah alan scott isnt even of superhuman strength. Not being touched by him h2h says little.

Ultimately BA showed himself to be a little superior to J'onn which is way below a thor whos beating surfer & BrB back to back

Originally posted by Merlyn
What did you expect BA to do when he's getting ganged up on? Spend time owing one character, before moving on to another? That may sound good on paper, but when you're getting ganged up on, you don't have time to deal with the others on an individual level, you have to smack one to the side and move on to the others. And no matter how you try to word it, BA pummeled through dozens of DC earths most powerful heroes. That is impressive regardless.

And from what you said, WM Thor hasn't done a thing on that level.

The hell are you talking about now? Never once did I make any comments about how he should have fought. Respond to what I actually write. My point was that none of the characters he faced properly utilized their powers. Alan Scott didn't even use his ring half the time, he was an old-man trying to choke Black Adam from behind. There's also a limit to how much numbers matter, like Guy Gardner said, their plan eventually became "just bury him" and they poured on.

Sheer number makes little difference when someone of that level is involved. It doesn't matter whether Beast Boy and Stargirl drops in, because they'll all be one-shotted. Some of the heroes do more harm then good when they start showing up. What the hell is Wildcat supposed to do? These were not earth's most powerful heroes for that matter. Guy Gardner and Alan Scott, the only really big-guns there did not really do anything. Manhunter faced him alone and that was close. Captain Marvel was the one who eventually ended all of it.

Thor beat Pluto, who could kill most of the heroes BA fought with little effort. He's a god damned Elder God.

Originally posted by Merlyn
You completely dodged my question.

What did you expect BA to do when he's getting ganged up on? Spend time owing one character, before moving on to another? That may sound good on paper, but when you're getting ganged up on, you don't have time to deal with the others on an individual level, you have to smack one to the side and move on to the others. And no matter how you try to word it, BA pummeled through dozens of DC earths most powerful heroes. That is impressive regardless.

And from what you said, WM Thor hasn't done a thing on that level.

Originally posted by Merlyn
"HV melted BA's face, so Thor definitely wins"... I love that argument. 😂

Newayz I think a lot of people are forgetting the ridiculously powerful team of heroes Black Adam steamrolled through. Other than comments made regarding WM Thor's power, what FEATS does he have that put him over WWIII Adam?

Yep. It's not the only time Adam fought a group of heroes. He did the same with the JSA. Hourman himself admited he couldn't stop him alone.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yep. It's not the only time Adam fought a group of heroes. He did the same with the JSA. Hourman himself admited he couldn't stop him alone.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yep. It's not the only time Adam fought a group of heroes. He did the same with the JSA. Hourman himself admited he couldn't stop him alone.

What the hell did Black Adam do that was impressive?

This was one of Black Adam's lowest showings. His durability took a serious dive, and his level of strength wasn't even impressive. His greatest feats were taking on Donna Troy, Power Girl and Atom Smasher, and that isn't actually impressive. Heck, John was stating that they were people stronger than him, and every blow of his was meant to kill and he wasn't holding back, and those chumps were still tanking his attacks.

Breaking Green Lantern bones when they charge at you to tackle you physically with no shields, is NOT impressive. Black Adam has impressed me a heck of a lot more in his fights with the JSA.

A ticked off Superman or normal Thor would put their fists through this Black Adam's face.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the hell did Black Adam do that was impressive?

This was one of Black Adam's lowest showings. His durability took a serious dive, and his level of strength wasn't even impressive. His greatest feats were taking on Donna Troy, Power Girl and Atom Smasher, and that isn't actually impressive. Heck, John was stating that they were people stronger than him, and every blow of his was meant to kill and he wasn't holding back, and those chumps were still tanking his attacks.

Breaking Green Lantern bones when they charge at you to tackle you physically with no shields, is NOT impressive. Black Adam has impressed me a heck of a lot more in his fights with the JSA.

A ticked off Superman or normal Thor would put their fists through this Black Adam's face.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see a ticked off Superman beating BA though.

I see him beating WW3 Black Adam.

Black Adam > WW3 Black Adam

Why do people have this notion that he was somehow superior to his normal self is beyond me. Green Arrow's arrows were sticking out of his arm and he was bleeding. His face was a mess from a few no name cannon fodder. His strength probably took a dive too, if the people who tanked his blows tanked blows that were meant to have all his strength behind it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I see him beating WW3 Black Adam.

Black Adam > WW3 Black Adam

Why do people have this notion that he was somehow superior to his normal self is beyond me. Green Arrow's arrows were sticking out of his arm and he was bleeding. His face was a mess from a few no name cannon fodder. His strength probably took a dive too, if the people who tanked his blows tanked blows that were meant to have all his strength behind it.

He was koing people left and right. Most top tiers can't just take on all these characters just blitzing him though. He also let MM off the hook and it later cost him.

Lots of contradictions in the books.

1.Yes it was stated that every blow Adam dealt was meant to kill, but we all that wasnt the case, considering a lot more ppl would have been dead. We need to throw that out the window.

2. It was mentioned in one book that Adam possessed the power of 7 gods, thus ppl saying he was powered up, yet in other books, that extra power(from Isis) he supposedly had, went back into the amulet immediately upon Isis's death. Flawed. Id rather believe its the latter considering there was a series that stated the power went back into the amulet.

I think Adam had a nice strength feat in throwing that navy carrier from Egypt all the way to Ny i think it was. I find that pretty impressive.