thor vs darkseid

Started by quanchi1125 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're not listening. If Darkseid uses an energy attack its the Omega Effect. The OE takes many forms: heat, concussive energy, molecular/energy manipulation, and even low level reality warping. The beams from his eyes are really finder beams, more like a laser pointer than the actual "bullet" so to speak. Once the finder beams reach their target the Omega Effect occurs. That's why Wonder Woman reflecting the beams and hurting Darkseid is bullshit, that's why Superman flying around and treating the OB like a guided missile to be used to hit Darkseid is bullshit. If the writers understood or cared about the OE they wouldn't have done that. Kirby certainly would never have the OE hurting Darkseid.
The oe has always been referred to as a power that emits from his eyes. Find me one instance where it's referred to as coming from his hands.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
There is a problem. DS would never Fight Thor hand to hand. He doesn't respect him enough to do so. he'd do Thor like he's done any other multi powered Threats such as Orion and IM. erase, bfr, Mind rape, etc.
He fought Orion hand to hand. Why can't Thor absorb the oe?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The oe has always been referred to as a power that emits from his eyes. Find me one instance where it's referred to as coming from his hands. He fought Orion hand to hand. Why can't Thor absorb the oe?

Every power he has is the work of the Omega Effect. Before he claimed it he was a nobody God on Desaad's level.
Besides what do you call the blast he used to incinerate the Anti-Monitor?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Every power he has is the work of the Omega Effect. Before he claimed it he was a nobody God on Desaad's level.
Besides what do you call the blast he used to incinerate the Anti-Monitor?
Tech as he pressed a button that used Luthor's unique energies to further weaken an already fatigued Am.

Various bios and comics have stated the oe and the beams come from his eyes. You have no proof and it hasn't erased anyone anyways through his hands. If anything you have downgraded the omega effect.

Can't Thor's hammer obsorb the omega beams?

Originally posted by BattleMage
Can't Thor's hammer obsorb the omega beams?
Yep. Ds's trump card is negated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yep. Ds's trump card is negated.

Idle speculation on your part I'm afraid. Until uru proves it can do that I'll call shenanigans on that whole can of worms you've tried to open.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tech as he pressed a button that used Luthor's unique energies to further weaken an already fatigued Am.

Various bios and comics have stated the oe and the beams come from his eyes. You have no proof and it hasn't erased anyone anyways through his hands. If anything you have downgraded the omega effect.


The Omega Effect isn't just an eraser. Its also a pencil, as in it can create, transport, add, subtract, act as heat vision, concussive force and it flows through his entire body. He IS the Omega Force. I don't see why it needs to be stated that the OE comes from his hands when its clear its an energy attack and Darkseid has never used an energy attack that wasn't derived from the OE.
Besides Luthor didn't have the power in him to do that, it was clearly Darkseid channeling his power through Luthor's eyes. The tech helped but it was more like a targeting system to focus Darkseid's power.

So are these the "Omega Effect" Or powers becuase of the Omega Effect?

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/action638-2122horus.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/adv459_46_ng.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Mister_Miracle_Specialv1_001Imbie21.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/ng_15_p15.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/NewGodsv310-20.jpg

My point really is that had DS used any of these energy blast, like the one he used to crumble the then nearly omnipotent Source wall, heat Vision wouldn't have blocked a thing. So According to Forum rules, Were PIS is off, DS would use his best blast to take out an opponent.

Who's stronger and more powerful I wonder?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
So are these the "Omega Effect" Or powers becuase of the Omega Effect?

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/action638-2122horus.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/adv459_46_ng.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Mister_Miracle_Specialv1_001Imbie21.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/ng_15_p15.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/NewGodsv310-20.jpg

My point really is that had DS used any of these energy blast, like the one he used to crumble the then nearly omnipotent Source wall, heat Vision wouldn't have blocked a thing. So According to Forum rules, Were PIS is off, DS would use his best blast to take out an opponent.


Good point. So let me ask this then: could Thor tank a blast that shattered the Source Wall?

I don't know what the hell you people are saying , but I want too.

Originally posted by jayce78
I don't know what the hell you people are saying , but I want too.
I LIKE THAT ^ 😆

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Good point. So let me ask this then: could Thor tank a blast that shattered the Source Wall?

Did DS actually do that on his own though? I see DS and one other guy so was it established somewhere else in the book that it was just DS blasting through the wall?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did DS actually do that on his own though? I see DS and one other guy so was it established somewhere else in the book that it was just DS blasting through the wall?

It was high father. Other beings who were powerful enough on their own to bust out of the source wall were Promethian Giants.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
It was high father. Other beings who were powerful enough on their own to bust out of the source wall were Promethian Giants.

So are you sure it was just DS blasting? If so, how?

Originally posted by darthgoober
So are you sure it was just DS blasting? If so, how?

Well its heavily implied he did most of the work. Later when Highfather tried to repeat the feat without Darkseid he required the aid of Zeus, Ares, Jove, and Odin to replace Darkseid.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Idle speculation on your part I'm afraid. Until uru proves it can do that I'll call shenanigans on that whole can of worms you've tried to open.
WW's bracelets have done so as have Superman's hv. I'd say it's more than a safe bet.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Omega Effect isn't just an eraser. Its also a pencil, as in it can create, transport, add, subtract, act as heat vision, concussive force and it flows through his entire body. He IS the Omega Force. I don't see why it needs to be stated that the OE comes from his hands when its clear its an energy attack and Darkseid has never used an energy attack that wasn't derived from the OE.
Besides Luthor didn't have the power in him to do that, it was clearly Darkseid channeling his power through Luthor's eyes. The tech helped but it was more like a targeting system to focus Darkseid's power.
The point is the demonstrations you gave functioned like normal concussive energy blasts. We have never seen Darkseid erase anyone through blasts from his hands.

Lol.

Thor isn't able to deflect the OE? Heat Vision did it. Diana's bracelets did it. Now Mjolnir can't?

Mjolnir will absorb it, amp it a hundred fold, and redirect it right back at Darkseid.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Thor isn't able to deflect the OE? Heat Vision did it. Diana's bracelets did it. Now Mjolnir can't?

Mjolnir will absorb it, amp it a hundred fold, and redirect it right back at Darkseid.

I know. Darkseid thought Superman gave him a hard time Thor is built to beat him. His hammer negates the oe which he relies on far too much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know. Darkseid thought Superman gave him a hard time Thor is built to beat him. His hammer negates the oe which he relies on far too much.

True enough.

If you ask me, from all the times Superman's knocked him around he doesn't rely on it enough. Darkseid is Superman, what Loki is to Thor at this point.