Elektra and Catwoman vs Lady Shiva and Black Cat

Started by SamZED3 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
No she was enhanced then, Kingpin gave her the upgrade when she thought she had rid herself of the luck powers, taking down sabretooth was her big test.

And yeah it's funny, and yes Sabretooth has always been a mutant, but NO you simply can't use it as evidence of Felecia's ability in combat as it completely ignores the context of when it was written. Again, to say it has any relivence here means you would think she capable of doing that to Sabretooth AFTER powers were written into his character.... it's absurd on every level.. Especially when he had 2 month old lacerations on his face that STILL hadn't healed in that fight.. WTF.

I personally do not think she can last against Sabertooth a minute, let alone defeat him, so ofcourse I wouldnt seriously use it as an evidence, but it looks like writers desided to make her victory over mutant Creed canon seeing how she mentioned that to Rhino, this is kind of like Squirrel Girl defeating Thanos. It happened but it should not be taken seriously.

Pretty much my point.

All she said was that she took on Sabretooth there though, there was never a real retcon on the story, his powers etc were never mentioned. That's important to remember. I never said the even didn't happen just that it has no merit. Her recollecting that it happened doesn't give it merit.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Black Cat and Catwoman are useless in this fight.

I give Lady Shiva the nod in skills if she really has beaten batman and trained Batgirl.

I give Elektra the Nod in agility, weapons and other powers.

Elektra wins.

Elektra is more skilled. She punks Taskmaster like he's a joke. She routinely screws with Daredevil. She took down Bullseye while drugged, injured, sleep deprived, and poisoned. She has better accuracy, hand to hand, armed combat, speed, stealth, strength, and durability feats.

Shiva is completely outclassed. Her only amazing feat was her Shadowdragon encounter which was total PIS because she beat a fully armored Superman level villain with a stick...

Originally posted by jinzin
No... She can't... unless he was completely depowered and she had upgrades vastly superior to her common representation..... Like... oh I dunno WHEN THEY FOUGHT...

You seriously think Felecia could take CURRENT SABES? Neverming mutant massacre version? OOOOOOKay... you're flat out delusional. 😐

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Originally posted by jinzin
Pretty much my point.

All she said was that she took on Sabretooth there though, there was never a real retcon on the story, his powers etc were never mentioned. That's important to remember. I never said the even didn't happen just that it has no merit. Her recollecting that it happened doesn't give it merit.

I remember her saying something like "ive defeated opponents far more dangerous than you" or something like that and a flashback of Sabertooth, I dont think that would've been something to brag about unless they meant Sabertooth with powers, i mean she fought Carnage before but she'd mention a powerless Sabertooth? I think that was a weak attempt on writers side to give her some respect..

Originally posted by Konton
Elektra is more skilled. She punks Taskmaster like he's a joke. She routinely screws with Daredevil. She took down Bullseye while drugged, injured, sleep deprived, and poisoned. She has better accuracy, hand to hand, armed combat, speed, stealth, strength, and durability feats.

Shiva is completely outclassed. Her only amazing feat was her Shadowdragon encounter which was total PIS because she beat a fully armored Superman level villain with a stick...


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Originally posted by SamZED
I remember her saying something like "ive defeated opponents far more dangerous than you" or something like that and a flashback of Sabertooth, I dont think that would've been something to brag about unless they meant Sabertooth with powers, i mean she fought Carnage before but she'd mention a powerless Sabertooth? I think that was a weak attempt on writers side to give her some respect..

Yeah, VERY weak given how she was crapping herself in the same instance. 😬

Meh I'd put almost any half credible mook above the likes of Rhino powers or not, unfortunately..

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah, VERY weak given how she was crapping herself in the same instance. 😬

Meh I'd put almost any half credible mook above the likes of Rhino powers or not, unfortunately..

lol yeah, but he's getting better I think, he held his own against wrecking crew for a while recently. Ofcourse nobody takes BC beating ST seriously, but it certanly can be used as a joke argument in Black Cat vs threads.. 😄

Originally posted by Konton
Elektra is more skilled. She punks Taskmaster like he's a joke. She routinely screws with Daredevil. She took down Bullseye while drugged, injured, sleep deprived, and poisoned. She has better accuracy, hand to hand, armed combat, speed, stealth, strength, and durability feats.

Shiva is completely outclassed. Her only amazing feat was her Shadowdragon encounter which was total PIS because she beat a fully armored Superman level villain with a stick...

PIS? Or just a feat for Shiva that you are dismissing? He isn't a superman villian because of how powerful he is. It's just because of how skilled he is. She outskilled him.

Originally posted by SamZED
lol yeah, but he's getting better I think, he held his own against wrecking crew for a while recently. Ofcourse nobody takes BC beating ST seriously, but it certanly can be used as a joke argument in Black Cat vs threads.. 😄

SO IT SHALL BE!

Black Cat > Sabretooth > Wendigo...

Team one has NO CHANCE! NO CHANCE!

Originally posted by jinzin
SO IT SHALL BE!

Black Cat > Sabretooth > Wendigo...

Team one has NO CHANCE! NO CHANCE!

Now you're talking. 😄

Sorry, I was under Elektra's .... Hypnosis.. yyyyeah...

Originally posted by Zeuodin
PIS? Or just a feat for Shiva that you are dismissing? He isn't a superman villian because of how powerful he is. It's just because of how skilled he is. She outskilled him.

Um, no. He's a Superman level villain because of his battle suit... which grants him light speed movement. He was wearing this suit when he encountered Shiva, and she took it apart with a stick. PIS.