Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The hell is this?Thor has a solid strength, durability and stamina advantage (I don't recall any endurance feats from Diana that can match Thor's.). His on her level in terms of hand to hand skill.
No. Yes. Yes. Hell no.
She'd lose every single time to Thor in a fist fight.
Not even.
Now that that is out of the way. This thread is serious spite. She's already beaten Hercules and is superior to him in most ways, but he'd still give her a fight. Thor could definitely take plenty of wins from her. She'd stand no chance against both of them.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The hell is this?Thor has a solid strength, durability and stamina advantage (I don't recall any endurance feats from Diana that can match Thor's.). His on her level in terms of hand to hand skill.
She'd lose every single time to Thor in a fist fight.
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Diana is faster. Comparable in strength and durability. Stamina I'm not sure about. She's easily his superior in hand to hand.
I say she has a solid majority on him in h2h.
He definitely puts her down if they both have their full powersets though.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
No. Yes. Yes. Hell no.
Yes, he does have a solid strength advantage. What does she have that says otherwise?
Yes he is on her level skill wise. What actual hand to hand combat feats does she have, to put her so far above his level? Her greatest feat as far as I can tell, is Batman's lip service. Well, Thor's got that from Captain America, so yea.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Not even.
Yes she would. A fist fight against an opponent with every physical advantage, excluding speed and on her level in terms of skill? She'd lose to either Thor or a clear headed Superman in a fist fight every single time. Not saying she wouldn't put up a good fight, or anything of the sort. A fist fight is just that, a fist fight, they stand there, and trade blows. Diana would land more blows but that's about it.
Originally posted by Konton
😕Diana is faster. Comparable in strength and durability. Stamina I'm not sure about. She's easily his superior in hand to hand.
I say she has a solid majority on him in h2h.
He definitely puts her down if they both have their full powersets though.
Never said she wasn't. She has faster body movement, and has superior combat speed. All that means is that if it was a fist fight, she'd land more hits. Thor has the reflexes to mean that a speed advantage wouldn't mean much.
No, not really. Thor trumps her in both strength and durability feats as far I've seen. We can compare feats if you like.
Thor's fought Zeus for months. Fought against Storm Giant Armies for a year straight and other feats off the top of my head. He was willing to fight Mephisto in his realm for all of Eternity, and Mephisto chickened out because he knew Thor would be capable of doing so. I mean no rest, or anything of the sort as far as we saw.
Why on Earth does she get a solid majority on him in hand to hand?
Thor's stronger, more durable by a fair amount, has more stamina as far as I have seen, on her level in terms of hand to hand skill and from what I've seen from both parties? They are probably on par, but Thor has more feats in hand to hand showings without powers.
She's faster. That's great, but a fist fight or a slug fest really nullifies a speed advantage. She'd land more hits, that's just about it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, he does have a solid strength advantage. What does she have that says otherwise?Yes he is on her level skill wise. What actual hand to hand combat feats does she have, to put her so far above his level? Her greatest feat as far as I can tell, is Batman's lip service. Well, Thor's got that from Captain America, so yea.
Yes she would. A fist fight against an opponent with every physical advantage, excluding speed and on her level in terms of skill? She'd lose to either Thor or a clear headed Superman in a fist fight every single time. Not saying she wouldn't put up a good fight, or anything of the sort. A fist fight is just that, a fist fight, they stand there, and trade blows. Diana would land more blows but that's about it.
I really don't know what he has that would make you say otherwise. The strength difference between the two of them is not that great. If she can hit hard enough to hurt Superman, who is stronger and more durable than Thor imo, then I think she has all the strength she needs.
How often do we see Thor sparring with great martial artists? How often do we hear it mentioned the dozens of forms of armed and unarmed combat that he has mastered? Has Captain America called Thor the greatest melee fighter on Earth? You can't dismiss that just because you might not like it.
And according to the stipulations of the OP, this is not a slug fest. They aren't just standing there trading blows. What that means is not only will Diana get more blows in, she will also get hit less due to her better reflexes, combat speed and better skill. And you're not dealing with someone who doesn't hit hard enough that those extra blows won't make a difference. If this were a slugfest then I would give it to Thor. He's probably more durable. It isn't, however.
But again, this thread is spite b/c I don't see her beating both of them.