Colossus vs Lobo

Started by SamZED6 pages
SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by redhotrash
I dont use the quote button so no one feels singled out when I comment on the pure obsurdity of their claim. Dont want to be considered a E-bully or anything. But yeah, Lobo is a Superman villain, with attributes that place him as such. Wolverine has no place even talking to Lobo. I really hope we arent using fanvoted fights as proof of skill on here. You do realize that Wolverine, being arguably the most popular characters in comics at time, wouldve beaten Superman as well if we went down that route...
Again, im not talking about the fanvoted comicbook fight, im talking KMC vs forum. Being a superman villain doesnt automatically make you > anyone. Sasquatch or Hulk are > Lobo if you ask me, and Logan gives them a fight and wins sometimes. Dont see what's so absurd about him having a shot against Lobo, concidering some of his advantages.

The MISTER Get mad if ya want.

Originally posted by SamZED
Next time you feel like calling someone stupid at least bother to use the quote button and address it properly instead of throwing a dumb random insulting post. Also if you read my post you'd see that I only said that the fight is not necessarily a PIS because most of opponents Wolverine fights and beats on daily basis are in Lobo's league, some are even his superior.

Fair enough.


The idea that Wolverine can hang with lobo in any way, IS STUPID. 😉

Was that proper enough? 😮‍💨

redhotrash Senior Member

When exactly has Wolverine beaten the Hulk? And no, Sasquatch is not greater than Lobo, have you actually read something with Lobo in it?

The MISTER Get mad if ya want.
Originally posted by SamZED
Again, im not talking about the fanvoted comicbook fight, im talking KMC vs forum. Being a superman villain doesnt automatically make you > anyone. Sasquatch or Hulk are > Lobo if you ask me, and Logan gives them a fight and wins sometimes. Dont see what's so absurd about him having a shot against Lobo, concidering some of his advantages.

Lex Luthor is a superman villian so of course you're right about that not meaning anything strength-wise. Lobo takes full force attacks from superman and laughs. That means a whole lot of something.

also boneclaw wolverines healing factor is inferior to lobos he had no advantages in their fight.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by The MISTER
Lex Luthor is a superman villian so of course you're right about that not meaning anything strength-wise. Lobo takes full force attacks from superman and laughs. That means a whole lot of something.

also boneclaw wolverines healing factor is inferior to lobos he had no advantages in their fight.

Originally posted by The MISTER
The idea that Wolverine can hang with lobo in any way, IS STUPID. 😉

Was that proper enough? 😮‍💨


Boneclaw Wolverine's hf is actually better than when he has adamantium, so this is up to debate. Also "hang with Lobo" and "kick his ass in a bar fight and smoke a cigar afterwards" are not one and the same things. Wolverine can definitely hang with Lobo.

Originally posted by redhotrash
When exactly has Wolverine beaten the Hulk? And no, Sasquatch is not greater than Lobo, have you actually read something with Lobo in it?
Yeah, I have. And I know for a fact that Wolverine's claws can cut through his skin and that Lobo is no Superman in terms of speed, Logan is quicker than him, that alone makes it possible for him to hang with Lobo and cause some damage and Wolverine doesnt need to beat the Hulk in order for it to make sense.

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean the mini? That hardly qualifies as a fight from what I remember. As I recall, the Hulk easily wrecked Colossus and put him down nearly instantly when pissed off. Colossus jumped a calm Hulk, and pounded on him. That resorted in a temporary knock out (Which can be debated apparently as playing possum.). So that proves, that with relentlessness, playing smart, he can beat a calm savage Hulk, and back in the day a calm Savage Hulk and Colossus were neither a Class 100. Good showing for Colossus' prowess but that's about it. It was made pretty clear, that the moment the Hulk gets angry, he wrecks him.

Yea he went toe to toe with Gladiator for a few panels. Lost, but decent showing. Unfortunately like the Hulk his strength is relative, and Claremont's Gladiator was the weakest level of Gladiator I've seen.

Eh? The X-men's Juggernaut has beat down Colossus every time I've seen them fight. The only way Colossus survives is by out smarting him and staying out of reach.

When has he fought Hyperion? And if he has, which one? They've all been able to hurt him clearly.

That's cool. Colossus > Average dude. Not really a feat.

he fought hyperion and managed to knock him down
and i will say it again theres only a hand full of people on earth stronger than colossus

The MISTER Get mad if ya want.

Originally posted by SamZED
Boneclaw Wolverine's hf is actually better than when he has adamantium, so this is up to debate. Also "hang with Lobo" and "kick his ass in a bar fight and smoke a cigar afterwards" are not one and the same things. Wolverine can definitely hang with Lobo.

Yeah, I have. And I know for a fact that Wolverine's claws can cut through his skin and that Lobo is no Superman in terms of speed, Logan is quicker than him, that alone makes it possible for him to hang with Lobo and cause some damage and Wolverine doesnt need to beat the Hulk in order for it to make sense.

Lobos healing factor is superior to boneclaw wolverines being able to regenerate from a drop of blood (don't take my word for it theres proof of this online) also he is immortal having been rejected from heaven and hell after slaughtering gods in the heavens and kicking the crap out of the devil in hell. Wolverine is not in his league in any way form or fashion. Without his claws you could hold him prisoner with so much duct tape.

nicamarvin Restricted

Originally posted by SamZED
Boneclaw Wolverine's hf is actually better than when he has adamantium, so this is up to debate...
wolverine is Made to Hang with Bricks, infact he will embarrass most of them(except Juggs)..... 😮‍💨

redhotrash Senior Member
Originally posted by SamZED
Again, im not talking about the fanvoted comicbook fight, im talking KMC vs forum. Being a superman villain doesnt automatically make you > anyone. Sasquatch or Hulk are > Lobo if you ask me, and Logan gives them a fight and wins sometimes. Dont see what's so absurd about him having a shot against Lobo, concidering some of his advantages.

Here, educate yourself http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t391529.html
Page 1 he survives a nuclear blast, and throughout he destroys planets, shows impressive speed feats, fights and defeats Superman, defeats multiple other super heros, and regenerates from a pool of blood or a finger. He shows genius level intelligence, and a very versatile power set. If he can laugh off a explosion that destroys a planet, take Superman punches with ease, and kill his own writers only to dictate the plot himself, he can can beat a guy who cant even hang with the top tier of marvel earth.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

People are actually suggesting Wolverine can beat Lobo?

redhotrash Senior Member

lol, just wait for the 2 main Wolverine fanboys to get wind of this, then you'll see.

The MISTER Get mad if ya want.

Originally posted by nicamarvin
wolverine is Made to Hang with Bricks, infact he will embarrass most of them(except Juggs)..... 😮‍💨
Wolverine is made to hang with MARVEL'S bricks....But we're talkin about Superman level strength which dwarfs marvel's strongmen. The rhino would give collosus a fight that would last a while and collosus was almost killed with a crowbar in the secret wars. Wolverine could probably kill collosus...given his powers and abilities and nothing more. 😮‍💨

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean the mini? That hardly qualifies as a fight from what I remember. As I recall, the Hulk easily wrecked Colossus and put him down nearly instantly when pissed off.
In their first fight Colossus was holding back his punches as he states in a round about way. In the 2nd fight Colossus uses his skill and strength to kayo the Hulk.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Colossus jumped a calm Hulk, and pounded on him. That resorted in a temporary knock out (Which can be debated apparently as playing possum.).

I recall Hulk jumping a unarmored Piotr. Literally.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

So that proves, that with relentlessness, playing smart, he can beat a calm savage Hulk, and back in the day a calm Savage Hulk and Colossus were neither a Class 100. Good showing for Colossus' prowess but that's about it. It was made pretty clear, that the moment the Hulk gets angry, he wrecks him.
So you're saying Hulk had to play possum to beat Colossus?

redhotrash Senior Member

Also I hate the term brick, since no one seems to have a clear definition of what a brick is. Namor is not a brick. Superman is not a brick. Lobo is not a brick.

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by redhotrash
When exactly has Wolverine beaten the Hulk? And no, Sasquatch is not greater than Lobo, have you actually read something with Lobo in it?

Correct, Lobo is superior. Also when did Wolverine beat Sasquatch?

Originally posted by Juntai
People are actually suggesting Wolverine can beat Lobo?

I hope not 😬

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by redhotrash
Namor regularly beats the Hulk, look in his respect thread. But people love to ignore that fact on here.
He don't beat the Hulk by overpowering him. He beats him when the Hulk is out of his element. Hulk in the water cannot move like he can on land but Namor can probably move better in the water than he can on land. So it's a no brainer than Namor can beat the Hulk in the ocean.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by The MISTER
Lobos healing factor is superior to boneclaw wolverines being able to regenerate from a drop of blood (don't take my word for it theres proof of this online) also he is immortal having been rejected from heaven and hell after slaughtering gods in the heavens and kicking the crap out of the devil in hell. Wolverine is not in his league in any way form or fashion. Without his claws you could hold him prisoner with so much duct tape.
Duct tape? 🤨 Wolverine has shattered metal chains with his bare hands and knocked down metal doors with his kicks before. And he has a clear speed advantage over Lobo, also being immortal in comics does not = being unbeatalbe. Deadpool is immortal. So what. Plus Lobo's HF just like Wolverine's goes up and down from time to time. I can give examples of him having trouble to regenerate a lost limb.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Here, educate yourself http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t391529.html
Page 1 he survives a nuclear blast, and throughout he destroys planets, shows impressive speed feats, fights and defeats Superman, defeats multiple other super heros, and regenerates from a pool of blood or a finger. He shows genius level intelligence, and a very versatile power set. If he can laugh off a explosion that destroys a planet, take Superman punches with ease, and kill his own writers only to dictate the plot himself, he can can beat a guy who cant even hang with the top tier of marvel earth.
lol funny but except beating Superman and destroying planets Deadpool has done everything you've just mentioned. Surviving a nuke (Wolverine survived it twice), regenerating from a pool of blood or a finger, as well as killing his own READERS for laughs. Hulk is >>>>>> Lobo in pretty much every way (except maybe healing) and Wolverine can hang with him, yet you're saying that even an idea of him putting up a fight against Lobo is PIS... 🤨 Wolverine is quicker, argue that all you want and he has what it takes to hurt him. Im not arguing that Wolverine will take it but one would have to be seriously biased against Wolverine to say that he wont even be able to put up a good fight when he's battled many opponents who are Lobo's superiors.

EDIT: Anyway, we'll continue this tomorrow 'cause its late. Night everyone.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Lobo beats Colossus something fierce though. The dials are simply higher in DC.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he fought hyperion and managed to knock him down
and i will say it again theres only a hand full of people on earth stronger than colossus

You mean the instance, where Colossus hits a surprised Hyperion and all he manages to do was knock him down, and simply hurt himself? Spider-Man could accomplish as much if Hyperion isn't bracing himself or is surprised etc.

And that isn't 616 is it?

They are all stronger than him:

Hulk
Thor
Hercules
Juggernaut
Namor
Abomination
Rulk
Sentry
Wonder Man
Hyperion
Loki
Ulik
Beta Ray Bill
The Destroyer
Kurse
Count Nefaria

And that's just off the top of my head.

redhotrash Senior Member

Wolverine is quicker? Look at that respect thread, Lobo moves in a blur in MANY scans. All you see is the wind trails he leaves behind. He managed to snag THE FLASH with his hook...