Zoom Vs. Thanos

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You have to understand this. He sees an light at the end of the tunnel. A hint that there might be hope. That Thanos might have the slighiest chance to win. That if gobber is right, or not it doesn't matter the doubt is prove enough, Thanos stomps!

Though when the fight starts, Zoom's powers activate and time stands still. Thanos goes down. PIS CIS free.

Thanos has always had the ability to weather this storm/activate his shields/use tk/forceblock, etc. Goober does raise a valid point in that it comes down to reflexes here as he can't start with his powers already in motion in this fight.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Zoom is always in a different time line. What are you talking about?
They start off in the same battlefield.
Originally posted by galactusischere
As much as I like Thanos, this match would be exactly like the time when the Runner fought him during the infinity gauntlet saga.
Thanos didn't use any of his other abilities. He beat him using another gem but later we saw him negate Fallen One's speed. He also can erect shiels and fight to the best of his abilities here.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Zoom is always in a different time line. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the fact that Zoom's powers aren't active when the bell rings.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I don't even know how to respond to this.

It's just wrong. No, you are not right. The things you say are not correct.


Do we assume that characters are actively using their powers when the bell rings now?

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm talking about the fact that Zoom's powers aren't active when the bell rings.

Do we assume that characters are actively using their powers when the bell rings now?

That would be like saying the radiant isn't energy whent he bell rings. it is what he is. Or Thanos's durability not being active when the bell rings. It is what he is.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

There's a difference between passive powers (powers that would be active when the bell rings) and active powers. I'd think Zoom's powers are more or less passive powers the same way as Thanos' durability and strength are passive powers.

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Let's straighten this out a bit. Zoom *is* always in a different time line no differently than Surfer has power cosmic, or Wolverine's regen. I think Goober was saying that Zoom has only humanly reaction times and can't time manip faster than Thanos can affect him with one of his abilities (although TK/TP must travel).

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Let's straighten this out a bit. Zoom *is* always in a different time line no differently than Surfer has power cosmic, or Wolverine's regen. I think Goober was saying that Zoom has only humanly reaction times and can't time manip faster than Thanos can affect him with one of his abilities (although TK/TP must travel).

Which is simply wrong on Zoom's behalf.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Zeuodin
That would be like saying the radiant isn't energy whent he bell rings. it is what he is. Or Thanos's durability not being active when the bell rings. It is what he is.

No it's like saying that Thanos doesn't start off levitating out of Zoom's reach or behind his forcefields.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There's a difference between passive powers (powers that would be active when the bell rings) and active powers. I'd think Zoom's powers are more or less passive powers the same way as Thanos' durability and strength are passive powers.

If he actively controls his "time bubble" by willing it's relative speed then it's not a passive power anymore than Thanos's flight or Surfer's Cosmic Awareness.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
If he actively controls his "time bubble" by willing it's relative speed then it's not a passive power anymore than Thanos's flight or Surfer's Cosmic Awareness.

Surfer's superhuman perception does not have to be activated.

Just like Zoom's superhuman durability or perception does not have to be activated.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Zeuodin
That would be like saying the radiant isn't energy whent he bell rings. it is what he is. Or Thanos's durability not being active when the bell rings. It is what he is.
It comes down to reaction times and Thanos can weather Zoom's attacks while Thanos can end Zoom in one attack.

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
It comes down to reaction times and Thanos can weather Zoom's attacks while Thanos can end Zoom in one attack.

I don't he can. Imagine if Gamora were to hit Thanos billions of times? He'd be dead. she hurt him and made him bleed with a few strikes. Now Zoom hits far far harder than Gamora. He hits harder than Superman. And he has more than Punches. He can snap his fingers next to Thanos' ear a trillion times. He can zoom blast thanos. And if Thanos does manage to get a blast off, wouldn't it just look like a picture to zoom? He could out race an omnidirection all attack. jump over it. duck under it. etc.

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Based on comic showings, I doubt they intended for Zoom to have humanly reaction times at start, otherwise Flash would have no problem with him, or Superman, WW, or GL. His powers are somewhat paradoxial (like Galan stated previously) so it can be a bit confusing. He is always in a different timeline awake or sleep, but if you are suggesting he wills his time control you are arguing something a little different.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Surfer's superhuman perception does not have to be activated.

Just like Zoom's superhuman durability or perception does not have to be activated.


Um... yeah it does. People like Surfer and Supes don't start the match off looking/listening to the other side of the universe, they have to "turn on" their "super senses".

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
Um... yeah it does. People like Surfer and Supes don't start the match off looking/listening to the other side of the universe, they have to "turn on" their "super senses".

Their reactions are passive.

In many incidents does Superman have to block out his super hearing mind you.

-Pr- Hey Yo!
Originally posted by darthgoober
Um... yeah it does. People like Surfer and Supes don't start the match off looking/listening to the other side of the universe, they have to "turn on" their "super senses".

actually, it's the opposite way around. superman has to turn it off to filter out individual sounds.

at least where the hearing is concerned anyways.

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

The bell rings, before an second ends the time stops, no contest. Zoom 10/10

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Based on comic showings, I doubt they intended for Zoom to have humanly reaction times at start, otherwise Flash would have no problem with him, or Superman, WW, or GL. His powers are somewhat paradoxial (like Galan stated previously) so it can be a bit confusing. He is always in a different timeline awake or sleep, but if you are suggesting he wills his time control you are arguing something a little different.

There's virtually no way to work a forum fight into a plot for a comic, so the circumstances of a forum fight are never likely to come up. They don't have to worry about him being easily beaten because he's already using his powers when he's going after the heroes, just as other characters are normally already doing things like flying, using force fields, or invisible when their fights start in the comics.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Their reactions are passive.

In many incidents does Superman have to block out his super hearing mind you.


Of course their reactions are passive, THEY have super speed. Zoom doesn't.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course their reactions are passive, THEY have super speed. Zoom doesn't.

Only, now he does.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
actually, it's the opposite way around. superman has to turn it off to filter out individual sounds.

at least where the hearing is concerned anyways.


Yeah but we don't assume that he begins the fight with his hearing "turned up" to the max do we?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Only, now he does.

Since when? Which Zoom are you talking about?