Originally posted by Colossus-Big Cfacepalm
agamotto is only 1 being from vishanit theres two more beinngs in it
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i was told vishanti is as powerful as 3 galactus.
if thats not right then dont blame me it was said in a thread i can show you it
Originally posted by iceman24567
facepalm So what if i say Galactus is more powerful than TOAA that doesn't make it true facepalm
Originally posted by iceman24567
Still doesn't make it true the Agamotto fight proves this and Galactus was below normal level and it was in Agamotto's realm.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
demogorge>vishanti especialy because he has the power of hundreds if not thousands of elder gods inside of him
The Vishanti is a union of principalities
http://marvel.com/universe/Vishanti
So I disagree abit. Also what is your point with Demogorge having hundreds of elder gods inside him? As Ice already pointed out them being elder gods doesn't make them special. If what they did in such a massive infight (hundreds of beings against each other) was "only" to nearly destroy the planet, SS and Morg have done more, since the two of them wrecked a planet in a fight.
Galactus would beat all of these beings easily, at least if he is not starving
None of the elder gods/magical beings, etc....whatever you want to call them have any business trying to hang with abstract beings.
Galactus is an abstract being...sure he jobs, but people underrate him so much nowadays its sick
Originally posted by Utrigitaactualy they easliy could destroy a planet
http://marvel.com/universe/VishantiSo I disagree abit. Also what is your point with Demogorge having hundreds of elder gods inside him? As Ice already pointed out them being elder gods doesn't make them special. If what they did in such a massive infight (hundreds of beings against each other) was "only" to nearly destroy the planet, SS and Morg have done more, since the two of them wrecked a planet in a fight.
Atum>>Elder gods>>Skfathers>>Thanos>>galactus heralds
but yea team 5.5/10
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actualy they easliy could destroy a planetAtum>>Elder gods>>Skfathers>>Thanos>>galactus heralds
but yea team 5.5/10
Galactus 8/10
Originally posted by galactusischere
no...
Thanos before upgrade stalemated Odin(a serious fight though Odin had the SLIGHT upper hand)
After upgrade he should be equal to Odin or above.Galactus 8/10
That is wrong, Thanos came back from the dead he had a upgrade pre-IG, during Avengers Celestial Quest he got his second upgrade.
Thanos will never be above Odin, even though he has two upgrades after his resurrection maybe his equal.
Galactus is greater than Atum/ Demogorge in every way possible, Galactus is a force of nature on a cosmic scale, to say Demogorge will win because he has 100 elders gods in him doesn't compare too the power Galactus has in him the power of the big bang. Eternity called Galactus his equal not Atum, even the elder Gods are subjected too the Celestails and some of them can rival Galactus in power. Galactus can literally absorb all the life force out Demogorge or turn him into a giant size Twinkie.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actualy they easliy could destroy a planetAtum>>Elder gods>>Skfathers>>Thanos>>galactus heralds
but yea team 5.5/10
Based on what? because their combined brawl can possibly shatter a single planet you conclude that they could easily do it?
While that look very good from a initial standpoint it only serves to fit the average of each into their own catagory, and from what the Elder Gods (especially the ones Atum battled) have shown they isn't even classified as above SS based on their feats, but however just like their is different levels of skyfathers I also assume that just because you is a Elder God it doesn't per say make you = Seth ore Chton. For all we know the majority of the elder gods atum devoured could be around ore below Thor level, and may still be called elder gods simply because they was their before the asgardians and Co.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Based on what? because their combined brawl can possibly shatter a single planet you conclude that they could easily do it?While that look very good from a initial standpoint it only serves to fit the average of each into their own catagory, and from what the Elder Gods (especially the ones Atum battled) have shown they isn't even classified as above SS based on their feats, but however just like their is different levels of skyfathers I also assume that just because you is a Elder God it doesn't per say make you = Seth ore Chton. For all we know the majority of the elder gods atum devoured could be around ore below Thor level, and may still be called elder gods simply because they was their before the asgardians and Co.
k.
but set and chthon are Far greater than any skyfather.
feat wise. chthon is so powerful that for him to come to earth he would need a massive portal. he's the most powerful as he masterd chaos magic
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set grew into a solar system sized serpant and summoned every single earth including all alternates and was going to destroy them in a blink of an eye
Originally posted by Utrigita
Based on what? because their combined brawl can possibly shatter a single planet you conclude that they could easily do it?While that look very good from a initial standpoint it only serves to fit the average of each into their own catagory, and from what the Elder Gods (especially the ones Atum battled) have shown they isn't even classified as above SS based on their feats, but however just like their is different levels of skyfathers I also assume that just because you is a Elder God it doesn't per say make you = Seth ore Chton. For all we know the majority of the elder gods atum devoured could be around ore below Thor level, and may still be called elder gods simply because they was their before the asgardians and Co.
The majority of Elder Gods were b!tches. There's only a handful of them that are worth talking about. Set and Chthon were killing the lot of them left and right and grew powerful as they continued to absorb their essence. Your average Elder God is the equivalent of your average Asgardian or Olympian. If the Elder Gods were a pantheon, Demiurge would be Odin, Atum would be Rune King Thor, Gaea would be Frigya, Chthon would be Loki, and Set would be the Midgard Serpent.
The Vishanti's are another matter. They may be Elder Gods but they're entirely a different group by now. Unlike Chthon and Set, they didn't gain power by absorbing other gods; it's by learning and writing they're magic. They're more like Those Who Sit From Above relative to the other Elder Gods.
boriquaking55 Galactus would beat all of these beings easily, at least if he is not starvingNone of the elder gods/magical beings, etc....whatever you want to call them have any business trying to hang with abstract beings.
Galactus is an abstract being...sure he jobs, but people underrate him so much nowadays its sick
Nah. The title only gets you so far. Galactus can be beaten by these beings.
iceman24567Still doesn't make it true the Agamotto fight proves this and Galactus was below normal level and it was in Agamotto's realm.
Galactus was at normal levels. People should stop bringing this up as some kind of excuse. Unless I miss apart during that issue or before where it's stated Galactus was below normal levels or was hungry, Agamotto stalemated normal Galactus. Dr Strange pointed out that Galactus' would lose if he continued to underestimate Agamotto. In no way did he indicate Galactus' was weak in any way.
Agamotto had they advantage of his realm but with his two other allies plus the Elder Gods, Galactus is going down hard. The deities and gods win this 8/10 due to the Vishantis. They don't need prep time to beat Galactus. With prep tho, it's 10/10.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The majority of Elder Gods were b!tches. There's only a handful of them that are worth talking about. Set and Chthon were killing the lot of them left and right and grew powerful as they continued to absorb their essence. Your average Elder God is the equivalent of your average Asgardian or Olympian. If the Elder Gods were a pantheon, Demiurge would be Odin, Atum would be Rune King Thor, Gaea would be Frigya, Chthon would be Loki, and Set would be the Midgard Serpent.The Vishanti's are another matter. They may be Elder Gods but they're entirely a different group by now. Unlike Chthon and Set, they didn't gain power by absorbing other gods; it's by learning and writing they're magic. They're more like Those Who Sit From Above relative to the other Elder Gods.
Nah. The title only gets you so far. Galactus can be beaten by these beings.
Galactus was at normal levels. People should stop bringing this up as some kind of excuse. Unless I miss apart during that issue or before where it's stated Galactus was below normal levels or was hungry, Agamotto stalemated normal Galactus. Dr Strange pointed out that Galactus' would lose if he continued to underestimate Agamotto. In no way did he indicate Galactus' was weak in any way.
Agamotto had they advantage of his realm but with his two other allies plus the Elder Gods, Galactus is going down hard. The deities and gods win this 8/10 due to the Vishantis. They don't need prep time to beat Galactus. With prep tho, it's 10/10.
Chthon would be loki?
😐 you have people like dormammu using chthon spells to over take earth and collaps a universe...
demogorge would be odin? WTF
they guy beat mephisto in his own realm.
were do you get this bull?
Even set has taken over alternate universe, with ease
vishanti's main purpose is oppose chthon and his darkhold.
Chthon=vishanti
Gaea is far more powerful than any asgardian as all earth gods are decended from her.
LOL
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Chthon would be loki?
😐 you have people like dormammu using chthon spells to over take earth and collaps a universe...
LOL. They all use each others spells. It doesn't say Chthon is more powerful than Dormammu. And yeah, Chthon would be Loki seeing as Atum has matched him in power and would eat him in his Demogorge form (RKT).
demogorge would be odin? WTF
they guy beat mephisto in his own realm.
Demiurge would be Odin. Do you have some kind of reading comprehension?
were do you get this bull?
Even set has taken over alternate universe, with ease
What dimension has he taken over? Even Thoth, Set's nephew and son of Atum, battled Set in the outskirts dimension for milleniums.
vishanti's main purpose is oppose chthon and his darkhold.
LOL. You mean the book of the Vishantis, not the Vishanti's themselves. They're rival is the Trinity of Ashes.
Chthon=vishanti
LOL. Maybe they're books but Chthon ain't an equal to the Vishanti. At best, he's an equal to the individual members.
Gaea is far more powerful than any asgardian as all earth gods are decended from her.
LOL
LMAO. First off, it was a metaphorical comparison. Secondly, Gaea is not more than Odin or Rune King Thor. That's like saying Gaea is more powerful than Atum because he decedended from her. Gaea needed Atum because she couldn't stop the other Elder Gods. Odin has feats upon feats that would put him over Gaea. You don't have enough feats to support you damn statement that Gaea is greater than Odin or Rune King Thor so just stop rambling.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
LOL. They all use each others spells. It doesn't say Chthon is more powerful than Dormammu. And yeah, Chthon would be Loki seeing as Atum has matched him in power and would eat him in his Demogorge form (RKT).[b]Demiurge
would be Odin. Do you have some kind of reading comprehension?What dimension has he taken over? Even Thoth, Set's nephew and son of Atum, battled Set in the outskirts dimension for milleniums.
LOL. You mean the book of the Vishantis, not the Vishanti's themselves. They're rival is the Trinity of Ashes.
LOL. Maybe they're books but Chthon ain't an equal to the Vishanti. At best, he's an equal to the individual members.
LMAO. First off, it was a metaphorical comparison. Secondly, Gaea is not more than Odin or Rune King Thor. That's like saying Gaea is more powerful than Atum because he decedended from her. Gaea needed Atum because she couldn't stop the other Elder Gods. Odin has feats upon feats that would put him over Gaea. You don't have enough feats to support you damn statement that Gaea is greater than Odin or Rune King Thor so just stop rambling. [/B]
lets see the midgard serpant do that.
each member of vishanti are greater than odin,
vishanti actually battled chthon to a stalemate.
most elder gods are above odin..
scarlet witch with chthon powers was reality warping the universe.lets see loki do that
atum is above vishanti. he feeds off of god energy so he would just drain it of power
all pantheons come from gaea, she is more powerful.
chthon because of his vast energy cannot even leave his dimension, because no portal would be big enough.
atum beat mephisto and absorbed his realm.
lets see odin do that........
also the midgard serpant is Sets Grandson
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingNah. The title only gets you so far. Galactus can be beaten by these beings.
Galactus was at normal levels. People should stop bringing this up as some kind of excuse. Unless I miss apart during that issue or before where it's stated Galactus was below normal levels or was hungry, Agamotto stalemated normal Galactus. Dr Strange pointed out that Galactus' would lose if he continued to underestimate Agamotto. In no way did he indicate Galactus' was weak in any way.
Agamotto had they advantage of his realm but with his two other allies plus the Elder Gods, Galactus is going down hard. The deities and gods win this 8/10 due to the Vishantis. They don't need prep time to beat Galactus. With prep tho, it's 10/10. [/B]
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Galactus was at normal levels. People should stop bringing this up as some kind of excuse. Unless I miss apart during that issue or before where it's stated Galactus was below normal levels or was hungry, Agamotto stalemated normal Galactus. Dr Strange pointed out that Galactus' would lose if he continued to underestimate Agamotto. In no way did he indicate Galactus' was weak in any way.Agamotto had they advantage of his realm but with his two other allies plus the Elder Gods, Galactus is going down hard. The deities and gods win this 8/10 due to the Vishantis. They don't need prep time to beat Galactus. With prep tho, it's 10/10.
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
What the....
demiurge is noting but a representation of earths life force, its not a physical being,
LOL. It doesn't have to be a physical being, it's a sentient life force. Who do you think Gaea pleaded to and mated to bring forth Atum?
Demogorge or atum would rapestomp odin.
What compare of metaphor don't you understand? Go google up metaphor. And Demogorge beating beat Odin is a duh!
set was influencing 6 alternate universes containing earth
What issue is this this happening in? I have my copies of Atlantis Attacks and having trouble finding this panel. Better yet, why don't you post the entire page where this is happening as well.
lets see the midgard serpant do that.
Do what? Did you even comprehend my post? Oi.
Aside from the handful of Elder Gods, the rest are shit. That's my entire argument but somehow this goes over your head. The elder gods are like any pantheon; their power levels very broadly across the board.
each member of vishanti are greater than odin,
Thanks for the obvious.
vishanti actually battled chthon to a stalemate.
What book and issue numbers?
most elder gods are above odin..
LOL. Certainly not Gaea though.
scarlet witch with chthon powers was reality warping the universe.lets see loki do that
Gawd. When did I ever say Chthon is Loki's equal? Secondly, Scarlet Witch was doing something even Chthon couldn't. The highest level of magic is Lord Chaos and Master Order. Both Dormammu and Odin, representives of Order and Chaos were battling this out in a chess game. Chthon is but one of the Lords of Chaos. He might have learned and written some of this but Lord Chaos has existed prior to Chthon. Please don't attribute Wanda's feat with Chthon's because then you might as well attribute Atum's feat to Gaea.
atum is above vishanti. he feeds off of god energy so he would just drain it of power
Where did I argue for or against this point?
all pantheons come from gaea, she is more powerful.
LOL. So she's more powerful than Atum right? The Eternals came from her? Also, the pantheon of Earth gods didn't come directly from her. After Demogorge had defeated the last of the Elder Gods, he unleashed they're energy upon the Earth and created a new generation of gods. The current gods came about from the energies of the devoured Elder Gods. Please get you facts straight.
chthon because of his vast energy cannot even leave his dimension, because no portal would be big enough.
So? It just means he doesn't have enough power to travel out of that dimension. If LT, Eternity, Chaos, or one of the higher deities wanted they would open up a portal that Chthon can escape his dimension from.
atum beat mephisto and absorbed his realm.
lets see odin do that........
Yup, you definitely can't comprehend what I wrote.
[b]also the midgard serpant is Sets Grandson
And?