Originally posted by quanchi112
So you weren't aware of it draining him? How often has he succeeded when the first shot failed?Why can't Surfer avoid it again?
Originally posted by xJLxKingBecause the beams aren't on their highest setting. Superman just took some energy blasts he wasn't obliterated or anything.
Funny, I don't see him getting drained or weakening
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
why didn't superman get out of the way?
Originally posted by xJLxKingWhat's to stop the Surfer from matching these beams with his own?
He is an idiot. Besides, that rarely helps. It will keep chasing and chasing. Eventually, Ds will get him. His only chance is...
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17That won't stop the Surfer. He was went up against more powerful threats and people just as mean. Ds has also been tainted by WW before anywho.
Hence it's almost an even fight. I sway over to DS because he's a mean SoB!!
Originally posted by ZeuodinThat's a longshot. Was this ever done outside seven soldiers? You talked about the godblast and soulsuck as being rare yet you pull this out.
This will work on Surfer. We already know it works. It worked in the black Body saga.
Originally posted by quanchi112According to Final Crisis this was the only other time the real DS has ever been seen.
That won't stop the Surfer. He was went up against more powerful threats and people just as mean. Ds has also been tainted by WW before anywho.That's a longshot. Was this ever done outside seven soldiers? You talked about the godblast and soulsuck as being rare yet you pull this out.
Originally posted by quanchi112that is seven soldiers. which does show DS power. he defeated the black racer who bitched Superman. He defeated high father, and all the other new Gods. he erased their memories. He created his own reality and then planted the new gods there. those are all feats that can be used. FC only revealed that All other DS appearances were merely projections and not the real him.
We can't use fc version as it's impossible to debate for and against the character. That's why classic Seid is still used because fc gave us nothing combat wise.
Originally posted by ZeuodinFc stated he needed the ale to truly defeat them. The point is we use classic Ds in debates for and against Ds. You seem like you are trying very hard for Ds to win and want to go by a few stories which make it impossible to debate for or against him properly.
that is seven soldiers. which does show DS power. he defeated the black racer who bitched Superman. He defeated high father, and all the other new Gods. he erased their memories. He created his own reality and then planted the new gods there. those are all feats that can be used. FC only revealed that All other DS appearances were merely projections and not the real him.
Originally posted by quanchi112Actually if he'd have used the ALE to defeat the Gods then there would have been no war. He would have simply controlled them all. He wouldn't have fell from heaven either. The battle cost him his position in the 4th world. I also posted an easy victory for DS. The Omega Sanction. you have given no example of why you think surfer wins. You choose instead to use opinion with no backing, a loss to Superman while ignoring all other feats. Should we use Surfer's loss to storm when she blasted him one time? Ds calls down lightning and owns surfer
Fc stated he needed the ale to truly defeat them. The point is we use classic Ds in debates for and against Ds. You seem like you are trying very hard for Ds to win and want to go by a few stories which make it impossible to debate for or against him properly.
Originally posted by ZeuodinThe ale was specifically mentioned as winning the war. Your argument is with morrison not me. I like usual am stating facts and you seem to be getting rather upset over this.
Actually if he'd have used the ALE to defeat the Gods then there would have been no war. He would have simply controlled them all. He wouldn't have fell from heaven either. The battle cost him his position in the 4th world. I also posted an easy victory for DS. The Omega Sanction. you have given no example of why you think surfer wins. You choose instead to use opinion with no backing, a loss to Superman while ignoring all other feats. Should we use Surfer's loss to storm when she blasted him one time? Ds calls down lightning and owns surfer
This is getting rather amusing. You post a pic of Storm attacking a holding back Surfer and expect this to pass. Surfer wasn't even defeated here so I fail to see the relevance. Ds was going all out against Superman and he was soundly defeated.
I don't even think an all out omega effect could defeat the Surfer imo. I have a writer stating it wouldn't even kill Superman and the fact it really hasn't taken anyone out on the Surfer's upgraded level tends to give my theory weight.
Surfer has also been upgraded since then and in the scan Surfer isn't even defeated. 🙂
Surfer either avoids the omega effect and uses his speed to let it blast Ds or blocks it with blasts of his own and owns Ds. He can use his board to strike Ds in the back of the head while he is blasting away at Ds.
