silver surfer vs darkseid

Originally posted by quanchi112
The ale was specifically mentioned as winning the war. Your argument is with morrison not me. I like usual am stating facts and you seem to be getting rather upset over this.

This is getting rather amusing. You post a pic of Storm attacking a holding back Surfer and expect this to pass. Surfer wasn't even defeated here so I fail to see the relevance. Ds was going all out against Superman and he was soundly defeated.

I don't even think an all out omega effect could defeat the Surfer imo. I have a writer stating it wouldn't even kill Superman and the fact it really hasn't taken anyone out on the Surfer's upgraded level tends to give my theory weight.

Surfer has also been upgraded since then and in the scan Surfer isn't even defeated. 🙂

Surfer either avoids the omega effect and uses his speed to let it blast Ds or blocks it with blasts of his own and owns Ds. He can use his board to strike Ds in the back of the head while he is blasting away at Ds.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
oh didn't you know? the omega cannot kill Superman because his story was the most powerful thing in the DCU. You did read final Crisis right? Superman could not be erased or killed because he was protected. His story protects him. You didn't get that did you? It was written very cleverly and for the highly intelligent. Also you are saying the lightning didn't affect him when it not only made him howl in pain, it literally went thru his body.

He also resisted before in a new gods ish. I don't know where you get I am referring to fc at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying outside that story another writer agreed who was written both Ds and Superman that the omega beams wouldn't kill him.

He also resisted before in a new gods ish. I don't know where you get I am referring to fc at all.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
You are missing the WHOLE POINT. FC is referring to ALL superman's stories damn it. The reason DS couldn't kill Superman is because the Superman Story is greater than everything else and he is protected. The writer says the omega wouldn't kill him for the same reason. Superman's story will always protect him. OMG. FC was explaining why Superman couldn't be killed. He didn't even die when he fought doomsday. He was only in a depleted state. Said so right in the comic that he came back in. Silver Surfer does not have the luxury of a story that protects him on a omniversal scale.

There were all kinds of plot devices floating around in that arc. Supes doesn't need this and neither does the Surfer imo. Surfer can also meet it with energy blasts while his board crushes Darkseid's backside.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am dismissing fc and using a writer's statements it wouldn't kill him just because it isn't powerful enough to do so.

There were all kinds of plot devices floating around in that arc. Supes doesn't need this and neither does the Surfer imo. Surfer can also meet it with energy blasts while his board crushes Darkseid's backside.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
So you are dismissing The Story because it works against your argument? FC explains why the OE could never kill Superman. Superman's story is more powerful than everything in the DCU except mandrakk who was literally feeding on it. Doomsday couldn't kill Superman for the same reason. His story. Silver Surfer does not have the luxury of the Superman story. And Superman in a forum match wouldn't have the luxury of it either. once again I have kicked your butt in debating.

I am leaving fc out and even prior to that we had a writer state outside this reason the oe wouldn't erase Superman.

You're confusing my reasoning with your own.

Surfer tanks it just like Superman would imo and it has nothing to do with stories.

Also, how do you know the Surfer's story isn't great enough to survive it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you missing the whole point of the miracle machine/ca?

I am leaving fc out and even prior to that we had a writer state outside this reason the oe wouldn't erase Superman.

You're confusing my reasoning with your own.

Surfer tanks it just like Superman would imo and it has nothing to do with stories.

Also, how do you know the Surfer's story isn't great enough to survive it?

Silver Surfer creates a stairway.

Darkseid falls over himself for teh self-pwnage.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
FC explains why the writer said what he said. Don't you get that? The OE has already worked on the infinity man who is more powerful than Superman and Surfer. So your argument is invalid while mine is supported. Superman is protected by his story. not by his power.

Why wouldn't the Surfer be allowed to be protected by his story?

Silver Surfer creates a stairway.

Darkseid falls over himself for teh self-pwnage.

Darkseid wins. Surfer's only advantage is speed and Darkseid has shown to be fast enough to defeat Superman's speedblitz.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid wins. Surfer's only advantage is speed and Darkseid has shown to be fast enough to defeat Superman's speedblitz.

I don't think Surfer will be physically able to put him down. Drakseid sends beams at Surfer game over

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Silver Surfer creates a stairway.

Darkseid falls over himself for teh self-pwnage.

Exactly 😄

Darkseid.

Darkseid

If he isn't beating Thanos, he isn't beating Darkseid. 😬

👆

Darkseid beats the sh1t out of SS.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I don't think Surfer will be physically able to put him down. Drakseid sends beams at Surfer game over

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If he isn't beating Thanos, he isn't beating Darkseid. 😬