silver surfer vs darkseid

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what is Darkseid>Thanos? Especially since as stated, Thanos is way way above Surfer, and Surfer > Superman... but Darkseid has serious problems dealing with Superman.

Surfer is above Superman primarily due to his ability to exploit Superman's weaknesses. In a fight without weakness exploitation Superman might well take the majority.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He has also stomped new gods.Superman is the exception to the rule not the rule.

lol, "the exception that proves the rule". That's just a cop-out because you don't want to take his low showings into account, but only his high ones. As I said, Thanos>Surfer>Superman <=> Darkseid. Darkseid and Superman usually meet as established equals.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Surfer is above Superman primarily due to his ability to exploit Superman's weaknesses. In a fight without weakness exploitation Superman might well take the majority.

I disagree. And even then, it's clear the difference between Thanos and Surfer is much greater than that of Darkseid and Superman.

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol, "the exception that proves the rule". That's just a cop-out because you don't want to take his low showings into account, but only his high ones. As I said, Thanos>Surfer>Superman <=> Darkseid. Darkseid and Superman usually meet as established equals.
I'd say his high feats lean more towards high then his low low.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'd say his high feats lean more towards high then his low low.

You have to accept both, though. Thanos has very few low showings while I can rattle off many for DS.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
I disagree. And even then, it's clear the difference between Thanos and Surfer is much greater than that of Darkseid and Superman.

You'd have trouble explaining why Surfer can take Superman for a majority when weakness exploitation is off.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what is Darkseid>Thanos? Especially since as stated, Thanos is way way above Surfer, and Surfer > Superman... but Darkseid has serious problems dealing with Superman.
Orion is stronger than Surfer with Vast energy and matter manip powers. I'd say he is a DC Thor who is at least equal to surfer and DS casually waved Orion off. DS reached into firestorm,another herald and broke the Red's matrix with no effort. DS one shotted Angel Supergirl who was more powerful than superman and Despero. DS destroyed agog who was treating Orion and LR as if they were nothing.DS one shots Translevelers. DS Killed Granny Goodness, the very same one who impersonated the low skyfather lvl athena. ur logic has failed.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You'd have trouble explaining why Surfer can take Superman for a majority when weakness exploitation is off.

That's a different thread. And even if the two are equal, my argument still is true.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Orion is stronger than Surfer with Vast energy and matter manip powers. I'd say he is a DC Thor who is at least equal to surfer and DS casually waved Orion off. DS reached into firestorm,another herald and broke the Red's matrix with no effort. DS one shotted Angel Supergirl who was more powerful than superman and Despero. DS destroyed agog who was treating Orion and LR as if they were nothing.DS one shots Translevelers. DS Killed Granny Goodness, the very same one who impersonated the low skyfather lvl athena. ur logic has failed.

lol. SS is > all of those people, and Thanos is definitely above them.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
lol, "the exception that proves the rule". That's just a cop-out because you don't want to take his low showings into account, but only his high ones. As I said, Thanos>Surfer>Superman <=> Darkseid. Darkseid and Superman usually meet as established equals.
Orion has one shotted Superman and stalemated an amped superman. Yet Orion gets one shoted by DS. Ur logic fail much? INFINITY MAN was greater han superman. DS held IM and even split him apart. Again, ur logic fails mich.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
lol. SS is > all of those people, and Thanos is definitely above them.

Lets see, despero beat 6 heralds and two high metas at once. Surfer can't do that. Angel supergirl beat despero and was actually beating new gods in thie true forms. So that is complete bullshit tat surfer is greater than angel supergil. Utter bs.You think surfer is greater than IM? Lulz. So surfer can beat the greek gods and literally impersonate athena a low skyfather? You don't quit do you?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Orion has one shotted Superman and stalemated an amped superman. Yet Orion gets one shoted by DS. Ur logic fail much? INFINITY MAN was greater han superman. DS held IM and even split him apart. Again, ur logic fails mich.

Once again this is just your attempt to act like the low showings don't matter. You just brought up two high showings while i've already shown he's lost to Superman just as much. Consistently DS has trouble with Supes while all you can do is use ABC logic that ignores what is drawn on panel.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Lets see, despero beat 6 heralds and two high metas at once. Surfer can't do that. Angel supergirl beat despero and was actually beating new gods in thie true forms. So that is complete bullshit tat surfer is greater than angel supergil. Utter bs.You think surfer is greater than IM? Lulz.

IM is the only one of those who I might place above SS. If your only reason for saying Angel Superman is so tough is "she's above Supes and Despero" then i'll definitely have to say SS is > her. So maybe that's one valid showing you've got there, which is more than canceled out by, let's go with DS's embarrassing action comics loss to superman.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Once again this is just your attempt to act like the low showings don't matter. You just brought up two high showings while i've already shown he's lost to Superman just as much. Consistently DS has trouble with Supes while all you can do is use ABC logic that ignores what is drawn on panel.
The very last DS in seven soldiers was shown pwning Superman over and over. DS pimp slapped superman in onfodential. And he ****ed superman in owaw. Ds only lost one time to superman in apok now. Which can be considered PIS and CIS.One more thing, surfer isn't superman so DS won't have any trouble splitting surfer from the PC much like he did firestorm from the matrix.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by lightyeargee
The very last DS in seven soldiers was shown pwning Superman over and over. DS pimp slapped superman in onfodential. And he ****ed superman in owaw. Ds only lost one time to superman in apok now. Which can be considered PIS and CIS.One more thing, surfer isn't superman so DS won't have any trouble splitting surfer from the PC much like he did firestorm from the matrix.

DS lost to Supes in Action Comics as well as Apokalips Now, also he beat up DS as well that time that DS was recovering from the infamous batkick. LOL not to mention his OE actually got blasted onto his face by Raker with a simple GL construct.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
IM is the only one of those who I might place above SS. If your only reason for saying Angel Superman is so tough is "she's above Supes and Despero" then i'll definitely have to say SS is > her. So maybe that's one valid showing you've got there, which is more than canceled out by, let's go with DS's embarrassing action comics loss to superman.
Despero is more powerful than surfer. Easily surfer would get his shell caved. Also angel supergirl was bitching true form new gods. The ones who can destroy worlds just by touching them. And DS one shot her. Surfer is below IM,Agog,and Angel supergirl.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Despero is more powerful than surfer. Easily surfer would get his shell caved. Also angel supergirl was bitching true form new gods. The ones who can destroy worlds just by touching them. And DS one shot her. Surfer is below IM,Agog,and Angel supergirl.

Superman could beat Despero in a fight, also SS destroyed planets simply as a byproduct of fighting. So i'm not impressed. What has Agog done?

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Originally posted by King Kandy
DS lost to Supes in Action Comics as well as Apokalips Now, also he beat up DS as well that time that DS was recovering from the infamous batkick. LOL not to mention his OE actually got blasted onto his face by Raker with a simple GL construct.
No he dodnt. DS was kicking supermans ass. SUPERMAN CHARGED IN AND GAVE DS all he had. DS back handed supers and was about to kill him when WW reversed the beams back on DS. As a matter of fact, I ant remember a time DS can be hurt without him first exerting the omegas.Oh and the batkick didn't hurt DS. It was highfathers staff. You missed that part? That is what weakened DS. DS beat the crap out of an amped Batman in the supergirl saga.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Superman could beat Despero in a fight, also SS destroyed planets simply as a byproduct of fighting. So i'm not impressed. What has Agog done?
Superman got his ass kicked by despero alng with WW,PG,CM,ect. Hel even in superman batman, superman was getting his ass kicked. That version of despero wasn't even using TK or TP. Agog beat Orion and light ray as if they were nothing. Something surfer an not do.

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And Action Comics wasn't a win for Supes in any sense of the word....

Superman catches Darkseid off guard with three punches, then gets forcibly removed from the battle.