Originally posted by darthgoober
If you're talking about the instance I'm thinking of he didn't just knock him to Earth from the moon, it was from Saturn...http://img237.imageshack.us/i/85157929fi8.jpg/
http://img267.imageshack.us/i/99415456lx9.jpg/But fair warning, I heard a while back that the comic might not be canon. I can't say for sure one way or the other for sure though.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiFirst Hulk's strength can range from about 90 tons to God knows what? I'm not claiming that Hulk's strength wasn't a lot (a lot to you may not be a lot to me). I'm claiming that since we don't know how much it was then we can't use the feat to show superiority over Thor. I don't believe you with the writer though. Even if you are right then that writer can't speak for all writers. Especially when Hulk can potentially be stronger than any humanoid being. So that writer was full of bs.I guess the logic classes were swept under the rug I see....
1. Show me one lifting feat... fighting feat... or any feat with hulk that gives us an exact measurement of how anger and strong he is. This doesn't happen and you know it. Yet for some reason you require that for this particular feat. We know hulk wasn't exactly happy and was pissed and trying to put Thanos down. Period. That is a good enough for most people to understand that Hulk was strong and yet a feeb compared to Thanos. So, as you can see it doesn't matter how pissed hulk was and that is never stated. What we know is hulk is really strong and hulk was angry and trying to put Thanos down. Period. How about the fact that a well known Hulk writer was SPECIFICALLY asked a question about how Hulks strength compares to Thanos. He said... Thanos is in another weight class than Hulk and that is just the way it is. You have one of Hulk own writers for years saying Hulk is no match for thanos and even in reference to strength. Yet that isn't good enough for you. Hmmm seems to fit rather nicely with how easily he dismisses him doesn't it?
Thanos only slap a few people in his comic career. I see Thanos slapping beings around as a sign of that I have bigger and better things to do (like take over the universe) than mess around and play cops and robbers like an ordinary villian. I don't see it as a sign that he can beat them in battle. CA was the only one that didn't retaliate from the slap. Others beings either engaged Thanos or refuse to. Never did Thanos ko them with the slap as to why they didn't engage him afterwards.
2. The problem with your conclusion on what a mere slap means is painful evident. You see your claim is that a mere slap doesn't show superiority to someone else, only that Thanos wants them and us to believe he is. The problem with this H1a9 and again why logic fails you, is that nothing is done about it. You act like he slaps people and then all of a sudden he gets owned. False. He slaps people effortlessly and it puts them down or if it doesn't he still proceeds to own them. You would have a point if he slapped people and then got owned. However, that isn't even close to what happens. So yes, that is exactly why a mere slap means so much. You see writers and artists as I said try and convey this point over and over again but it appears your too blind and bias to accept it. When someone slaps another with a mere slap and can put them down, while laughing at them for even stepping to him, and they can do nothing about it.. That is a clear cut way to show someone is that much stronger than other right? I can't believe your arguing this point. It would be like someone using one finger to flick another in the head and it knocks them down and they get laughed at. Yet you wanna believe this doesn't show a clear superiority in strength and power lol. Okay...yet when doing this to clear powerhouses like Drax, Hulk, Herc, Thing etc.. means to you.. nothing haha.
And with class 100 strength I could finger flick Hulk, Thor, and whoever down too. Slapping Galactus away wouldn't prove anything to me. Slapping is nonsense stuff that proves nothing.
Well it wasn't canon. But even though it takes more strength to knock someone in orbit through wind resistance than to knock them to the Earth from Saturn in space (no wind resistance and minimal gravity).
3. Thanos punching Mar-veil from the Moon to earth just exactly how strong and how much force Thanos can hit with. One shot.. and Mar-veil goes flying like a rocket. Yet Mar-veil was exchanging shots with Thanos yet Thanos didn't go anywhere. Hmmmm. Yet again the writer and author trying to illustrate how much power Thanos as again he easily gets ride of a herald level character.
Striking power is indeed showing strength. I'm saying that Thor could possibly do the same thing in 6 hits if he unleashed his full might. Thor killing his uncle with one blow is far more impressive to me. SS's durability doesn't butter my muffin. Plus it could be a low showing for SS all we know. That is why this feat can't be used on its own.
4. Are you actually arguing that strength isn't included in striking power? Are you actually arguing this point? You know that strength is an aspect of striking power. Thus Thanos almost killing SS with 6 punches IS a sign of his strength
Thanos is powerful indeed. He has a vast array of powers, mixed with good strength, durability, intelligence, and skill. He needs everything he has to exceed the heralds. Let him have his strength and durability alone and he will get his arse handed to him partner. Normal un amped Heralds are not that strong when they compare to Thor, Superman, CM, Gladiator, etc. And stop with this slapping logic routine. I can't agree there.
5. In general you just aren't seeming to grasp the fact that Thanos has always been portrayed as being above an HH and by a good amount. That is why he often only needs mere slaps to dismiss them. That is why he laughs at them and mocks their strength. Do you know why he's never lost to any HH before H1a8... Hmmmm because he is that much more powerful than them. That is just how it is buddy and the sooner you start realizing this the better. When you notice that he always deals with these characters and beats them, either easily or with minimum effort it becomes clear what they are trying to convey. It only requires basic logic and reason. They are trying to convey that Thanos is that much stronger/powerful than any of them. Hence the reason he doesn't take any losses to them. Seems very logical right? So.. what then is the issue? You tell me then if its not strength that makes Thanos superior and doesn't lose to HH then why is it? You must agree he doesn't lose for whatever reason.. Yet wanna believe Supes is somehow differnt? That Thor is stronger? lol. Thor has never beaten Thanos EVER. Why is that then h1a8
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You'd think being hit from Saturn would cause a much bigger crater than that. Like an entire city block.
Actually all one has to do is hit them to a point somewhere inbetween Saturn and Earth where Earth's gravity now exceeds Saturns gravity. Earth's gravity will then take over from that point on. Also Marvell was nearly weightless in space outside of Saturn when the hit occurred.
So the Saturn feat, although not canon, isn't as impressive as Thor knocking his uncle (more than 3 times massive) into space through the astronomical wind resistance and full surface gravity force of Earth.
Originally posted by h1a8
Actually all one has to do is hit them to a point somewhere inbetween Saturn and Earth where Earth's gravity now exceeds Saturns gravity. Earth's gravity will then take over from that point on. Also Marvell was nearly weightless in space outside of Saturn when the hit occurred.
So the Saturn feat, although not canon, isn't as impressive as Thor knocking his uncle (more than 3 times massive) into space through the astronomical wind resistance and full surface gravity force of Earth.
Originally posted by h1a8
First Hulk's strength can range from about 90 tons to God knows what? I'm not claiming that Hulk's strength wasn't a lot (a lot to you may not be a lot to me). I'm claiming that since we don't know how much it was then we can't use the feat to show superiority over Thor. I don't believe you with the writer though. Even if you are right then that writer can't speak for all writers. Especially when Hulk can potentially be stronger than any humanoid being. So that writer was full of bs.
Thanos only slap a few people in his comic career. I see Thanos slapping beings around as a sign of that I have bigger and better things to do (like take over the universe) than mess around and play cops and robbers like an ordinary villian. I don't see it as a sign that he can beat them in battle. CA was the only one that didn't retaliate from the slap. Others beings either engaged Thanos or refuse to. Never did Thanos ko them with the slap as to why they didn't engage him afterwards.And with class 100 strength I could finger flick Hulk, Thor, and whoever down too. Slapping Galactus away wouldn't prove anything to me. Slapping is nonsense stuff that proves nothing.
Well it wasn't canon. But even though it takes more strength to knock someone in orbit through wind resistance than to knock them to the Earth from Saturn in space (no wind resistance and minimal gravity).
Striking power is indeed showing strength. I'm saying that Thor could possibly do the same thing in 6 hits if he unleashed his full might. Thor killing his uncle with one blow is far more impressive to me. SS's durability doesn't butter my muffin. Plus it could be a low showing for SS all we know. That is why this feat can't be used on its own.
Thanos is powerful indeed. He has a vast array of powers, mixed with good strength, durability, intelligence, and skill. He needs everything he has to exceed the heralds. Let him have his strength and durability alone and he will get his arse handed to him partner. Normal un amped Heralds are not that strong when they compare to Thor, Superman, CM, Gladiator, etc. And stop with this slapping logic routine. I can't agree there.
Why is this so difficult with you....
1. Again, he doesn't just slap people and run away. He slaps them away, laughs and mocks them and they can't do anything about it. Thanos still wins. What aren't you getting about that.
2. You keep on going back to Thor & Supes are stronger and all you are basing this on is lifting feats. Not combat feats because Thanos has shown his superiority over strong guys like Thor, Herc, Hulk, Thing, Drax etc etc. He's shown he's stronger in combat, narration even spells it out for slow people "I'm strength personified" in case there was any doubt. Yet, you still say Thor is stronger.. So, my question then... You agree Villains don't have lifting feats right? Yet you feel DD & DS are stronger than Thanos. Yet what are you basing this on.. hmmmmm must be combat feats. Yet those same feats don't count for Thanos? Explain that hipocrisy? So then you obviously feel Thor is stronger than DD & DS using the same criteria as you are with Thanos right? Since villains aren't going to have "save the world" lifting feats to compete with heroes then no villains under your premise can be stronger than a hero as he won't have the feats.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI'm curious. Where are these test of strength Thanos has? Has he like grabbed them and held them helplessly? Or does he hit them real hard with his UBER durable hands that would hurt anyone. Does he hit them without amping with his cosmic powers? While I"m asking questions, The only guys I've seen Thanos smack around were a weaker Thor and A Weaker Hulk. When ever he faces someone actually giving a fight he usually just last because he's durable. and even that is debatable as Gamora made him bleed and she's weaker than any of the guys you mentioned.
Why is this so difficult with you....1. Again, he doesn't just slap people and run away. He slaps them away, laughs and mocks them and they can't do anything about it. Thanos still wins. What aren't you getting about that.
2. You keep on going back to Thor & Supes are stronger and all you are basing this on is lifting feats. Not combat feats because Thanos has shown his superiority over strong guys like Thor, Herc, Hulk, Thing, Drax etc etc. He's shown he's stronger in combat, narration even spells it out for slow people "I'm strength personified" in case there was any doubt. Yet, you still say Thor is stronger.. So, my question then... You agree Villains don't have lifting feats right? Yet you feel DD & DS are stronger than Thanos. Yet what are you basing this on.. hmmmmm must be combat feats. Yet those same feats don't count for Thanos? Explain that hipocrisy? So then you obviously feel Thor is stronger than DD & DS using the same criteria as you are with Thanos right? Since villains aren't going to have "save the world" lifting feats to compete with heroes then no villains under your premise can be stronger than a hero as he won't have the feats.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
I'm curious. Where are these test of strength Thanos has? Has he like grabbed them and held them helplessly? Or does he hit them real hard with his UBER durable hands that would hurt anyone. Does he hit them without amping with his cosmic powers? While I"m asking questions, The only guys I've seen Thanos smack around were a weaker Thor and A Weaker Hulk. When ever he faces someone actually giving a fight he usually just last because he's durable. and even that is debatable as Gamora made him bleed and she's weaker than any of the guys you mentioned.
Are you trying to claim Thanos isn't strong, because he has no tests of strength? I already explained that the same way every other villain doesn't have such tests of strength. Are you trying to claim Thanos isn't strong and it's just his durable hands that inflict so much damage.. I won't even address that as it's just silly. Every brick powerhouse in Marvel has been nothing next to Thanos. Period. Their thing is strength and punching yet Thanos usually just laughs at them like feebs. You have people like Thor, Hulk, Thing, Drax, Herc etc etc. All strong guys right? Yet not one, not one has ever overpowered him or got the better of him. You make it sound like they slap him around everywhere and the only reason he last is because of his durability LOL. Is that a joke? He's casually slapping them away, mocking and laughing at them, and usually ends the fight rather quickly with taking very little damage if at all. Are you really trying to say they mess him up and he just outlast them? I mean honestly are you? If so.. you need to actually read the stories in question. For God's sake you have Hulk's own writer for many years saying he believe Thanos is in another weight class when it comes to strength. Yet like h1a8 it appears you want lifting feats for a villain lol. Sorry bud they don't have them. What we do have is Thanos treating every strong person he's met like a joke and like they are nothing compared to him. I quote "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" Now what exactly do you think the writer was trying to convey Omega? You tell me.. My answer is... These two guys have a reputation in Marvel for being strong men.. Thanos grabbed them both and laughs at them and goes... yeah you guys aint sh1t. That is my interpretation what is yours?
Originally posted by ZeuodinLoL at the crap Gamora never made him bleed, it was flem if you have scan of her making him bleed post it.
I'm curious. Where are these test of strength Thanos has? Has he like grabbed them and held them helplessly? Or does he hit them real hard with his UBER durable hands that would hurt anyone. Does he hit them without amping with his cosmic powers? While I"m asking questions, The only guys I've seen Thanos smack around were a weaker Thor and A Weaker Hulk. When ever he faces someone actually giving a fight he usually just last because he's durable. and even that is debatable as Gamora made him bleed and she's weaker than any of the guys you mentioned.
And Thanos unamped punched Thor w/pg through the floor.
Originally posted by NihilistPunching Someone Thru The Floor makes them stronger? Wonder Woman punched Amazo thru the floor. I guess she's stronger Than Thanos since Amazo is Stronger than Thanos.
LoL at the crap Gamora never made him bleed, it was flem if you have scan of her making him bleed post it.And Thanos unamped punched Thor w/pg through the floor.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Punching Someone Thru The Floor makes them stronger? Wonder Woman punched Amazo thru the floor. I guess she's stronger Than Thanos since Amazo is Stronger than Thanos.
Still not addressing my post eh? So.. what is your basis for saying Amazo is stronger. Once you answer that.. how about you answer my post since you asked questions of me which I answered.
