Originally posted by carver9Carver stfu clown shoes you dont have clue what your talking about, Thanos was hit with debris from the gas giant exploding also.
Terrible argument. Thanos durability against blasts are top notch, that has nothing to do with blunt force.Savage Hulk has busted Thor face open and had him bleeding with a black eye and busted lip whereas Surfer couldn't even damage a injured Thor.
Hulk fist>>>Surfer blasts.
Surfer blasts>>>>>Hulks fists, easy.
Originally posted by carver9Hulk tore a hole in the ship, his body was still protected.
[B]The shield was ripped open. Hulk had no protection.
Surfer didn't do anything in that fight on planet Hulk that Colossus couldn't do...catch Hulk off guard.Surfer was pwnin the shit out of Hulk and the Warbound who had to step in to save Hulk.
What's so impressive about cracking Thanos shields? It's been cracked before and if you are comparing it to the shields he used against Galactus then lol. Thanos shielded his entire body from Galactus, the only shield he used against Thor was a hand placement.Gimme some proof that this sield was weaker, especialy against some one as powerful as PG Thor..because Thanos is known for doing so stupid stuff.
Originally posted by Nihilist
PG Thor made Thanos bleed from the hits he gave him the like of Odin or Tyrant never even did that type of damage, Thor also busted Thanos shield with 1 punch, it took Champion at least 3 and we saw what power Champ had.
The people PG Thor went throught together would beat Hulk. All Hulk did was destroy a planet and not the Drak Dimension and that was a shared feat.
Like who?
I want you to show me PROOF of Thanos saying anything about SAVAG HULK. You say you like Thanos yet dont clearly understand anything about him, Thanos only goes looking for a fight when he ains something from it, its called being smart.
So are we just gonna use high end feats? k, Thanos survived a direct hit from a gas gaint exploding that was felt light years away, the force from that blast is beyond anything Hulk can muster plus Thanos survived inside a completely closed Black Hole.
By punching him again and again then to death before Hulk can do shit about it.
Energy was also the cause of the planets get wrecked not just punches/pure strength.
It sure didnt look like that in Planet Hulk and Surfer durability>>>>>Hulk healing factor/durability.
So are you gonna say Thanos punches wont do anything, if so dont bother with a reply, a more powerful doppleganger of Thanos couldnt wear him down with 10 plus cosmic amped "Surfer killer" punches
Originally posted by The SorrowThe Sentry of Pak he's definitely more powerful than. Pak doesn't or didn't write a really powerful Sentry like Jenkins or Bendis.
It's debatable as to whether Thanos is more powerful than Sentry at his best to be honest, he has been described as having near limitless power several times but he exhausted himself against Hulk. This is a fist fight and a Hulk not restricting himself handled top tiers even easier than Thanos.
Thanos' power has also been described as near limitless and Surfer's has been described as limitless. Guess what Thanos stomped him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry of Pak he's definitely more powerful than. Pak doesn't or didn't write a really powerful Sentry like Jenkins or Bendis.Thanos' power has also been described as near limitless and Surfer's has been described as limitless. Guess what Thanos stomped him.
I have only seen that stated about Thanos once and i'm betting that statement about Surfer was from decades ago? We know that neither actually have anywhere close to limitless power. Sentry, and Hulk for that matter, have been stated as having limitless or near limitless power their whole careers and have shown it on panel, Sentry through creating the Void and Hulk ascending to World Breaker levels.
Originally posted by carver9Carver what are you talking about ? You never make any sense.
My buddy Quan...Concession accepted.
Originally posted by The SorrowDue to the power actually unleashed on panel and due to his formidability.
It was explicitly stated he was going all out and he had never unleashed his power like this before, i'm curious why do you think Pak's Sentry was weaker than under previous writers?I have only seen that stated about Thanos once and i'm betting that statement about Surfer was from decades ago? We know that neither actually have anywhere close to limitless power. Sentry, and Hulk for that matter, have been stated as having limitless or near limitless power their whole careers and have shown it on panel, Sentry through creating the Void and Hulk ascending to World Breaker levels.
Surfer's had that statement more than once and saying near limitless power isn't proof of anything. You can try and twist things around in favor of the Hulk because it's just your own play.
What is near limitless power ? Thanos has actually knocked Galactus on his ass, defeated the Maker, trounced Mar-vell physically, stalemated then defeated Thor with the power gem, etc. Hulk beating an elite top tier isn't special considering it's Thanos who he is up against.
Thanos is far more impressive.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
It was explicitly stated he was going all out and he had never unleashed his power like this before, i'm curious why do you think Pak's Sentry was weaker than under previous writers?I have only seen that stated about Thanos once and i'm betting that statement about Surfer was from decades ago? We know that neither actually have anywhere close to limitless power. Sentry, and Hulk for that matter, have been stated as having limitless or near limitless power their whole careers and have shown it on panel, Sentry through creating the Void and Hulk ascending to World Breaker levels.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry of Pak he's definitely more powerful than. Pak doesn't or didn't write a really powerful Sentry like Jenkins or Bendis.Thanos' power has also been described as near limitless and Surfer's has been described as limitless. Guess what Thanos stomped him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer's had that statement more than once and saying near limitless power isn't proof of anything. You can try and twist things around in favor of the Hulk because it's just your own play.What is near limitless power ? Thanos has actually knocked Galactus on his ass, defeated the Maker, trounced Mar-vell physically, stalemated then defeated Thor with the power gem, etc. Hulk beating an elite top tier isn't special considering it's Thanos who he is up against.
Thanos is far more impressive.
Only Hulk has proved it, his power can increase without limit hence some of his ridiculous feats he is able to accomplish with strength only. Thanos has physical limits Hulk doesn't.
Thor and Sentry have defeated people far more impressive than Thanos so would that make them far more impressive than him too?
There is context behind those feats you listed, the Galactus and Maker instances are irrelevant since this is a fist fight. Mar-vell didn't show physicality anywhere close to WBH level and Thor was beating Thanos, he doesn't have a random tech gun lying around here just his chin and his fists.
This would potentially be a long drawn-out fight which plays into Hulk's hands. It's his fight to lose.
Originally posted by Kid KurdySurfer's been described as limitless as well and his power doesn't even faze him.
Near limitless = not limitless.
Originally posted by The SorrowUnlike power gem Thor and Thanos they were focusing it all on each other. Sentry was releasing massive amount of energy along the surrounding area. I do agree collateral damage is nothing but the Sentry's actual showing from Pak pales in comparison to what he's done by other writers hence my conclusion Pak Sentry isn't anywhere near as formidable as other writers have him.
Collateral damage is not always indicative of power, PG Thor and Thanos didn't even destroy the room they were in. Sentry took multiple high powered shots to face from Green Scar without budging that's very impressive, no other herald is capable of that.Only Hulk has proved it, his power can increase without limit hence some of his ridiculous feats he is able to accomplish with strength only. Thanos has physical limits Hulk doesn't.
Thor and Sentry have defeated people far more impressive than Thanos so would that make them far more impressive than him too?
There is context behind those feats you listed, the Galactus and Maker instances are irrelevant since this is a fist fight. Mar-vell didn't show physicality anywhere close to WBH level and Thor was beating Thanos, he doesn't have a random tech gun lying around here just his chin and his fists.
This would potentially be a long drawn-out fight which plays into Hulk's hands. It's his fight to lose.
Yes, the Sentry was an elite top tier as was the WW Hulk but Thanos is beyond that.
Hulk's most impressive showings don't come close to Thanos. hence the point.
Who have they defeated more impressive than Thanos ?
Thanos held back against the Maker and doesn't usually just rely on his fists like a one dimensional brick. Thanos is stronger than the Hulk along with smarter and more durable.
Mar-vell didn't show any weakness at all to elite top tiers with proven histories while Hulk beat some no name characters juiced up for the plot. Thanos dominated Mar-vell physically so this is all I need.
No, it actually isn't since WW Hulk burned himself out.
Originally posted by The SorrowOdin wore him down Thanos had no actaul injuries, the orb did nothing to aid Thanos durability, Thor injured Thanos making him bleed
[B]Only they clearly did greater damage, Odin had Thanos on his knees and he needed an amp to face Tyrant, he at least was able to hold his own against Thor under his own power.
Who did Thor beat that would physically defeat WBH?Physical has nothing to do with it, the entire group Thor beat down at once would drop Hulk, the attacks Thor tanked would drop Hulk..showing how powerful that version of Thor was
In the early days Captain Mar-vell,Thanos never struggled against Marvell and that was a pred Death Thanos
MagusAgain pre Death Thanos and Magus had the soul gem and was feeding on the church believers and 25000 black knights,
Champion,Didnt struggle, he just used his smarts for a far easier victory plus that Champion was above Hulk so moot point.
Drax,*sigh* again he never struggled against Drax, every time they fough Thanos was shown to be far superior and that was the Drax that was tearing stars in half and busting planets with his own power(and that was the weaker pre death Thanos)
Hulk and Drax restrained himAnd?,
his doppleganger,/quote]Who was more powerful than him, which makes him at least trans lvl [quote]ThorWhen? dont bother trying to use the IG story as Thanos was giving the heroes a chance and fighting several guys at once,
GamoraYou mean when they sparred and Thanos wasnt harmed plus her speed and skill shit all over Hulks.
etc none of whom are stronger than WBH. Thor with PG is comparable and he was beating Thanos in a fist fight, Hulk will amp just as Thor did too.
Seeing as though that was the only Hulk around at the time...Which has nothing to do with Thanos first ever meeting the Hulk and going straight for him
And yet he was killed by a small bomb. IIRC Skreet survived that explosion too..It was a anti matter bomb plus it was stated at least 3 times Thanos was weak from beong reborn to early, you do know skreet is a chaos mite created by the elder god Dlibri right and it was stated she had survived worse during the great purge
Where did energy destroy the planet? He was walking and causing continental disasters while holding back, WBH can easily destroy planets.In the dark Dimension, he never caused continental disasters at all, and did you miss the massive gamma energy wave tearing apart land mass BEFORE he took a step.
What's with the attempted lowballing?Like youve been doing for the entire thread
Neither character were at full strength but Hulk knocked Surfer out in 3 punches.After the Warbound had to step in to save Hulk
WBH destroyed Arm'Chedon, someone comparable to Surfer with ease.So Thanos ko'd Surfer in 3 punches and killed him in 6
Let's be honest the clone was a pale imitation, Thanos even said this himself.Stop lying, Thanos stated the clone was more powerful
WBH took greater damage than what Thanos punches have dished out and smiled at it,[quote]And Thanos hasnt lol. his healing factor and durability are too great at this level. [quote]The only person to defeat the current Hulk was Zeus, it took him around 7 magically amped punches to KO Hulk and that wasn't the World Breaker.The next pat of your post is just horseshit
Writer's and authors have different interpretation of damage. Some writer's have character ko the other without blood being shown. And others have blood being shown without really coming close to koing the adversary.
I don't recall Tryant or Odin ever hitting Thanos with a physical blow. Thanos has great durability to energy blasts. But this is a fist fight.
I don't think DP Tryrant is much stronger (physical wise) than say an average Gladiator. So surviving a physical punch (not blast) from him doesn't mean you can beat WWH in a fist fight. Odin, although a skyfather, hasn't been proven to be more than 2x stronger than say Thor.
IMO, the writer in blood thunder was trying to show that Thor with a slight amp can match Thanos physically. We know Thor had a slight amp, and not a huge one, because he wasn't able to draw power from the gem efficiently until he was force blocked. In his fights against the Watch he never displayed a strength feat more than 2x a normal Thor on a good day.
I would say this would be a good fight at least for WWH. WWH would get only stronger in the end and more dangerous.