Originally posted by psycho gundamDrax used them against Thanos in Annihilation though which is his point. He used an anti matter bomb to kill him in Imperative while he was weakened. The bomb serves as the satellite meaning a plot device outside Iron Man or Drax's powers in a particular thread.
thanos used his "eternal powers" to kill drax though ermm
Thanos was regaining his strength the entire first couple issues of the arc...with drax present the entire time. Not once did anyone including Thanos remark that Thanos' convalescense would be expedited with drax removed from his proximity, and Thanos being at prime fighting form was the only option they had to you know...save all of creation
Im not buying the idea that drax impaired Thanos, if anything he just makes himself into the perfect killing instrument
Originally posted by psycho gundamHe was regaining but wasn't at full power so thus weakened. I never said Drax used his Thanos negating powers here but in annihilation he clearly did so. I did say Thanos was weakened and it was due to a plot device weapon outside his powers so thus inapplicable.
Thanos was regaining his strength the entire first couple issues of the arc...with drax present the entire time. Not once did anyone including Thanos remark that Thanos' convalescense would be expedited with drax removed from his proximity, and Thanos being at prime fighting form was the only option they had to you know...save all of creationIm not buying the idea that drax impaired Thanos, if anything he just makes himself into the perfect killing instrument
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiAnd having the ability to tear out Thanos' heart didn't get the job done. Which is why he went the whole complete disintegration route. As he himself states rather matter-of-factly. Notice how he never talks about some random imaginary aura that's weakening Thanos? Notice how he's actually talking about the antimatter mine? Yeah, see here:
Your common sense and logic seem to be gone the last few days. Well that, and you inability to get my argument right. This is WHAT WE KNOW AS FACTS:1. Drax has in his DNA encoded to be Thanos silver bullet. He continues to evolve to a point where he can finally get the job done and kill Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiAnd this new green aura was clearly not seen in Thanos Imperative. You're arguing against yourself again.
2. We saw this manifested in a new green aura that we've never seen before, which was a new adaptation to get the job done. Which he did
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHe apparently doesn't have control over his own evolutions either. He never evolved this aura beforehand when he was killed before Annihilation. And he lost his strength, flight, durability and energy projection when he developed the "silver-bullet aura" amp during Annihilation. He did evolve his bulk back up though when around Thanos. So it's not an aura that kicks up around Thanos. It's his evolution. And we saw this evolution manifest.
3. We know that he has NO control over this kicking on when he's around Thanos. It's always on when in proximity to Thanos. We saw the reinforced AGAIN in the Comic in question when he said he had no control over his actions when he gets around Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi... with an anti-matter mine device because the last time he tore out his heart, it didn't keep. See above scan.
4. We also know that being this encoding in his DNA STILL EXISTS.. he STILL has the power to Kill Thanos and that hasn't changed one bit
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou mean like how you keep protesting that I prove that Thanos lost his forcefields when he fought Tyrant and Maker. M'kay. Nice hypocrisy. Shocking, in fact.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF HE'S LOST THE ENCODING IN HIS DNA THEN POST IT. YOU KNOW YOU DON'T and THuS HE STILL HAS THIS POWER.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiDrax's powerboost was obvious since he exhibited a flashing aura that allowed him to pierce through Thanos' shields. Nothing suggested that Drax got a powerboost or an AoE weakening aura near Thanos. Drax was standing next to Thanos for three whole issues. Here, let's check it out. Here's how close:
So, we are left with two distinct posibilities1. First, as you've argued COUNTLESS TIMES, sometimes artists don't always draw things the same. If it's a given that when Drax is around Thanos.. he gets a boost in power or it stops Thanos from using some of his Eternal powers.. We know he has SOME KINDA power going on just when he gets around Thanos. So, it could be argued.. as you have, that he artist didn't feel the need to draw a green aura.. just liike (you claim) some artists don't draw shields.
Do you see Thanos feeling weaker every time he;s standing near Drax? Or Drax flashing with power? Or anything suggesting that Drax turned off Thanos' powers or inherent durability? Nope. Nobody does. I know you wish you saw it. Because somehow, being disintegrated by a close-proximity antimatter mine is a low feat. Indeed, this imaginary AoE Thanos-weakening aura somehow seems to not be working since Mantis and Cosmo actually talk about how Thanos is actually recovering his power... not weakening.
What do you know? Even though proving a negative is a logical fallacy, the scene here is so obvious, that I actually can in fact, prove the negative. There is no imaginary AoE Thanos-weakening aura that makes Thanos weaker. Why? Because he's been recovering power the entire time while specifically in proximity with Drax. Fancy that.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou're talking about Annihilation. Nobody cares about Annihilation. We're talking about Thanos Imperative. And we saw what killed Thanos, an antimatter mine. Stop deflecting. Arguing that Drax has a gene-encoded imperative to kill Thanos does not prove that Drax developed an invisible Thanos-weakening aura. Let's lay it out in plain English: you proving the former, doesn't prove the latter. Just because you find it easier to prove the former, doesn't mean that you get to pretend that introducing that red herring, somehow tends to prove the latter.
2. We know he constantly adapts his power till he can finally get the job done. This manifested itself by a new green aura and lack of flight and blasting. So we know it can adapt to be something never seen before. So not only could the green aura just not have been drawn, it could any number of new ways that still affects Thanos in a negative way.. seen or unseen. We know he still has it in his DNA.. so how it's manifested nobody knows.. what we DO KNOW FOR A FACT is he still has it BY HIS ACTIONS IN THE COMIC IN QUESTION. " I can't control myself when I'm around Thanos.. there is something in inside of me that I can't control" i.e. he still has it DUH it was never taken away and is in his DNA
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou're trying to get me to prove the negative. While acting like Drax having an evolving ability = Drax evolving an AoE Thanos-weakening aura. I didn't drop anything. I'm asking you to prove that Drax evolved the ability to weaken Thanos, without which his antimatter mine would not have been successful. Because there's nothing on-panel showing that. At all.
Also, don't think I didn't notice how you had NO retort for who was actually wanting somebody to prove a negative. That was YOU and I see you dropeed that when called on it. You have to prove it doesn't exist anymore, that burden is on you to prove, not for me to prove a negative.Again, you do know who Andy Schmidt is right? Ya know the guy who edited the comic in question. Ya know a person more familiar with the comic and what the intent was than yourself or I. Yet, you want to take his comments about a book HE edited and go.. No I know better than him.. LULZ... Dunce doesn't even suffice with you sometimes.
Andy Schmidt edited Annihilation. Not Thanos Imperative, you idiot. When you're trying to act smug, at least have some semblance of pretense for it. Once again, you're breaking the KMC rules. Read them again. In fact, before you bring up Andy Schmidt's random posts in some forum, quote this rule. So that you can't plead ignorance that you'd be breaking them again when bringing up this crap:
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Originally posted by Nihilist
Which he can, She Hulk busted him open with one punch as did a depowered Juggernaut.
You know for a Character who can basically regenerate from nothing i dont think judging this fight on the basis that he shed some "Blood" throughout Planet Hulk and WWH Justifies a Thanos victory,to be fair.
Thanos using strength alone will eventually lose.
Originally posted by RezIf weak ass feeb like She Hulk/depowered Juggernuat bust him up, Thanos would wreck him.
You know for a Character who can basically regenerate from nothing i dont think judging this fight on the basis that he shed some "Blood" throughout Planet Hulk and WWH Justifies a Thanos victory,to be fair.
Thanos using strength alone will eventually lose.
Originally posted by h1a8And your a moron who does it in every debate, plus WWH was buseted open all the time
Characters fight at their best here (AS SHOWN BEFORE). You are low balling.
Originally posted by RezYou mean the off panel fight against someone who has never been defeated.
SquirrelGirl.dude 😆
Yeafh i was right you are a troll.
Originally posted by Nihilist
And your a moron who does it in every debate, plus WWH was buseted open all the time You mean the off panel fight against someone who has never been defeated.Yeafh i was right you are a troll.
ROFL,I'm talking about Squirrelgirl beating Thanos,you do know Marvel acknowledge that win,even though someother writers tried to retcon it,masking it in ambiguous fashion.Seeing as you raised the rather juvenile point of Hulk shedding blood against She-Hulk.Dont know if you noticed,but he was shedding blood throughout PH and WWH.But if your giving this Victory to Thanos on the basis that She-hulk punched Hulk in the face during WWH,i really think you should reconsider your position as a Sensible debater
"Yeafh i was right you are a troll">>>please dont start acting like Damborgson,i heard KMC was a fun place to debate and chat about comic's.But you dishing out comments like that,make you look childish and a tad bit stupid tbh.Grow up 😎
Originally posted by h1a8Lowballin is all you have to offer, its the only way you can debate.
[B]I'm the opposite of lowballing. You must be new here.WWH has a healing factor which balances his durability. Thing even drew blood from Hulk. But we see how that turned out.
Yeah Thing got put down, Thanos hits far far harder and his durabilty is so far beyond Thing it not even funny
Originally posted by RezSome wroter lol it was the same guy that wrote the Squirel girl fight. at least kknow what your talking about .
[B]ROFL,I'm talking about Squirrelgirl beating Thanos,you do know Marvel acknowledge that win,even though someother writers tried to retcon it,masking it in ambiguous fashion
Seeing as you raised the rather juvenile point of Hulk shedding blood against She-Hulk.Dont know if you noticed,but he was shedding blood throughout PH and WWH.But if your giving this Victory to Thanos on the basis that She-hulk punched Hulk in the face during WWH,i really think you should reconsider your position as a Sensible debaterYou can try and be as smart ass as you like, but ive been dealing with Hulktards like you for ages, who refuse to ackowledge anything against Hulk, fact is WWH was getting badly damaged by weak feebs on a regular, someone of Thanos class hits harder and wont go down.
"Yeafh i was right you are a troll">>>please dont start acting like Damborgson,i heard KMC was a fun place to debate and chat about comic's.But you dishing out comments like that,make you look childish and a tad bit stupid tbh.Grow up 😎More BS trying to look smart, dont act like a troll and you wont get called on it.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Some wroter lol it was the same guy that wrote the Squirel girl fight. at least kknow what your talking about .You can try and be as smart ass as you like, but ive been dealing with Hulktards like you for ages, who refuse to ackowledge anything against Hulk, fact is WWH was getting badly damaged by weak feebs on a regular, someone of Thanos class hits harder and wont go down.More BS trying to look smart, dont act like a troll and you wont get called on it.
what's a wroter???The way it stand's squirrelgirl beat Thanos,end of story.You can keep your "it was a clone" crap to yourself.
Now lets back up there a minute,son.You know a what a Hulktard is?of course you do 🙂 now can you quote me anywhere on this forum or any other for that matter where i say that Hulk can beat everybody?No?i thought not.Think before you speak,son.So your opinion is Thanos wins?cool.
"dont act like a troll and you wont get called on it"
ROFL yeah word's to live by,you should try it sometime,douchebag. 😱
