Superman vs. Quasar

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Superman wins

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And Superman doesn't have low feats? He has a few definitely

Quasar's higher end feats means his uber. Even on average, he can be pretty formidable when he needs to be from what I recall.

Pretty slow? I recall Quasar covering interstellar distances etc.

And how the hell is Superman going to hurt Current Quasar in the first place? His nothing but Quantum energy? This guy survived going into the fault as well without being phased. From what I recall, ridiculously impressive durability feat.

Superman's first attack would have to be his last one. Unfortunately it wouldn't be against Quasar. Especially current Quasar.

Quasar drains him dry.

Superman has sealed rips in time space and you want to ask me how he will hit Quasar?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman has sealed rips in time space and you want to ask me how he will hit Quasar?

You mean the time, when he rubs his hands together and creates a barrier around a small rip or the time he with Orion helping and under his guidance, while he was increased to god like New Gods size?

Yea, I'm asking you how he is going to hit Quasar. A being whose nothing but Quantum Energy, energy that he alone controls.

Heat Vision would be the worse thing Superman could use here. It'll remind Quasar even sooner that he can simply drain Clark dry.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean the time, when he rubs his hands together and creates a barrier around a small rip or the time he with Orion helping and under his guidance, while he was increased to god like New Gods size?

Yea, I'm asking you how he is going to hit Quasar. A being whose nothing but Quantum Energy, energy that he alone controls.

Heat Vision would be the worse thing Superman could use here. It'll remind Quasar even sooner that he can simply drain Clark dry.

Except It usually doesn't work that way. Superman's freeze breath for instance, can freeze energy beings. It's colder than the absolute cold of space. Don't ask me how but it is. Or he dumps quasar in his t-vo like reality. He is still far and away faster than Quasar. And I know you aren't using past feats of quasars in conjuction with his new energy form are you?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean the time, when he rubs his hands together and creates a barrier around a small rip or the time he with Orion helping and under his guidance, while he was increased to god like New Gods size?

Yea, I'm asking you how he is going to hit Quasar. A being whose nothing but Quantum Energy, energy that he alone controls.

Heat Vision would be the worse thing Superman could use here. It'll remind Quasar even sooner that he can simply drain Clark dry.


Counter Vibration.
Also, if Quasar is pure energy which can't damage Superman, then (imo)Superman can absorb it.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Except It usually doesn't work that way. Superman's freeze breath for instance, can freeze energy beings. It's colder than the absolute cold of space. Don't ask me how but it is. Or he dumps quasar in his t-vo like reality. He is still far and away faster than Quasar. And I know you aren't using past feats of quasars in conjuction with his new energy form are you?

Again, did said energy beings show that they have energy manipulation as Quasar? I've seen Quasar drain random aliens, in the past. I'm not basing him draining Superman on that, but on him being able to drain Norrin.

Torquasm-Vo. Wasn't that retconed? Just asking. And since when is Torquasm-Vo another like reality? It's a mind game from what I understand.

Yea why? He has the Quantum Bands back now. So Current Quasar is Classic Quasar, while in Quantum energy form as I understand it. Where does it say he suddenly can't do what he was able to in the past?

T-vo has or will be retconned. I am not sure. My guess is yes, it has

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Counter Vibration.
Also, if Quasar is pure energy which can't damage Superman, then (imo)Superman can absorb it.

Say it works. What will it do? Destroy his energy form. He can reform now.

Lol, at Superman absorbing Quasar. I ain't even bothering to respond to that. Next thing you know he'll be draining Norrin off the Power Cosmic, and Thor of his Godly life force.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Say it works. What will it do? Destroy his energy form. He can reform now.

Superman did it to Darksied when he was pure Energy. IT will work on Quasar

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman did it to Darksied when he was pure Energy. IT will work on Quasar

Yes, a dying Darkseid because he was apparently made up of vibrations like everything else.

Unfortunately....

a) Quasar is not dying.
b) Quasar has shown the ability to reform from being destroyed.
c) Quasar has completely control over his energy.

Say it will work on Quasar and shatter his energy form. He could reform and drain Clark.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, a dying Darkseid because he was apparently made up of vibrations like everything else.

Unfortunately....

a) Quasar is not dying.
b) Quasar has shown the ability to reform from being destroyed.
c) Quasar has completely control over his energy.

Say it will work on Quasar and shatter his energy form. He could reform and drain Clark.


A dying, yet still powerful DS.

Unfortunately for Quasar
- DS has control of himself as well, didn't stop it
- Everyone Vibrates
- Once your frequency is countered by another frequency, you die. Doesn't matter if you can reform or not. Once it happens, you seize to exist

Originally posted by xJLxKing
A dying, yet still powerful DS.

Unfortunately for Quasar
- DS has control of himself as well, didn't stop it
- Everyone Vibrates
- Once your frequency is countered by another frequency, you die. Doesn't matter if you can reform or not. Once it happens, you seize to exist

Batman just shot him with New Gods Silver Bullet and he was severely taxed as I recall.

- When did Darkseid exhibit control to the point he had absolute mastery over his energy form, like Quasar apparently has? Quasar controls Quantum energy and the Quantum Field, and currently his body is Quantum energy. It's like a Green Lantern being made out of a Green Lantern construct and still have a ring and an internal battery.

- So you say

- First of all prove it as it's only happened once, and he killed a dying Darkseid, and second of all Quasar died but came back.

- When did Darkseid exhibit control to the point he had absolute mastery over his energy form, like Quasar apparently has? Quasar controls Quantum energy and the Quantum Field, and currently his body is Quantum energy. It's like a Green Lantern being made out of a Green Lantern construct and still have a ring and an internal battery.

You mean like an Orange Lantern? They are made of Construct (energy of greed), and they carry a Orange Ring

So you say

Did I not prove this to you, or was it Niaja?
http://www.dblondin.com/092506.html
http://www.mindreality.com/science-of-vibration-in-every-aspect-of-physical
http://www.summum.us/philosophy/principles.shtml

Note: Google magic 😄

First of all prove it as it's only happened once, and he killed a dying Darkseid, and second of all Quasar died but came back.

Yes, it did happen once, but doesn't mean he is restricted. There is a difference between someone killing you and canceling you out.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You mean like an Orange Lantern? They are made of Construct (energy of greed), and they carry a Orange Ring

Heh, that's not a bad comparison. Of course Quasar is a lot more complicated but I understand his current form something akin to this. You can destroy an Orange Lantern, but they just keep coming back.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Did I not prove this to you, or was it Niaja?
http://www.dblondin.com/092506.html
http://www.mindreality.com/science-of-vibration-in-every-aspect-of-physical
http://www.summum.us/philosophy/principles.shtml

Note: Google magic 😄

You know I could easily counter that by saying "Marvel Earth =/= DC Earth" and yea it was Naija. 😂

Oh and do you honestly expect me to read any of that shit? You better high light the important stuff and paste it here cause I'm waaay to lazy.

Note: Vibrations? Heh, Thor shrugs those off....

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yes, it did happen once, but doesn't mean he is restricted. There is a difference between someone killing you and canceling you out.

Well, when you highlight the said difference and tell me how it would be different from destroying his said energy form. He can erase it, or cancel it out. He'd simply draw on energy from the Quantum Zone and return.

lmfao.

Obviously, Darkseid had the worst durability ever in Final Crisis. Despite being a multiversal threat, new-god kryptonite could still completely **** him up. Doesn't make any sense in the least, but them's the breaks. Superman being able to vibrate a dying Darkseid's energy shit apart doesn't suddenly mean he'll be able to vibrate anyone apart. Quasar does not inherit weaknesses the DC beings have.

Heh, that's not a bad comparison. Of course Quasar is a lot more complicated but I understand his current form something akin to this. You can destroy an Orange Lantern, but they just keep coming back.

First thing that came to mind 😛

You know I could easily counter that by saying "Marvel Earth =/= DC Earth" and yea it was Naija. Oh and do you honestly expect me to read any of that shit? You better high light the important stuff and paste it here cause I'm waaay to lazy. Note: Vibrations? Heh, Thor shrugs those off....

For some reason I am confusing you and Niaja.
Here is a quote from one of those links

http://www.dblondin.com/092506.html
""If it vibrates it can be tuned. Everything is energy - violins, people, potato chips, thoughts, feelings, and events. They all vibrate." (Spear par. 1)"
Plain and simple, then there is
In general, sound therapy is based on the theory that all things vibrate, and therefore everything can be relatively in or out of tune.This includes parts of our bodies, such as our brains, and things in our environment, like grasshoppers, or passing trains. While some of the vibrations are very obvious, heart beats, for instance, and some of them are not, such as colors, molecular proteins, DNA, and times of the day. Basically, any physical matter, or event, consists of patterns of movement, and consequently everything around us is contributing to a greater harmonic mixture.
This furthers my point that vibrations can be canceled out.

http://www.mindreality.com/science-...ect-of-physical
The entire physical universe is made up of pure energy and vibration. When you have the insight to see everything as vibration, the nature of the universe is revealed to you. Light is vibration. The entire electromagnetic wave spectrum of visible light produces different colors. Colors are simply waves vibrating at different frequencies.
Good? Further more

But it doesn’t work that way. Increasing the light intensity of warm light does not make it a lot more stimulating. Higher energy levels require higher rate of vibration. It is not the magnitude but the frequency of the vibration that determines it’s energy level. Is it any wonder that blue flame is hotter than yellow flame?
Again this further proves that Superman just has to counter the vibration to cancel it out. Something like if 7/7, they cancel each other.

http://www.summum.us/philosophy/principles.shtml
This Principle embodies the idea that everything is in motion; everything vibrates; nothing is at rest; facts which science endorses and which each new scientific discovery tends to verify. Yet this Principle was enunciated thousands of years ago by masters of old. This Principle explains that the differences between various manifestations of matter, energy, space-time, mind, and even spirit result largely from varying rates of vibration.
Good?

Note: Vibrations? Heh, Thor shrugs those off...

Again, it is different you are just using vibration and when you are counter vibrating someone else's vibration to cancel their existence.

Well, when you highlight the said difference and tell me how it would be different from destroying his said energy form. He can erase it, or cancel it out. He'd simply draw on energy from the Quantum Zone and return.

That's if he has time before he gets cancel. This is just something kills. It removes you from existence. It can erase though

lmao at some of the utter nonsense being suggested in this thread. SUperman absorbing Quasar, superman countervibrating quasar away....yeah freaking right. Quasar ftw.

I'm amazed at the EXTREME leaps of logic some people are willing to sink to in order to make the character they like win in an obvious spite thread.... :-/

Next thing we'll hear is Superman T-VOing PR Beyonder. Countervibrating the Living Tribunal and THEN Heat Visioning the HOTI into oblivion...

All before breakfast and while saluting the American flag...

Frankly, I'm disgusted... :-/

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I'm amazed at the EXTREME leaps of logic some people are willing to sink to in order to make the character they like win in an obvious spite thread.... :-/

Next thing we'll hear is Superman T-VOing PR Beyonder. Countervibrating the Living Tribunal and THEN Heat Visioning the HOTI into oblivion...

All before breakfast and while saluting the American flag...

Frankly, I'm disgusted... :-/


Funyy, I am just going by what the comic stated.
Superman used counter vibration to counter DS. At that time, he was only energy. In this fight, if Quasar turn into pure energy, he'll will be screwed.

The fact that I had to post proof that everyone, and everything vibrate doesn't that I'll go to extreme lengths.