Captain Marvel vs Thor H2H

That's because DC sees their own Hercules as lesser than Superman. If a portion of Atlas' strength is needed to equal them out then its still his base strength. Zeus' power is the only thing he needs to deliberately channel.

Remember when Captain Marvel and Superman were fused to the same body? Superman was floored by the power reading he was getting from Marvel, saying in shock he had no idea what Marvel was capable of. Which just shows both hold back against each other and neither try to dip into their power reserves.

Yea, Superman was impressed by his awareness of the world, the magical world, and his power.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Like the above poster said, he has that by default. It doesn't take time for him to match Superman. He's like that, unless someone borrows his powers like Mary or Freddy.

Again like I said, he has to use the strength of Atlas and Hercules from what I recall.

The strength of Atlas and Hercules are both his by default so he can access both. I simply meant if he used the strength of Hercules alone? Superman would win from what I understood.

It really doesn't matter since both attributes are a part of him. I simply thought of highlighting the difference.

Yeah, Cap can be just as powerful as Thor, if he wants to. He took beatings from Spectre, survived being turned inside out, stood up against Thunderbolt magic, etc...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, Superman was impressed by his awareness of the world, the magical world, and his power.

Again like I said, he has to use the strength of Atlas and Hercules from what I recall.

The strength of Atlas and Hercules are both his by default so he can access both. I simply meant if he used the strength of Hercules alone? Superman would win from what I understood.

It really doesn't matter since both attributes are a part of him. I simply thought of highlighting the difference.

Nah his strength has the same deal with his durability.

His durability stat is basically shared between Achilles and Atlas the same way strength stat is shared between Hercules and Atlas. Although Herc/Achilles are credited as the main source.

He doesn't need to dip into Atlas' durability to be as durable as he is. He is that way by default. Same deal with his strength.

But seriously, all Superman mentioned about Marvel was the he 'felt SO much power' whereas Marvel was rather nonchalant about sharing with Clark for whatever reason.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yeah, Cap can be just as powerful as Thor, if he wants to. He took beatings from Spectre, survived being turned inside out, stood up against Thunderbolt magic, etc...

Really how?

So? Spectre isn't exactly all powerful, and I'm assuming you are referring to Days of Vengeance? That didn't impress me much.

That's a nice durability/pain tolerance feat. Don't see that makes him as powerful as Thor.

Thunderbolt magic? Don't recall that and I need to the scene and writer. Thunderbolt has been punked before, and as I recall in one issue it couldn't create stuff like apartments without getting them from somewhere else.

Fluctuate a lot.

Originally, Herc is pretty strong. He held up Thescyra and has the power to hold up the world. BOTH mentally and physically.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Nah his strength has the same deal with his durability.

His durability stat is basically shared between Achilles and Atlas the same way strength stat is shared between Hercules and Atlas. Although Herc/Achilles are credited as the main source.

He doesn't need to dip into Atlas' durability to be as durable as he is. He is that way by default. Same deal with his strength.

But seriously, all Superman mentioned about Marvel was the he 'felt [B]SO much power' whereas Marvel was rather nonchalant about sharing with Clark for whatever reason. [/B]

What do you mean nah? I basically said what you said. He uses the strength of Hercules and Atlas to match beings like Superman, but it doesn't matter because it's all a part of him. It's still his base strength.

Who knows.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really how?

So? Spectre isn't exactly all powerful, and I'm assuming you are referring to Days of Vengeance? That didn't impress me much.

That's a nice durability/pain tolerance feat. Don't see that makes him as powerful as Thor.

Thunderbolt magic? Don't recall that and I need to the scene and writer. Thunderbolt has been punked before, and as I recall in one issue it couldn't create stuff like apartments without getting them from somewhere else.

Fluctuate a lot.

By amping his attributes through Zeus. In one of Geoff Johns earlier JSA arcs (one with Ultra-Humanite taking over earth), he built a machine of some such to launch 5-D magic. It was said that nobody could have stood up to the attack, except Billy himself.

Billy has always been durable as hell. He even withstood the Spear of Destiny. Something Spectre couldn't handle.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Originally, Herc is pretty strong. He held up Thescyra and has the power to hold up the world. BOTH mentally and physically.

Yea Pre-Crisis.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea Pre-Crisis.

The one where he held up the world mentally and hinted he could also do it physically was in the last SHAZAM series, post crisis.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
By amping his attributes through Zeus. In one of Geoff Johns earlier JSA arcs (one with Ultra-Humanite taking over earth), he built a machine of some such to launch 5-D magic. It was said that nobody could have stood up to the attack, except Billy himself.

Billy has always been durable as hell. He even withstood the Spear of Destiny. Something Spectre couldn't handle.

Again issue number so I can read it myself. Because Thunderbolts fluctuate a lot, and you just said Geoff Johns. The guy who sucks most at power levels. Look at Spectre. Doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Thunderbolt goes from not being able to make his own apartments as I recall, to being 5D level powerful.

Don't recall that, I'm sorry to say.

You've intrigued me. I've always liked Marvel.

Even recently ran into Marvel fan trying to prove his durability and thought I saw a lot of his high end durability feats. Props to you for teaching me something I don't know.

Was this Post or Pre? What issue? I want me some Marvel showings.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The one where he held up the world mentally and hinted he could also do it physically was in the last SHAZAM series, post crisis.

Shazam as in Shazam, or Trials of Shazam? Both Atlas and Hercules did something akin to this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again issue number so I can read it myself. Because Thunderbolts fluctuate a lot, and you just said Geoff Johns. The guy who sucks most at power levels. Look at Spectre. Doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Thunderbolt goes from not being able to make his own apartments as I recall, to being 5D level powerful.

Don't recall that, I'm sorry to say.

You've intrigued me. I've always liked Marvel.

Even recently ran into Marvel fan trying to prove his durability and thought I saw a lot of his high end durability feats. Props to you for teaching me something I don't know.

Was this Post or Pre? What issue? I want me some Marvel showings.

You go to herochat, right? His feats are all there. Though, I warn you, some links to the pics don't work. At least you can view them the tiny way.

😆

Anyway, Billy's durability has always been insane. Pre-Crisis, NOTHING could hurt him. Physical, mental, magic, and energy attacks couldn't do squat. This was the golden age of their durability. Mostly, the same has been shown Post crisis. Black Adam stood up to Onimar Synn. Someone above top tier.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
You go to herochat, right? His feats are all there. Though, I warn you, some links to the pics don't work. At least you can view them the tiny way.

😆

Anyway, Billy's durability has always been insane. Pre-Crisis, NOTHING could hurt him. Physical, mental, magic, and energy attacks couldn't do squat. This was the golden age of their durability. Mostly, the same has been shown Post crisis. Black Adam stood up to Onimar Synn. Someone above top tier.

Hmm, I rather read the issues. I'll look up and read them tomorrow. Thought I read most of his impressive feats Post-Crisis.

Looked through my photobucket account. Is the thunderbolt incident when he tosses

Yea Pre-Crisis he and Adam were uber durable. Depends on what level Onimar was at.

Did you check out Powers of SHAZAM series? Those had some good issues as well.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Wasn't aware CM is such a good fighter.

im thinking CM and thor are about the same strength wise but thor is a much better fighter.

Originally posted by zeel
im thinking CM and thor are about the same strength wise but thor is a much better fighter.

but Marvel is much faster. gotta give the edge to Marvel even by the slightest.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yeah, Cap can be just as powerful as Thor, if he wants to. He took beatings from Spectre, survived being turned inside out, stood up against Thunderbolt magic, etc...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hmm, I rather read the issues. I'll look up and read them tomorrow. Thought I read most of his impressive feats Post-Crisis.

Looked through my photobucket account. Is the thunderbolt incident when he tosses

Yea Pre-Crisis he and Adam were uber durable. Depends on what level Onimar was at.

the way i see it i give marvel the win 6/10 over thor, by the rules cap wins. the only thing thor really has over marvel in this fight is exp. Marvel on the other hand is more durable then thor, faster and just as strong if not stronger.

Originally posted by supremthor
the way i see it i give marvel the win 6/10 over thor, by the rules cap wins. the only thing thor really has over marvel in this fight is exp. Marvel on the other hand is more durable then thor, faster and just as strong if not stronger.