Pre-Retcon Molecule Man Vs Cosmic Armour Superman

Started by Omega Vision7 pages

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Was Mandrakk bigger than universes when they were on the outside of the multiverse?

To Mandrakk and CA Superman the multiverse was a physical object they could probably wrap their arms around. The individual universes and their inhabitants were like germs to them.

Originally posted by galactusischere
LT would destroy the omniverse with a thought.
Galactus was doing the same thing as Mandrakk during BCA.
Pre-retcon MM made a barier more powerful than the multi-verse(same thing as omniverse back then) which Beyonder easily destroyed.

you fail to show us proof that Mandrakk was more powerful than the Presence or even the LT.


You post just proves you are just staying what you want to believe. Fact is, you haven't read Superman Beyond and you pretend you have and try to argue about it.

Was Mandrakk bigger than universes when they were on the outside of the multiverse?

Yup, but that the only places Mandrakk was. That's were he was feeding. That's how huge he was. Simply Nano Technology to Mandrakk was so powerful in DCU. Mandrakk was eating DCU alive, he even cracked the the entire sphere just by entering.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
To Mandrakk and CA Superman the multiverse was a physical object they could probably wrap their arms around. The individual universes and their inhabitants were like germs to them.

Like Superman states, "all of creation, in a jar shattered"

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You post just proves you are just staying what you want to believe. Fact is, you haven't read Superman Beyond and you pretend you have and try to argue about it.

Yup, but that the only places Mandrakk was. That's were he was feeding. That's how huge he was. Simply Nano Technology to Mandrakk was so powerful in DCU. Mandrakk was eating DCU alive, he even cracked the the entire sphere just by entering.

ok lets say that I havn't read those issues..
Give me one feat that MM couldn't do.

The problem with all such debates is that its difficult to compare one nigh-omnipotent to another. The only way we could know which one is better is if the two fought and we saw the victor in a comic book. Otherwise all we can do is speculate for the most part.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem with all such debates is that its difficult to compare one nigh-omnipotent to another. The only way we could know which one is better is if the two fought and we saw the victor in a comic book. Otherwise all we can do is speculate for the most part.

but MM WAS omnipotent

Originally posted by galactusischere
but MM WAS omnipotent

PR Beyonder was but not MM

Originally posted by Parmaniac
PR Beyonder was but not MM

When LT and Watcher beg u to protect the Multi-erVse(equivalent to omniverse back then)and u can create a barier that is more powerful than the multi-verse with ease then your omnipotent

Originally posted by galactusischere
but MM WAS omnipotent

No he wasn't. Omnipotence implies no other being can match or exceed your power which is why there is only one Supreme Being. He was nigh-omnipotent if even that.

Originally posted by galactusischere
ok lets say that I havn't read those issues..
Give me one feat that MM couldn't do.

Okay, fair enough.

Mandrakk is a cosmic vampire that feed on the bleed. The bleed was discovered by Mandrakk was he was still "good". However, when he was exposed to it, he realized he was a vampire, that he feeds on it, that he gets stronger the more he feeds on it. To stop what he is going to become, he makes CA, and seals himself. The bleed as stated a couple of times in FC is the essence, or life of DCU(not just Multiverse, or anything smaller, but entire DCU). Mandrakk eats this for breakfest. As we know, what is part of DCU? Presence? Mxy? Spectre? and soo many others. This is why he has "eternal power". In addition, he is a monitor. A single monitor can FREEZE entire universes, tank universal attacks as if it is nothing. Because he is a monitor, he can also hold the Bleed, and what is the bleed? That's right!
That female monitor and Superman explained why Mandrakk HAD to lose

His simply Nano Technology(which is soo small to them) is bigger then entire cities to us. Imagine how big a their finger is to them? Superman explained and states it as simply as he can, when Mandrakk emerged, the jar of creation(that how small it is) shattered

Originally posted by galactusischere
When LT and Watcher beg u to protect the Multi-erVse(equivalent to omniverse back then)and u can create a barier that is more powerful than the multi-verse with ease then your omnipotent

No, maybe you'd like to think, but it's not

Originally posted by galactusischere
When LT and Watcher beg u to protect the Multi-erVse(equivalent to omniverse back then)and u can create a barier that is more powerful than the multi-verse with ease then your omnipotent

And the Cosmic Armor protected its multiverse from a being that the Spectre was utterly powerless against. A being that would have eaten the multiverse otherwise.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No he wasn't. Omnipotence implies no other being can match or exceed your power which is why there is only one Supreme Being. He was nigh-omnipotent if even that.

Galactus has been said to be nigh omnipotent in comics like 5 times....
hyperbole maybe, but LT is virtually omnipotent. He is so powerful that he makes 2 beings and appoints them as guardians of mega-verses.
PR MM was even beyond him. LT was powerless against Beyonder however MM gave him a fight.

I don't know how powerful PM was but I know that the one from Beyond was atleast equal to supreme beings.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No he wasn't. Omnipotence implies no other being can match or exceed your power which is why there is only one Supreme Being. He was nigh-omnipotent if even that.

LT is said to be...but by what you say he isnt

MM fought beyonder the one who said that our universe was like a drop of water compared to him(an ocean)...much more impressive then thing looking like orbs

Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus has been said to be nigh omnipotent in comics like 5 times....
hyperbole maybe, but LT is virtually omnipotent. He is so powerful that he makes 2 beings and appoints them as guardians of mega-verses.
PR MM was even beyond him. LT was powerless against Beyonder however MM gave him a fight.

I don't know how powerful PM was but I know that the one from Beyond was atleast equal to supreme beings.


Was that retconned? Wasn't LT puny at that time?
LT isn't Omnipotent!!!

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And the Cosmic Armor protected its multiverse from a being that the Spectre was utterly powerless against. A being that would have eaten the multiverse otherwise.

Back then Multi-verse WAS omniverse.
Mandrakk Vs. LT thread, go to it.

neither is the presence then

Originally posted by bbrem123
LT is said to be...but by what you say he isnt

MM fought beyonder the one who said that our universe was like a drop of water compared to him(an ocean)...much more impressive then thing looking like orbs


You act as if MM won, and you know Beyonder was limiting himself

true but it wasnt like he didnt try...compared to all the other abstracts he was atleast some sort of threat

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay, fair enough.

Mandrakk is a cosmic vampire that feed on the bleed. The bleed was discovered by Mandrakk was he was still "good". However, when he was exposed to it, he realized he was a vampire, that he feeds on it, that he gets stronger the more he feeds on it. To stop what he is going to become, he makes CA, and seals himself. The bleed as stated a couple of times in FC is the essence, or life of DCU(not just Multiverse, or anything smaller, but entire DCU). Mandrakk eats this for breakfest. As we know, what is part of DCU? Presence? Mxy? Spectre? and soo many others. This is why he has "eternal power". In addition, he is a monitor. A single monitor can FREEZE entire universes, tank universal attacks as if it is nothing. Because he is a monitor, he can also hold the Bleed, and what is the bleed? That's right!
That female monitor and Superman explained why Mandrakk HAD to lose

His simply Nano Technology(which is soo small to them) is bigger then entire cities to us. Imagine how big a their finger is to them? Superman explained and states it as simply as he can, when Mandrakk emerged, the jar of creation(that how small it is) shattered

thats what I said.
He was feeding upon all reality.
Hes Nano tech was bigger than cities? not much of a deal really for beings in MM's league.
POST RETCON BEYONDER AND POST RETCON MM's BATTLE WAS WRECKING THE OMNIVERSE. POST
Yes monitors are each more powerful than abstracts for sure and so was MM. If MM wanted he could destroy the multi-verse and the LT with a thought. LT wouldn't have been able to do a damn thing about it.

What Mandrakk was doing so many other beings can do...
AM destroyed an "infinite" amount of universes(u said it urself).
Galactus was feeding on all reality with minor tampering.