Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
FOOL!Stakes don't kill vampires, they're just used to hold them in place while they are destroyed in some other manner. Joss Whedon has corrupted your mind!
That is true. Whedon's staking is incredibly memorable. Though not the only take on Vampire's that are killed by staking.
But yeah, you are right....so, I have even more reason to fear wooden stakes than Vampires, great, one less reason to get off my ass and out where the trees are.
Originally posted by inimalist
YouTube videoStephen King FTW
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Originally posted by inimalist
YouTube videoStephen King FTW
Good points, of course, but douchy to say if it was the author himself. Of course it isn't him though.
Originally posted by One Free Man
they can't be killed, therefor teh dramatic element of fight scenes is lost, etc.
They can be killed. But even then that's a very one dimensional view. There's no reason why something featuring a true immortal couldn't be great just as well. And also there's no reason why it should be stakes, crosses, garlic, silver and other silliness that can kill them.
To judge the book as bad on that grounds is ridiculous.
Originally posted by jaden101If only.
Originally posted by inimalist
YouTube videoStephen King FTW
Originally posted by One Free Man
they can't be killed, therefor teh dramatic element of fight scenes is lost, etc.
Originally posted by Bardock42what ac/dc said, douche nozzle. While I understand you might be number 1 in the "team edward" fanbase, the characters are flamboyantly homosexual and defeat the very definition of vampires. Next example: they also sparkle in sunlight.
They can be killed. But even then that's a very one dimensional view. There's no reason why something featuring a true immortal couldn't be great just as well. And also there's no reason why it should be stakes, crosses, garlic, silver and other silliness that can kill them.To judge the book as bad on that grounds is ridiculous.
can you imagine a true vampire:
() sparkling in sunlight and acting like star wars episode III hayden christensen with an eyeline tracking problem on screen? The characters, the entire race, is more ridiculous than gungans, and the film is based on them.
Also for the record, its the movie I'm judging, not the book.
If you want me to give reasons for the story being absolutely shite, here's the story for new moon in convenient bulletpoint events:
-Edward Leaves Bella. Apparently he thinks he can protect her more from far away because people won't try and get to him while hes gone. He's wrong.
-Bella sits despondent in front of her window for months. While some interesting camera work is seen here, the story still sucks. During nights she screams terribly and writhes in agony from her nightmares, all because her little high school boyfriend left.
-Bella meets a wolf-dude who has been protecting her from the evil red-head girl and tries to get high on adrenaline by jumping off a cliff.
-Edward's useless fortune telling sister, yes the one who couldn't see that bella would continue to be attacked after edward left, only sees the part where bella falls off the cliff. She goes to investigate.
-The wolf dude tells edward that bella is dead.
-edward goes to commit suicide.
-bella saves him by showing him she's still alive.
-edward asks her to marry him.
Originally posted by One Free Man
what ac/dc said, douche nozzle. While I understand you might be number 1 in the "team edward" fanbase, the characters are flamboyantly homosexual and defeat the very definition of vampires. Next example: they also sparkle in sunlight.can you imagine a true vampire:
() sparkling in sunlight and acting like star wars episode III hayden christensen with an eyeline tracking problem on screen? The characters, the entire race, is more ridiculous than gungans, and the film is based on them.Also for the record, its the movie I'm judging, not the book.
If you want me to give reasons for the story being absolutely shite, here's the story for new moon in convenient bulletpoint events:
-Edward Leaves Bella. Apparently he thinks he can protect her more from far away because people won't try and get to him while hes gone. He's wrong.
-Bella sits despondent in front of her window for months. While some interesting camera work is seen here, the story still sucks. During nights she screams terribly and writhes in agony from her nightmares, all because her little high school boyfriend left.
-Bella meets a wolf-dude who has been protecting her from the evil red-head girl and tries to get high on adrenaline by jumping off a cliff.
-Edward's useless fortune telling sister, yes the one who couldn't see that bella would continue to be attacked after edward left, only sees the part where bella falls off the cliff. She goes to investigate.
-The wolf dude tells edward that bella is dead.
-edward goes to commit suicide.
-bella saves him by showing him she's still alive.
-edward asks her to marry him.
What an odd display of a most elaborate straw man argument.
Nowhere did I say that I liked Twilight in any form, nor that I thought Edward was in any way a good character, as a matter of fact the first thing I said in this thread was: "I find Twilight to be incredibly bad, for a multitude of reasons"
I believe my argument actually was that your point of "garlic, wooden stakes through the heart, and silver crossbow bullets" not doing anything to twilight vampires is not a valid factor in judging whether it is a worthwhile piece of art, imo. I understand that, to you personally, that might make the movie not enjoyable, but like I said, there could be a terrific film with that exact set up, so this is not an issue I would consider as a problem of the movie, on a somewhat more objective plane.
Originally posted by Bardock42Interview with the Vampire.I believe my argument actually was that your point of "garlic, wooden stakes through the heart, and silver crossbow bullets" not doing anything to twilight vampires is not a valid factor in judging whether it is a worthwhile piece of art, imo. I understand that, to you personally, that might make the movie not enjoyable, but like I said, there could be a terrific film with that exact set up, so this is not an issue I would consider as a problem of the movie, on a somewhat more objective plane.