but who was the old coot? if you mean Icarus then I dont remember them doing anything other than flipping eachother over while in the air?
The statue was pretty much a cutscene as well with some player interaction.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
The whole "Spartan" cliche is getting old anyway...
Spartans were undeniably skilled as soldiers/fighters, their lives were based on it...you cant just ignore it. Regardless of any shortcomings of real spartans, its made clear throughout God of War that Kratos was not a shortcoming, that he was a fighter from the start even as a boy.
Ganons never done half of what Kratos has done. Does Ganon even have any physical strength feats at all? not even real durability feats...Aside from being stated to be stronger than Link he's punched a floor so hard it collapsed, in OoT, flown throgh a magicly reinforced temple wall in aLttP as a bat. that's like a dove taking out the world trade center.. Disintegrated someone with a punch, ect.
Also, tanking a hit so strong it blew up the castle around him without damage? that's like me kicking you in the nuts so hard your house explodes, and you shrug it off?
He doesnt need feats when his background outlines his skill far above Link.Spartans > Heroes chosen by the gods with preternatural skill, who are further trained by past heroes? Also, Spartans only ever used small short swords as a sec ondary weapon.. Kratos has no idea how to use somethign that size of a hand and a half sword like the Master sword, or somethign as big as the BoO.
not really since one Titan would crush the Sacred realm....Not really, since it can contain Ganon for extended periods of time, even with the entire triforce.
Originally posted by iChaos
That was Kratos with his God of War powers, and he pushed it. But yeah, he struggled to bang those old dudes on that book.
Kratos was depowered at that point. Although you could hear one of the soldiers say something along the lines of: "Look out, he still has some godly powers in him!".
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Kratos, stronger? We can look at Kratos opening a door or pushing a block and deduce that he is nothing of the sort.
What happens when Link tries to open a chest or move a block?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The above is false.Atlas never tried to kill Kratos. But yeah, Kratos feats aren't actually that incredible strengthwise. 😐 When you actually look at them, Ganon is stronger physicly. He's also far more durable. And Kratos has no feats of swordsmanship, Link does.
The Mastersword can lay down a seal on the entire sacred realm, that > sealign a few titans.
So you think Atlas was just giving Kratos something to do? A fraction of Atlas strength is still immense.
He's going to lay down a seal faster than someone who can react to lightning who's making the same swipe Zeus did to end a war with all titans and not just a few? Zeus didn't seal a few titans, he defeated them all.
And there were only a few of them, Wei.
But yeah, Atlas was clearly not tryign to huirt Kratos, and didn't apply any more than he knew Kratos could handle. This is like when a (trained) grizzly bear plays with a human. It could crush you, easy, but it has no intention of harming you.
And yeah, Kratos has never done that with the BoO, and Kratos is evil, so Link is protected anyway, Link stabs Kratos.. That's really it.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Aside from being stated to be stronger than Link he's punched a floor so hard it collapsed, in OoT, flown throgh a magicly reinforced temple wall in aLttP as a bat. that's like a dove taking out the world trade center.. Disintegrated someone with a punch, ect.Also, tanking a hit so strong it blew up the castle around him without damage? that's like me kicking you in the nuts so hard your house explodes, and you shrug it off?
Spartans > Heroes chosen by the gods with preternatural skill, who are further trained by past heroes? Also, Spartans only ever used small short swords as a sec ondary weapon.. Kratos has no idea how to use somethign that size of a hand and a half sword like the Master sword, or somethign as big as the BoO.
Not really, since it can contain Ganon for extended periods of time, even with the entire triforce.
These are not half as impressive as flipping a 30 meter tall statue of bronze...
rubbish, he was nothing but a ghost form, he was not physical.
Yes, ofcourse Spartans are, their trained masters of combat. Trained throughout the young lives and in kratos' case, trained throughout his older life against not just men, armies and soldiers but monsters.
You think training with that particulour sword is all Spartans have as part of their training? their entire lives are combat training, the fact hes been trained in the use of one type of sword does not mean he is useless if you put any other weapon in his hand. Thats an absurd answer.
Ganon according to you never succeeded with the entire triforce, he never did much of anything with it. The wiki says as soon as he touched it it split into its 3 piecies.
Originally posted by iChaos
Not saying your wrong, but when was this said?
The secrets you unlock after completing very hard or God mode in GoW 1, you learn about his past and a possible future story concerning a brother he may have had.
These are not half as impressive as flipping a 30 meter tall statue of bronze...Yes they are. The statue was hollow 😛
rubbish, he was nothing but a ghost form, he was not physical.and yet the attack still hit him.
Yes, ofcourse Spartans are, their trained masters of combat. Trained throughout the young lives and in kratos' case, trained throughout his older life against not just men, armies and soldiers but monsters.I lol'd. Link has skill on Kratos in spades, boyo.
You think training with that particulour sword is all Spartans have as part of their training? their entire lives are combat training, the fact hes been trained in the use of one type of sword does not mean he is useless if you put any other weapon in his hand. Thats an absurd answer.Eat historical fact: The only sword Spartans used was a short sword. I win. 😄
Ganon according to you never succeeded with the entire triforce, he never did much of anything with it. The wiki says as soon as he touched it it split into its 3 piecies.Play a Zelda game.
Originally posted by iChaos
@BT: That's non-canon, lol. But yeah, it really wouldn't matter.
The stoyrline is not made but its developer designed information so Kratos' background may indeed be canon. It was a common occurance in Spartan history anyway.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Creating an entire alternate universe with the Triforce isnt much of anything? I lmao.
Zeldapedia claims Ganon didnt create anything, it simply happened and the triforce broke. Ganon never got his wish to rule the world.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes they are. The statue was hollow 😛
and yet the attack still hit him.I lol'd. Link has skill on Kratos in spades, boyo.
Eat historical fact: The only sword Spartans used was a short sword. I win. 😄
Play a Zelda game.
It was filled with a wooden and iron scaffholding so no, it was not completly hollow. Still far larger and greater than breaking up some floor.
Not at all laddie. hes a little guy with zero experiacne. Kratos has a life of experiance and training as well as the direct blessing of Ares who actually says he is molding him into a great warrior unlike the apprent gods who "chose" Link....youve never shown evidence of them aspiring to make him a great warrior.
Not really, you didnt actually answer what I said. You seem to have a problem with answering an argument as someone else has said in this thread already.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
He kicks it, it opens. He pushes it (as a kid) it moves. Young Link = badass
He does not kick open big chests and this is how adult link pushes blocks? Point is, you're trying to use in game mechanics of Kratos opening a chest as evidence of his strength.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And there were only a few of them, Wei.But yeah, Atlas was clearly not tryign to huirt Kratos, and didn't apply any more than he knew Kratos could handle. This is like when a (trained) grizzly bear plays with a human. It could crush you, easy, but it has no intention of harming you.
And yeah, Kratos has never done that with the BoO, and Kratos is evil, so Link is protected anyway, Link stabs Kratos.. That's really it.
As someone already said he's Chaotic Neutral at best, he doesn't just go around kill everyone in sight, if you impede his journey then he removes you from his path. Someone who is so evil wouldn't beg for forgiveness, he wouldn't mourn the deaths of his family nor look surprised when he Athena took the blade for Zeus. He genuinely didn't want to kill her.
Also how did Atlas not want to hurt Kratos when he said he'll make him suffer?