DC's Hermes vs The Runner

Started by Zeuodin6 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's obviously not impossible, because according to the omniscient narrator that's exactly what happened. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's a comic book...
The narrator also gave the numbers. Numbers trump statement anyday.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
The narrator also gave the numbers. Numbers trump statement anyday.
questionable.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
The narrator also gave the numbers. Numbers trump statement anyday.

No numbers=statement. Thus he did indeed pull off the feat just as we saw... but he did it at near lightspeed. I know that it's impossible by the physical laws of the "real world", but luckily enough for us it happened in a comic book rather than a school text book so we don't really have to stress over it too much...

And just to clarify does your stance mean that you believe that PC Supes's uses bad "Super Math"(and thus would get math problems wrong if it came up on the forum) since he got his numbers wrong but was stated as being correct in the story?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
The narrator also gave the numbers. Numbers trump statement anyday.

Nonsense. Statements are better because it shows what the writer's intention was.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Nonsense. Statements are better because it shows what the writer's intention was.
No. If that were true, he wouldn't have given numbers. If your mom says you have three hours to clean your room and it's twelve, and she comes back at 2pm, and says you should be done, clearly her intent was 3pm. Numbers are facts and always trump everything else.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. If that were true, he wouldn't have given numbers. If your mom says you have three hours to clean your room and it's twelve, and she comes back at 2pm, and says you should be done, clearly her intent was 3pm. Numbers are facts and always trump everything else.

Ah, so COIE is a BS story then since there's no way anyone could actually destroy all but 5 of an infinite number of universes right? So how many did AM take out?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah, so COIE is a BS story then since there's no way anyone could actually destroy all but 5 of an infinite number of universes right? So how many did AM take out?
Infinite number. The five that were left would still be part of infinity. 5+infinity is still infinity.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Infinite number. The five that were left would still be part of infinity. 5+infinity is still infinity.

He couldn't have cut infinity down to 5 though. Infinity minus what equals 5?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. If that were true, he wouldn't have given numbers. If your mom says you have three hours to clean your room and it's twelve, and she comes back at 2pm, and says you should be done, clearly her intent was 3pm. Numbers are facts and always trump everything else.

Unless those numbers are based off of a fictional writer who certainly isn't a math major and he states near light speed.

How many other feats does the flash have to back up that lvl of speed consistently..........right, so there again the writers narration of the scene should be the noted intent.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. If that were true, he wouldn't have given numbers. If your mom says you have three hours to clean your room and it's twelve, and she comes back at 2pm, and says you should be done, clearly her intent was 3pm. Numbers are facts and always trump everything else.

All numbers mean is he threw out a bunch of numbers to make Flash seem impressive. He didn't know what they added up to (I think he even admitted it in response to a letter later). He wanted flash to go just under lightspeed, and all the numbers represent is "wow look Flash is really amazing guyz!"

Originally posted by Chopsum
Unless those numbers are based off of a fictional writer who certainly isn't a math major and he states near light speed.

How many other feats does the flash have to back up that lvl of speed consistently..........right, so there again the writers narration of the scene should be the noted intent.

Flash moves near light speed EASILY. Superman has moved far in excess of light. Like way faster. and yet he couldn't keep up with flash and zoom. so yeah, flash runs far faster than light all of the time.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Flash moves near light speed EASILY. Superman has moved far in excess of light. Like way faster. and yet he couldn't keep up with flash and zoom. so yeah, flash runs far faster than light all of the time.

No he doesn't move the speed in which those numbers would indicate, I never said he couldn't move close to light speed but not many multiples of light speed.

Hence the narrators intent is what should be taken into account.

Originally posted by Chopsum
No he doesn't move the speed in which those numbers would indicate, I never said he couldn't move close to light speed but not many [b]multiples of light speed.

Hence the narrators intent is what should be taken into account. [/B]

Superman flew from Vega to Earth in like a minute. That is hundreds of thousands if not millions of times faster than earth. and yet he couldn't keep up with zoom and flash. So yeah, faster than light by many many many times.

Was there ever a time where superman was ever stated on panel to be faster than light? Just curious.

Hermes ftw

Originally posted by King Kandy
Was there ever a time where superman was ever stated on panel to be faster than light? Just curious.
When do statements hold that much weight? Hyperbole is ridiculous. Especially in marvel comics. I take statements with a grain of salt.

Like I said, just curious. I don't put much weight on trying to figure out feats with math, because in all likelihood the writer had no idea the levels it would actually take to do them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Like I said, just curious. I don't put much weight on trying to figure out feats with math, because in all likelihood the writer had no idea the levels it would actually take to do them.
Just like they had no idea how much power it would take to destroy a galaxy, but they wrote it anyway. It goes both ways. And the same Gods couldn't with all their power combined could only knock a planet out of orbit? Written feats without proper examination are worthless. We know flash and Superman both have travelled far far in excess of C.

The difference being, we actually saw galaxies being destroyed.

I know Flash has traveled C+. Was there ever a statement saying superman can?

Originally posted by King Kandy
The difference being, we actually saw galaxies being destroyed.

I know Flash has traveled C+. Was there ever a statement saying superman can?

We saw dead galaxies. But we also saw Odin with three other Gods put all their Might into a blow that could knock a Planet out of orbit. Written feats on their own hold no weight. One has to use applied math principles or the feat means nothing. Superman flew from Vega To earth in seconds. Easily hundreds of thousands of times faster than Light.