Pre Crisis Darkseid Vs Thanos and Odin

You can make a case that Odin could beat PC DS but Thanos has never beaten anyone on that level without a serious external amp.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Im pretty sure the maker did 1 shot him

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
It's not an alternate timeline, especially when the pre-crisis Darkseid is the one that's being used. Are trying to say that the Legion of Superheroes continuity doesn't fit in the pre-crisis era? It sure does seem like it. Like I said Gds Ds=pc Ds=modern Ds.🙂

Galactus could of killed Thanos with ease, The Maker was barely herald level in the state Thanos fought her in(that's probably being to generous), Odin could've beaten Thanos, and Tyrant had the upper hand on Thanos. You referring to characters like Odin and Tyrant, that are no way in hell as powerful as Gds Seid, really hurts your case rather than help it. If he can curbstomp the entire Losh, Validus, Mordru, and a controller, then what in blue hell could Thanos do against him?

We cannot apply future feats to a character who has no recollection of them.

Galactus taxed himself just breaking through his shields. I don't see him taxing himself at all where Pre crisis Ds is concerned.

Incorrect. The Maker was a reality warper and had the power to ko Thanos which is something Odin and Tyrant have been unable to do.

Odin Didn't beat Thanos. Odin Wanted to kill Thanos. Thanos received an upgrade and has become more powerful since then.

Tyrant also had the power to take on Galactus. The characters he throws down with are on a much higher scale than Ds. That's the point I have been ramming home here.

Mordru was taken by surprise. That's not the same as beating someone in an all out fight. Context.

The crisis also didn't affect Darkseid.

Yo.

Odin didnt beat Thanos? LIE.

when all was said & done Thanos was the one on his knees; the only thing Odin didnt make him do was *submit*.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
DS is dead as well. We assume the characters are alive and as they were just before death (most recent) unless stated otherwise.

he's not dead, but just.......taking a power nap is all

😉

Tazer

PC DS I believe takes them.

Odin is the only serious threat.
Thanos is a non factor in this fight.

So actually it's a PC DS vs Odin thread and i give DS a slight edge.

As for GDS of course it's canon as is the Foundations storyline.

Legion of Three Worlds made that clear.

PS Odin imo is more stronger then them individually. Though, I don't see how he can win against both

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, because his guard was down. When he came back for an all out battle he dominated her and then crushed her. If something happens in the future and Ds has no recollection of the said feats it only applies to gds Seid. We cannot apply future feats to a character who has no recollection of them.

Again pc Darkseid=Gds Darkseid=modern Darkseid. They're the same character with to some extent, the same powerset.

Galactus taxed himself just breaking through his shields. I don't see him taxing himself at all where Pre crisis Ds is concerned.

Incorrect. The Maker was a reality warper and had the power to ko Thanos which is something Odin and Tyrant have been unable to do.

Odin Didn't beat Thanos. Odin Wanted to kill Thanos. Thanos received an upgrade and has become more powerful since then.

Tyrant also had the power to take on Galactus. The characters he throws down with are on a much higher scale than Ds. That's the point I have been ramming home here.

Mordru was taken by surprise. That's not the same as beating someone in an all out fight. Context.

The crisis also didn't affect Darkseid.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Galactus taxed himself just breaking through his shields. I don't see him taxing himself at all where Pre crisis Ds is concerned.

Odin Didn't beat Thanos. Odin Wanted to kill Thanos. Thanos received an upgrade and has become more powerful since then.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's unheard of to use a stomping by another character as proof of Yat's (replace Yat with Thanos) uberness.

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Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Odin didnt beat Thanos? LIE.

when all was said & done Thanos was the one on his knees; the only thing Odin didnt make him do was *submit*.

Tazer

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
That's not the forum rule and you know it. Only versions of characters from alternate timelines are barred from debates. Was the pre-crisis Legion of superheroes timestream a alternate timeline? Nope. Your trying to write it off as a if its a what if story, which is a big logical loophole on your behalf. It doesn't matter if it occurred in the future, Great Darkness saga was canon to the pre-crisis continuity and that's all that matters. You don't have much of case against it, because Gds Darkseid himself said that he was weaker then his Kirby era self.

Again pc Darkseid=Gds Darkseid=modern Darkseid. They're the same character with to some extent, the same powerset.

Taxed himself? I clearly recall Thanos begging like a crack whore. This is another feat that's infamously blown out of proportion by rabid Thanos fans. It's another instance where Thanos could of been killed easily, yet fanboys insist otherwise simply because he survived. Context.

🙄 Yes, reality warper that didn't have full control of her powers [b]and was locked in a insane asylum. Like you said buddy, context.

If the fight had dragged out any longer, and if not for Thanos's durability, I believe he would of died. In fact I fill that this feat actual hurts Odin's credibility as a legitimate galaxy buster(which could be argued to be narrative hyperbole). And Thanos's upgrade was never referenced in later stories from what I know and he never exhibited greater power.

Full powered Tyrant, someone Thanos never faced. Context.

He was one shotted......by a shriveled up Darkseid(or servant), while he was facing the said character....Mordru was curbstomped and humbled, plain simple. I don't know why you insist on using this same argument to this day. Honestly, in an alternate outcome where Mordru knew what Ds was up to, he wouldn't of done any better.

Thank you. 🙂 Which is why pc Darkseid=Gds Darkseid=modern Darkseid. [/B]

It's been years and you still don't have a clue.

If pc Ds equals modern Ds then I take it Superman>precrisis Ds, eh? LOL.

Galactus' own comments state he needs to feed because of the exertion needed to destroy his shields. It's right on the panel black and white. I never suggested Thanos can defeat Galactus straight up. Get with the program here, starking.

She did have her powers her memory was jumbled and she was susceptible to mind attacks while Thanos beat her easily, and held back because killing her would release her energy and make her even more dangerous.

Odin has been in plenty of fights without galaxies being destroyed. I guess when planet destroyers get in fights and the planet remains intact it hurts their stock as well. I guess that Prime fight against Ion which failed to destroy a cemetery hurts Prime's credibility. Use your head.

Odin was out to kill him and didn't do so. Thanos wanted to continue and the fight was stopped by someone other than Thanos. Fact.

Again, Mordru was taken by surprise. He had no clue it was Ds he faced. Context.

Tyrant took on Galactus while depowered and was beating him. Tyrant depowered took on Thanos and was winning. Clueless as when you left.

I'm more than willing to accept DD's win, Raker's humiliation of Ds, Superman completely stomping him and adding that to the whole record of Ds.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Team stomps him good!

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you read the comic then you'd realize it's you who is lying not me.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512650#post4512650
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512662#post4512662
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512666#post4512666

so tell me, if he was "trying to kill Thanos".............why would he even bother asking him to submit??

so as I said: YOU LIED.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512650#post4512650
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512662#post4512662
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512666#post4512666

so tell me, if he was "trying to kill Thanos".............why would he even bother asking him to submit??

so as I said: YOU LIED.

Tazer

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because after he realized he wasn't killed he gave him a chance to submit to him. Odin and pretty much all of asgard is impressed by courage. The fact he traded blows for an out to kill Odin impressed the hell out of him. He already earlier admitted he wanted to kill Thanos. You just proved you can't comprehend what it is you read.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What proof do you have Odin wouldn't have killed him if not for the interruption?

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because after he realized he wasn't killed he gave him a chance to submit to him. Odin and pretty much all of asgard is impressed by courage. The fact he traded blows for an out to kill Odin impressed the hell out of him. He already earlier admitted he wanted to kill Thanos. You just proved you can't comprehend what it is you read.

so, U think that Odin "tried to kill him" only once, and then GAVE UP?!??

Odin had Thanos down TWICE (as seen in those 3 pics), the most he did to Odin was make him angry, and claiming that he didnt beat Thanos is naught but a LIE from *U*.

but then again, this is part the course for ya........

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's speculation either way. What proof do you have Thanos wouldn't have killed him.

Thanos being dropped TWICE says that outcome wouldve been unlikely......

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

so, U think that Odin "tried to kill him" only once, and then GAVE UP?!??

Odin had Thanos down TWICE (as seen in those 3 pics), the most he did to Odin was make him angry, and claiming that he didnt beat Thanos is naught but a LIE from *U*.

but then again, this is part the course for ya........

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Thanos being dropped TWICE says that outcome wouldve been unlikely......

Tazer

Team

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Odin was trying to kill him the entire time. Odin thought he was defeated and when he realized Thanos was still alive and ready for more he gave him the option of submitting. Thanos wanted nothing of it.

I dont see how U could think that, since its not like he made any real move to kill any of the other less-powerful-than-Thanos beings he fought that issue. Thanos called it right in the 1st panel of this pages just b4 the slug-fest kicked off: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512590#post4512590

also, and while I agree that the goals of a fight can change mid-stream, I dont see that being so here: they fought, Odin dropped Thanos twice & was shown to NOT be Odins equal here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because a fight starts out one way that doesn't mean it can't end another way. take for instance the Spectre/Shazam fight or the Mongul/Sinestro fight.

fine, but theres was a test of "power divine vs power scientifically gleaned"............and Odin showed his mettle was the stronger of the 2.

ergo, Odin WON.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

I dont see how U could think that, since its not like he made any real move to kill any of the other less-powerful-than-Thanos beings he fought that issue. Thanos called it right in the 1st panel of this pages just b4 the slug-fest kicked off: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4512590#post4512590

also, and while I agree that the goals of a fight can change mid-stream, I dont see that being so here: they fought, Odin dropped Thanos twice & was shown to NOT be Odins equal here.

fine, but theres was a test of "power divine vs power scientifically gleaned"............and Odin showed his mettle was the stronger of the 2.

ergo, Odin WON.

Tazer

Thanks.

Secondly, Odin was winning he hadn't won otherwise why would he ask him to yield?

If you win you don't have to ask ya just know.