Pre Crisis Darkseid Vs Thanos and Odin

Started by Tazer8 pages

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You posted a link to a scan in which Odin admitted he was going to murder him.

Thanks.

Secondly, Odin was winning he hadn't won otherwise why would he ask him to yield?

If you win you don't have to ask ya just know.

Odin doesnt mention anything about murdering him, but nice try of using the word "doom" out of context to wat was actually happening.

secondly, out of 2 attempts to stand up to Odin, Thanos got put down twice; that counts as 2 wins no matter how U look at it, and Thanos getting up & refusing to yield is incidental to that.

Tazer

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Odin was trying to kill him the entire time. Odin thought he was defeated and when he realized Thanos was still alive and ready for more he gave him the option of submitting. Thanos wanted nothing of it. Just because a fight starts out one way that doesn't mean it can't end another way. take for instance the Spectre/Shazam fight or the Mongul/Sinestro fight.

Let's see here. As for Shazam/Spectre well it was really just wishful thinking on Shazam's part that he could win. His failure to defeat Mordru pretty much cements that he was doomed from the start.
As for Mongul/Sinestro well IIRC Sinestro won because he could override the rings Mongul had on him for a narrow win. Now if Thanos could somehow have done the same to Gungir your argument would make sense but as it stands Thanos had nothing that presented an immediate threat to Odin. All things considered he lucked out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you read the comic then you'd realize it's you who is lying not me. Deal with reality don't hide from it. Yes, and something occurring in the future is an alternate timeline. It's like you don't even know what an alternate time line is. Gds Seid isn't Precrisis Seid no matter how bad you want him to be. .
facepalm Wow......I have to hand it you Quan, after all these years of contradicting statements, double standard lowballing, and blatant hypocrisy, you've managed to be consistent in one aspect...your still the same childish, smug, simpleton poster you were when you first came here. The saddest thing about you about you is that your typing out of your rear end as if of your posting something witty and logical. You have no clue of what an alternate timeline is and please, don't pretend like you do. The future timeline isn't always an alternate timestream. By saying so your inferring that the Legion of Superheroes, doesn't fit in Dcu canon. An alternate timeline is a timestream created from tampering with events from the past. In most fictional works, it's depicted as the a different reality from the present. That's means that the current Dcu or Mu could potentially become an alternate timeline if a past event was changed, thus establishing a different outcome. I'm pretty sure you've never watched the Back to the future triology and if you did, probably went over your head like the comics you read.

He also absorbed other powers so don't like he was just straight up Ds
This is almost as bad as trolling. You've been given context to the story several times, that stated that Darkseid was still not up to par with his past self. Your the main one whose telling people to acknowledge context, yet you not only disregard it, you flat out twist to your own advantage.

It's been years and you still don't have a clue.
There's so many things I could type to refute this statement but let me just make it simple. Your Quanchi112.....your the posterboy of ignorance and hypocrisy. And I promise you, this is what the majority of the websites you've visited and its posters think of you.

If pc Ds equals modern Ds then I take it Superman>precrisis Ds, eh? LOL.
Well if I use your the same kind of half witted reasoning, that post-crisis Seid is a Rhino level jobber then yes

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Odin has been in plenty of fights without galaxies being destroyed. I guess when planet destroyers get in fights and the planet remains intact it hurts their stock as well. I guess that Prime fight against Ion which failed to destroy a cemetery hurts Prime's credibility. Use your head.
The only reason I brought that up is because Odin NEVER destroyed a galaxy on panel. It was only described through narration, and then Odin NEVER exhibited that level of power again. That's my two cents on the whole deal, but I may have to study the subject a little more to come up with a more clear opinion.

Odin was out to kill him and didn't do so. Thanos wanted to continue and the fight was stopped by someone other than Thanos. Fact.
I forgot how terrible you are at debating. Restating yourself without providing any relevant details to support your case, isn't debating....it's something more on the lines as a yelling contest.

Again, Mordru was taken by surprise. He had no clue it was Ds he faced. Context.
I forgot how terrible you are at debating. Restating yourself without providing any relevant details to support your case, isn't debating....it's something more on the lines as a yelling contest.

Notice how I copied and pasted my previous statement?

Tyrant took on Galactus while depowered and was beating him. Tyrant depowered took on Thanos and was winning. Clueless as when you left.
Why are you such a terrible liar.😆 You know damn well that Tyrant didn't face Galactus with his own powerset. That feat is irrelevant, as well as another sad attempt at wanking Thanos. Seriously, you inferring that Thanos can hang with Galan is more laughable than me using Gds Darkseid's feats.

I'm more than willing to accept DD's win, Raker's humiliation of Ds, Superman completely stomping him and adding that to the whole record of Ds.
Though these feats are pretty much exaggerated and misinterpreted, I'm not going to bother giving them a thorough response. All I'm going to say is that Final Crisis pretty much established that every Darkseid appearance before then, was an avatar. Ds's inconsistency is most likely due to this effect and is the most rational explanation to his track record.

I missed these two.

Galactus' own comments state he needs to feed because of the exertion needed to destroy his shields. It's right on the panel black and white. I never suggested Thanos can defeat Galactus straight up. Get with the program here, starking.
I'm sorry but your giving the mad titan waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit here. According to Galan's own statements, the shields weren't created with his own powerset.

Considering that Thanos is a transcendent leveler, and he yet he still had him beaten easily, tells me that Galan was only giving him credit being exactly what he is....a transcendent leveler. He was impressed by him, for the same reason Jesse Owens would be impressed by a special olympics winner. Unless you think that Thanos is a tougher adversary than the various abstract level threats, that Galactus has faced....

She did have her powers her memory was jumbled and she was susceptible to mind attacks while Thanos beat her easily, and held back because killing her would release her energy and make her even more dangerous
Exactly Thanos beat a Maker that was holding back an assload of power. Thus the feat is irrelevant

Galactus was only impressed by the FF tech 😐 ?

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Odin doesnt mention anything about murdering him, but nice try of using the word "doom" out of context to wat was actually happening.

secondly, out of 2 attempts to stand up to Odin, Thanos got put down twice; that counts as 2 wins no matter how U look at it, and Thanos getting up & refusing to yield is incidental to that.

Tazer

Odin says he was going to correct the problem of Thanos' continued breathing. What does that mean to you?

And it seems like you are the same kind of internet parasite who has run off only to show up with the same tired arguments of 2007 which are still completely false and wishful thinking on your part.

The point is Mordru wasn't aware of who he faced. If he'd have known the great Darkseid stood before him he would have shown him the respect he deserved and not stood there aloof. It's correct and your definition of trolling always cracked me up. When I provide you with context don't ignore it.

Ds was very powerful in that story so stating he wasn't up to his classic levels is being completely stupid when reading his apokolips now/hunter prey/green lantern giant annual appearances.

People don't know who you are on the websites you go as you hide in the dark/disappear for years, and contribute nothing that stands out whatsoever. Stick to the topic, sport.

He isn't jobbing that's the thing. That's where you have always been wrong. He isn't up to Superman's level of combat formidability nowadays. That much has been painfully apparent to those not wearing new gods t shirts.

You don't have a clue about Odin. The point is collateral damage doesn't prove anything. As of 1996 he affected the space/time continuum and the muliverse during his battle with Seth. Get a clue.

Odin stated he was rectify Thanos' breathing meaning he will kill him. I know you need someone else to break down these cryptic words but come on man.

Tyrant did challenge Galactus under his own powerset. I know you didn't read the story so save yourself the trouble. When did I state Thanos can take on Galactus? You really haven't changed a bit. LOL.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I missed these two. I'm sorry but your giving the mad titan waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit here. According to Galan's own statements, the shields weren't created with his own powerset.

Considering that Thanos is a transcendent leveler, and he yet he still had him beaten easily, tells me that Galan was only giving him credit being exactly what he is....a transcendent leveler. He was impressed by him, for the same reason Jesse Owens would be impressed by a special olympics winner. Unless you think that Thanos is a tougher adversary than the various abstract level threats, that Galactus has faced....

Exactly Thanos beat a Maker that was holding back an assload of power. Thus the feat is [b]irrelevant [/B]

Thanos uses tech for alot of his powers. You just showed your ignorance once again. I mean you just showed me you don't know a thing about Thanos yet you continue to debate against him.

Galactus deplted vital energies destroying his shield. That's a fact.

The rest of your post is just ignorance and commentary by starking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Thanos uses tech for alot of his powers. You just showed your ignorance once again. I mean you just showed me you don't know a thing about Thanos yet you continue to debate against him.
I already know Thanos uses cybernetic enhancements dimwit, the fact that Galactus commented on it seems to imply it's not standard equipment. And I do know a lot about your would be boyfriend, such as not having the ability to fly, barely possesing superhuman reflexes, not being a legitimate matter manipulator, and not having strength feats to put him in a post crisis Superman's strength range.🙂

Galactus deplted vital energies destroying his shield. That's a fact.
Oh noez, I quess I missed that part of text. I quess I need your "special" Quan vision to see it, amirite buddy? All that matters is that you where spouting bullshit about that feat as if it's enough to put him on par with the other characters in this thread. Even if Galactus did deplete some energy doing so, it was still a easy feat for Galan to achieve. Gtfo if that's the best you can come up with.

The rest of your post is just ignorance and commentary by starking.
Ignorance is your specialty bub, I leave that job to you. 🙂

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I already know Thanos uses cybernetic enhancements dimwit, the fact that Galactus commented on it seems to imply it's not standard equipment. And I do know a lot about your would be boyfriend, such as not having the ability to fly, barely possesing superhuman reflexes, not being a legitimate matter manipulator, and not having strength feats to put him in a post crisis Superman's strength range.🙂

Oh noez, I quess I missed that part of text. I quess I need your "special" Quan vision to see it, amirite buddy? All that matters is that you where spouting bullshit about that feat as if it's enough to put him on par with the other characters in this thread. Even if Galactus did deplete some energy doing so, it was still a easy feat for Galan to achieve. Gtfo if that's the best you can come up with.

Ignorance is your specialty bub, I leave that job to you. 🙂

When does he state that it's outside tech that isn't usually at Thanos' request? When? More like wishful thinking on your part because he implies no such thing.

He doesn't need to fly he can levitate and teleport. His reflexes are very fast. Examples such as him avoiding the Surfer's bltiz in ig and him reacting to the Fallen One's attack.

I guess turning a skrull into a stone means nothing to you. His strength far exceeds Superman's whose strength is equal to Captain Marvel's. Here''s the thing star, Thanos can take on a power gem wielding Thor and hold his own. He can overpower the Hulk and the thing simultaneously while Superman can doubt his strength against Subjekt 17. He can destroy the Silver Surfer in a few blows. You see he is well above a top tier. Superman isn't.

Word for word exactly what I stated. 😂

Everything I state is rooted in common sense and backed by the comics while everything you say isn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin says he was going to correct the problem of Thanos' continued breathing. What does that mean to you?

And it seems like you are the same kind of internet parasite who has run off only to show up with the same tired arguments of 2007 which are still completely false and wishful thinking on your part.

The point is Mordru wasn't aware of who he faced. If he'd have known the great Darkseid stood before him he would have shown him the respect he deserved and not stood there aloof. It's correct and your definition of trolling always cracked me up. When I provide you with context don't ignore it.
I would ask you if your mentally handicapped, but I already know the answer to that question.....Mordru was not only one shotted by Darkseid, he was [b]afraid
of him after realizing who he was. For someone whose bold enough to call someone out on their comic knowledge, you sure do act as if you don't know what the hell your talking about yourself. Stop grasping at straws and quit your pathetic low balling. The reason people accuse of trolling is because they honestly feel that there's no way in hell someone can be so unintelligent. It's almost as if your pretending to be that way, just so you can spread chaos.

[quote]Ds was very powerful in that story so stating he wasn't up to his classic levels is being completely stupid when reading his apokolips now/hunter prey/green lantern giant annual appearances.

facepalm You've been warned and banned for this low balling before. Just keep it up though, I really want to see you perma-banned.

People don't know who you are on the websites you go as you hide in the dark/disappear for years, and contribute nothing that stands out whatsoever. Stick to the topic, sport.[quote] Wtf are you talking about? What am I supposed to do, participate in a battlezone and lose every time like you? donate money to this website? I not here trying to make a name for myself, but I do want to present myself as reasonable and honest. Hell, like you have room to talk anyway, you have no crediblilty and no one takes you seriously. Does this not bother you at all? I quess I should take your advice and follow footstep.......

[quote]He isn't jobbing that's the thing. That's where you have always been wrong. He isn't up to Superman's level of combat formidability nowadays. That much has been painfully apparent to those not wearing new gods t shirts.

Like I said keep it up.🙂 You'll either receive a warning from the mods or even worst.

You don't have a clue about Odin. The point is collateral damage doesn't prove anything. As of 1996 he affected the space/time continuum and the muliverse during his battle with Seth. Get a clue.
Orly? Have you ever heard of narrative hyperbole? Fyi the fight took place on a planetoid, that oddly enough was still intact during their fight.......

Odin stated he was rectify Thanos' breathing meaning he will kill him. I know you need someone else to break down these cryptic words but come on man.
😐.....when did I say he wasn't trying to kill him? That wasn't my initial argument. Thanks for trying, but you may want to work on your reading skills before posting.👆

Tyrant did challenge Galactus under his own powerset. I know you didn't read the story so save yourself the trouble. When did I state Thanos can take on Galactus? You really haven't changed a bit. LOL. [/B]
Stop lying, Galactus faced dp Tyrant with tech and prep....the isn't me Quan, it's your poor reading comprehension skills.....and the Thanos showing against Galactus is nothing to get excited about. He was curbstomped, plain and simple....

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I would ask you if your mentally handicapped, but I already know the answer to that question.....Mordru was not only one shotted by Darkseid, he was [b]afraid of him after realizing who he was. For someone whose bold enough to call someone out on their comic knowledge, you sure do act as if you don't know what the hell your talking about yourself. Stop grasping at straws and quit your pathetic low balling. The reason people accuse of trolling is because they honestly feel that there's no way in hell someone can be so unintelligent. It's almost as if your pretending to be that way, just so you can spread chaos.

facepalm You've been warned and banned for this low balling before. Just keep it up though, I really want to see you perma-banned.

Like I said keep it up.🙂 You'll either receive a warning from the mods or even worst.

Orly? Have you ever heard of narrative hyperbole? Fyi the fight took place on a planetoid, that oddly enough was still intact during their fight.......

😐.....when did I say he wasn't trying to kill him? That wasn't my initial argument. Thanks for trying, but you may want to work on your reading skills before posting.👆

Stop lying, Galactus faced dp Tyrant with tech and prep....the isn't me Quan, it's your poor reading comprehension skills.....and the Thanos showing against Galactus is nothing to get excited about. He was curbstomped, plain and simple.... [/B]

Yes, once he realized who he was he realized what he was capable of. He would have had a better defense had he been aware of who he was facing until it was too late.

Your personal attacks wouldn't frighten or intimidate a ten year old. The first sign of losing a debate is a personal attack. Either you emotionally invest yourself in this too much or you simply want to gloss over the facts and turn this into a flame thread in which you can hope to win.

I am simply making a logical statement. If you think Ds from those stories is more powerful than gds you're not bright. Gds Seid is one of the most powerful showings he's ever had. Period and saying he's less powerful than in the stories I just named off is a leap in logic.

I responded to your attack. You always played the victim when it's you who started it. This site doesn't need people who abuse the report button and anyone who reads on can easily see you attack me over and over again. You're no moderator so don't act like you are one.

And? The power was affecting multiple dimensions/ time space/ mulitverse. It isn't hyperbole when they go to those lengths. When Ds was attacking the Source the planet was intact yet they were affecting other dimensions. This isn't rocket science they are actually explaining to use what is happening and you still want to ignore it. 🙄

Glad you agree he was which shows off how durable Thanos is withstanding Odin's attempts at murder most foul.

Tyrant didn't have prep. Galactus knew when he was coming to battle him so he snacked on a planet which weakened Tyrant beforehand. I read the story you didn't. You are fun to argue with.

It's like saying me here in two months with both sides knowing they will fight and saying I had one sided prep. Wow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When does he state that it's outside tech that isn't usually at Thanos' request? When? More like wishful thinking on your part because he implies no such thing.
I don't care about your own garbage ridden interpretation. What matters is that Galactus SPECIFICALLY pointed out that it was tech. Prove that Thanos can use this as standard equipment.

He doesn't need to fly he can levitate and teleport. His reflexes are very fast. Examples such as him avoiding the Surfer's bltiz in ig and him reacting to the Fallen One's attack.
And my point stands. Flight is far superior to the likes of levitation. Do you know what that means my delusional friend? Without the aid of his chair, Thanos is not only incapable of space travel, he's limited to ground base attacks. So what if he can keep up with SS(someone whose not portrayed as smart fighter anyways). My primary point is that he doesn't possess these abilities. Limited powerset=more difficult chance of facing adversaries that actually use the speed and strength efficiently. Does that sink in?

I guess turning a skrull into a stone means nothing to you. His strength far exceeds Superman's whose strength is equal to Captain Marvel's. Here''s the thing star, Thanos can take on a power gem wielding Thor and hold his own. He can overpower the Hulk and the thing simultaneously while Superman can doubt his strength against Subjekt 17. He can destroy the Silver Surfer in a few blows. You see he is well above a top tier. Superman isn't.
I've heard alternate interpretations on the Skrull feat. Some feel that he actually did something that caused him to revert to it's stone form. Do post the scan if you feel differently. And Thanos didn't use many punches against Pg Thor.....SS isn't known for his physical feats as well.....and please stop low balling character's, we've seen enough lifting and punching feats from Clark, to properly gauge his strength. Low showings are your only resort to dragging out a topic, find another way to prove your point.

Word for word exactly what I stated. 😂

Everything I state is rooted in common sense and backed by the comics while everything you say isn't.

I have to hand it to you Quan, you actually backed up one of your claims.👆 To bad it doesn't help your case, let alone contributes anything relevant to the thread. Lets not forget the fact that you can't prove that the tech Thanos used is standard equipment. Make all the assumptions you want, but entire argument consist of assumptions, misconceptions, and low balling.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I don't care about your own garbage ridden interpretation. What matters is that Galactus [b]SPECIFICALLY pointed out that it was tech. Prove that Thanos can use this as standard equipment.

And my point stands. Flight is far superior to the likes of levitation. Do you know what that means my delusional friend? Without the aid of his chair, Thanos is not only incapable of space travel, he's limited to ground base attacks. So what if he can keep up with SS(someone whose not portrayed as smart fighter anyways). My primary point is that he doesn't possess these abilities. Limited powerset=more difficult chance of facing adversaries that actually use the speed and strength efficiently. Does that sink in?

I've heard alternate interpretations on the Skrull feat. Some feel that he actually did something that caused him to revert to it's stone form. Do post the scan if you feel differently. And Thanos didn't use many punches against Pg Thor.....SS isn't known for his physical feats as well.....and please stop low balling character's, we've seen enough lifting and punching feats from Clark, to properly gauge his strength. Low showings are your only resort to dragging out a topic, find another way to prove your point.

I have to hand it to you Quan, you actually backed up one of your claims.👆 To bad it doesn't help your case, let alone contributes anything relevant to the thread. Lets not forget the fact that you can't prove that the tech Thanos used is standard equipment. Make all the assumptions you want, but entire argument consist of assumptions, misconceptions, and low balling. [/B]

It was through tech. So him stating it means what? It's obvious he uses tech for his shields. 😂 I don't have to prove anything. Your claim so the burden is on you.

I could put up scans in which he he fights in space without the use of his chair but what would be the point. You still are clueless about Thanos. Thanos has beaten the stuffing out of fliers before so who cares if he can't fly. Neither can DD and he still took it to Superman who can fly. DD is also an idiot who can't think yet despite these obstacles he's one of Superman's more fearsome rogues. This is fun debating you.

Thanos can negate speed which he has. Has been quick enough to react to a lightning dart by the Surfer who he wasn't even facing when in these versus threads he knows who he is facing and they aren't perched miles away in some remote location waiting to pounce.

Thanos has shields powerful enough to tax Galactus which means they hold to or can hold up to pretty powerful stuff if he is bringing his best shields.

Thanos is smarter enough, versatile enough, and powerful enough to take on powerhouses like Tyrant and Odin. Hell, after his latest upgrade he got even more powerful than Odin imo.

I know there are some weirdo stances on things and big shocker you feel he didn't do so. I see you saw the herochat thread and are lurking over there as well. LOL.

Really? What was Thanos doing to Thor then most of the time? He only managed to get a bloody nose after taking a lot of Thor hits.

What? Are you serious? Surfer is very strong and for you to suggest he isn't further shows your ignorance. He isn't the strongest guy out there but a physical powerhouse you can count him. He's durable as shit and Thanos punked him with a few blows and laughed off blasts like they were warm summer breezes.

Superman's still a top tier. No lowballing he just is an equal of cap. That's an accurate statement.

I don't have to prove your statement. It's your claim and you have to back it up. We don't just assume everything Thanos does is through special tech he doesn't have with him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, once he realized who he was he realized what he was capable of. He would have had a better defense had he been aware of who he was facing until it was too late.
Quit grasping at straws, Mordru was one shotted. I repeat ONE SHOTTED. You can look at it from any angle you want to, downplay it as much as you want, but the feat stands as it is.

Your personal attacks wouldn't frighten or intimidate a ten year old. The first sign of losing a debate is a personal attack. Either you emotionally invest yourself in this too much or you simply want to gloss over the facts and turn this into a flame thread in which you can hope to win.
Personal attacks? Weren't you the first to put me down? What does telling me "I'm still the same" mean to you? It was obviously a snide and petty remark to incite me. When have I been banned for my behavior? Cause you sure as hell have been multiple times. Unlike you, I'm smart enough to stay out of trouble and I know how to restrain myself. Maybe you should take note. And don't act like your innocent. You only conceal your true nature because you know you wouldn't last as long as you have, if you didn't flame. I've seen insult others on several occasions. Stop being a hypocrite.

I am simply making a logical statement. If you think Ds from those stories is more powerful than gds you're not bright. Gds Seid is one of the most powerful showings he's ever had. Period and saying he's less powerful than in the stories I just named off is a leap in logic.
The true Darkseid was revealed in Final Crisis....and he dragged down the multiverse under his own power.....you've been told by mods not to use those stories as examples before......all your doing is breaking forum rules.

I responded to your attack. You always played the victim when it's you who started it. This site doesn't need people who abuse the report button and anyone who reads on can easily see you attack me over and over again. You're no moderator so don't act like you are one.
I haven't attacked you, I only called you out on your bs....like pretty much everyone else does.......Does it not bother you that you've gotten in trouble for the same arguments your using now?

And? The power was affecting multiple dimensions/ time space/ mulitverse. It isn't hyperbole when they go to those lengths. When Ds was attacking the Source the planet was intact yet they were affecting other dimensions. This isn't rocket science they are actually explaining to use what is happening and you still want to ignore it. 🙄
And the feat wasn't illustrated.....not only that but the narrators on words don't reflect what's happening on panel.....it's called narrative hyperbole go look it up. dur Obviously a multiversal/galaxy destroying fight would keep the landscape that Seth and Odin fought on intact aye Quan?(sarcasm) Like you said it's rocket science. 🙂

Glad you agree he was which shows off how durable Thanos is withstanding Odin's attempts at murder most foul.
And I'm glad you were trying to take the cheap route in this debate, by putting words in my mouth.😬

Tyrant didn't have prep. Galactus knew when he was coming to battle him so he snacked on a planet which weakened Tyrant beforehand. I read the story you didn't. You are fun to argue with.
It's like saying me here in two months with both sides knowing t
hey will fight and saying I had one sided prep. Wow.
facepalm Do you want me to find the damn scan myself and post it? Your not even being dense any more, your just playing dumb....

what are these pansies gonna do to darkseid???

maybe if they polish his boots and exchange a few *ahem*.......favors......he'll spare their worthless lives.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Quit grasping at straws, Mordru was [b]one shotted. I repeat ONE SHOTTED. You can look at it from any angle you want to, downplay it as much as you want, but the feat stands as it is.

Personal attacks? Weren't you the first to put me down? What does telling me "I'm still the same" mean to you? It was obviously a snide and petty remark to incite me. When have I been banned for my behavior? Cause you sure as hell have been multiple times. Unlike you, I'm smart enough to stay out of trouble and I know how to restrain myself. Maybe you should take note. And don't act like your innocent. You only conceal your true nature because you know you wouldn't last as long as you have, if you didn't flame. I've seen insult others on several occasions. Stop being a hypocrite.

The true Darkseid was revealed in Final Crisis....and he dragged down the multiverse under his own power.....you've been told by mods not to use those stories as examples before......all your doing is breaking forum rules.

I haven't attacked you, I only called you out on your bs....like pretty much everyone else does.......Does it not bother you that you've gotten in trouble for the same arguments your using now?

And the feat wasn't illustrated.....not only that but the narrators on words don't reflect what's happening on panel.....it's called narrative hyperbole go look it up. dur Obviously a multiversal/galaxy destroying fight would keep the landscape that Seth and Odin fought on intact aye Quan?(sarcasm) Like you said it's rocket science. 🙂

And I'm glad you were trying to take the cheap route in this debate, by putting words in my mouth.😬

facepalm Do you want me to find the damn scan myself and post it? Your not even being dense any more, your just playing dumb.... [/B]

He had his powers stolen. He wasn't prepared for so. Context.

I have over 40,000 posts on this site. You disappeared for over a year. I didn't. Quite a few of the regular posters outside of former mods and mods have at least a ban or two that have high post count.

You aren't a mod so don't act like it. Fc was vague and was also achieved through the ale in the first place. That Ds wasn't seen in combat so I argue based on his classic showings which support my claims. Even his best feats post crisis don't come anywhere close to gds. LOL.

My arguments are sound as ever. It doesn't bother me at all. 😉

I guess the Source and an amped Darkseid were only powerful enough to affect ten square miles of land and weren't using power like a surfer planet destroying blast. This is hilarious but I will play along. The logic you use is so funny I can actually use your same logic against Seid and the Source.

Odin's powerful enough to oneshot the Surfer yet he didn't even ko Thanos after a long extended fight. Awesome feat.

You didn't read the story. Tyrant and Galactus both knew about their battle. Galactus fed to prepare himself while this action weakened Tyrant and he still was winning. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was through tech. So him stating it means what? It's obvious he uses tech for his shields. 😂 I don't have to prove anything. Your claim so the burden is on you.
And that's not the point. The question is rather the shields are standard equipment or not. If you can't prove that then you have nothing more say.

I could put up scans in which he he fights in space without the use of his chair but what would be the point. You still are clueless about Thanos. Thanos has beaten the stuffing out of fliers before so who cares if he can't fly. Neither can DD and he still took it to Superman who can fly. DD is also an idiot who can't think yet despite these obstacles he's one of Superman's more fearsome rogues. This is fun debating you.
Correction, Thanos beats fliers that are merely top tier/herald level or lower. None of those characters can dish out attacks powerful enough to effectively harm him and to make matters worse, they obviously don't take advantage of their speed abilities. The reason I brought that up is to prove Thanos's lack of versatility, compared to the likes of Darkseid and other skyfather levelers. That shit fly can against guys who are nothing special in terms of durability and strength. But when you pit Thanos against somebody with better, more defined strength feats, not to mention that they have him beaten in overall versatility, it's pushing it to claim that Thanos can beat them. He's powerful and should be respected, yes. But this mindless illogical wanking has to stop. You constantly defend him against character's with better showings and a larger range of powers. Know his limitations and stop giving him too much credit.

Thanos can negate speed which he has. Has been quick enough to react to a lightning dart by the Surfer who he wasn't even facing when in these versus threads he knows who he is facing and they aren't perched miles away in some remote location waiting to pounce.
He be able to do such, when he's facing guys who aren simply not up to par with him, but he isn't going to do jack shit when faces someone whose overall stronger, faster, and equally as durable. When has Thanos defeated someone as strong and fast as Superman?(I know he can take Clark for a majority) When has he fought someone as powerful andversatile as pc Darkseid? He's not versatile enough to beat Ds, and would be hard pressed to defeat Superman.(in h2h atleast)

Thanos has shields powerful enough to tax Galactus which means they hold to or can hold up to pretty powerful stuff if he is bringing his best shields.
That's awesome Quan! Too bad you can't prove that the shields are standard equipment.😬

Thanos is smarter enough, versatile enough, and powerful enough to take on powerhouses like Tyrant and Odin. Hell, after his latest upgrade he got even more powerful than Odin imo.
More powerful than Odin egh? This is based on what? This is kmc son, you need to back up your case with more than just speculation.

I know there are some weirdo stances on things and big shocker you feel he didn't do so. I see you saw the herochat thread and are lurking over there as well. LOL.
I found it to be an interesting analysis.

Really? What was Thanos doing to Thor then most of the time? He only managed to get a bloody nose after taking a lot of Thor hits.
You should know damn well that Thanos didn't exhibit enough physical feats to properly gauge him. All your left with is more speculation, which raises more questions than answer them. Nice try, but that feat is in no way a testament to his strength, only his durability.

What? Are you serious? Surfer is very strong and for you to suggest he isn't further shows your ignorance. He isn't the strongest guy out there but a physical powerhouse you can count him. He's durable as shit and Thanos punked him with a few blows and laughed off blasts like they were warm summer breezes.
Why do you like to put words in my mouth that never said? Here's a better question, why do you insist on using the word ignorant? The god hones truth is that you shouldn't even be able to use such a word.....my point regarding SS is that he pales in comparison to guys like Superman physically. This is moot point to the thread anyways....

Superman's still a top tier. No lowballing he just is an equal of cap. That's an accurate statement.
Originally posted by quanchi112 I guess turning a skrull into a stone means nothing to you. His strength far exceeds Superman's whose strength is equal to Captain Marvel's. Here''s the thing star, Thanos can take on a power gem wielding Thor and hold his own. He can overpower the Hulk and the thing simultaneously while Superman can doubt his strength against Subjekt 17. He can destroy the Silver Surfer in a few blows. You see he is well above a top tier. Superman isn't.
Your words Quan.😉

I don't have to prove your statement. It's your claim and you have to back it up. We don't just assume everything Thanos does is through special tech he doesn't have with him.
I never said that all his powers are derived from tech. My point is that the shields that he used don't seem like they would qualify as standard equipment. Either prove me wrong or quit evading my theory.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He had his powers stolen. He wasn't prepared for so. Context.
Just Gtfo, you have nothing else to say but repeat yourself.
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I have over 40,000 posts on this site. You disappeared for over a year. I didn't. Quite a few of the regular posters outside of former mods and mods have at least a ban or two that have high post count.
😆 40,000 post of crap and ignorance. It amazes me how you feed your ego with something so trivial and petty.👇

You aren't a mod so don't act like it. Fc was vague and was also achieved through the ale in the first place. That Ds wasn't seen in combat so I argue based on his classic showings which support my claims. Even his best feats post crisis don't come anywhere close to gds. LOL.
Ale=mind control and nothing more. Grant Morrisons words. Lets not forget that the omega sanction can create synthetic realities......So you need combat feats to no how powerful a guy that can pull the multiverse down with him when dying? If don't have that much common sense, then your worse than just being naive.....

My arguments are sound as ever. It doesn't bother me at all. 😉
That's why everyone respects you, right Quan? dur

I guess the Source and an amped Darkseid were only powerful enough to affect ten square miles of land and weren't using power like a surfer planet destroying blast. This is hilarious but I will play along. The logic you use is so funny I can actually use your same logic against Seid and the Source.
You still fail to understand the concept of NARRATIVE HYPERBOLE! Typical....We already know the Source is an all powerful universal level power source.....outside of that feat, when has Odin destroyed a galaxy on panel?

Odin's powerful enough to oneshot the Surfer yet he didn't even ko Thanos after a long extended fight. Awesome feat.
A fight that had gone on any longer, Thanos would of died......these feats don't put him on Gds/Fc/Pc Darkseid's level......

You didn't read the story. Tyrant and Galactus both knew about their battle. Galactus fed to prepare himself while this action weakened Tyrant and he still was winning. 😂
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All he did was manipulate his tech and briefly knocked over Galactus.....if you honestly think he had a snow ball chance in hell at killing Galan, then your just as delusional as Tyrant.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And that's not the point. The question is rather the shields are standard equipment or not. If you can't prove that then you have nothing more say.

Correction, Thanos beats fliers that are merely top tier/herald level or lower. None of those characters can dish out attacks powerful enough to effectively harm him and to make matters worse, they obviously don't take advantage of their speed abilities. The reason I brought that up is to prove Thanos's lack of versatility, compared to the likes of Darkseid and other skyfather levelers. That shit fly can against guys who are nothing special in terms of durability and strength. But when you pit Thanos against somebody with better, more defined strength feats, not to mention that they have him beaten in overall versatility, it's pushing it to claim that Thanos can beat them. He's powerful and should be respected, yes. But this mindless illogical wanking has to stop. You constantly defend him against character's with better showings and a larger range of powers. Know his limitations and stop giving him too much credit.

He be able to do such, when he's facing guys who aren simply not up to par with him, but he isn't going to do jack shit when faces someone whose overall stronger, faster, and equally as durable. When has Thanos defeated someone as strong and fast as Superman?(I know he can take Clark for a majority) When has he fought someone as powerful andversatile as pc Darkseid? He's not versatile enough to beat Ds, and would be hard pressed to defeat Superman.(in h2h atleast)

That's awesome Quan! Too bad you can't prove that the shields are standard equipment.😬

More powerful than Odin egh? This is based on what? This is kmc son, you need to back up your case with more than just speculation.

I found it to be an interesting analysis.

You should know damn well that Thanos didn't exhibit enough physical feats to properly gauge him. All your left with is more speculation, which raises more questions than answer them. Nice try, but that feat is in no way a testament to his strength, only his durability.

Why do you like to put words in my mouth that never said? Here's a better question, why do you insist on using the word ignorant? The god hones truth is that you shouldn't even be able to use such a word.....my point regarding SS is that he pales in comparison to guys like Superman physically. This is moot point to the thread anyways....

Your words Quan.😉

I never said that all his powers are derived from tech. My point is that the shields that he used don't seem like they would qualify as standard equipment. Either prove me wrong or quit evading my theory. Just Gtfo, you have nothing else to say but repeat yourself.
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😆 40,000 post of crap and ignorance. It amazes me how you feed your ego with something so trivial and petty.👇

Ale=mind control and nothing more. Grant Morrisons words. Lets not forget that the omega sanction can create synthetic realities......So you need combat feats to no how powerful a guy that can pull the multiverse down with him when dying? If don't have that much common sense, then your worse than just being naive.....

That's why everyone respects you, right Quan? dur

You still fail to understand the concept of NARRATIVE HYPERBOLE! Typical....We already know the Source is an all powerful universal level power source.....outside of that feat, when has Odin destroyed a galaxy on panel?

A fight that had gone on any longer, Thanos would of died......these feats don't put him on Gds/Fc/Pc Darkseid's level......

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All he did was manipulate his tech and briefly knocked over Galactus.....if you honestly think he had a snow ball chance in hell at killing Galan, then your just as delusional as Tyrant.

It's your point so it's up to you to prove they are not. It's a nver tactic asking me to prove your negative. Horrible debating.

Surfer can wreck a planet and is very powerful yet he can't even phase Thanos. That's a testament to Thanos not a knock on the Surfer. Thanos hangs with guys like Odin and Tyrant who can play around with top tiers like they are common street trash.

How is the Hulk not special in terms of strength? That's his whole thing? How is Thor not special in terms of strength? How is the Surfer not impressive in terms of durability? I have no idea what planet you are on at this point?

Superman was actively trying to keep his distance from DD who threw a bone fragment at him despite this he couldn't avoid it. You wanted to act like Thanos can't beat a flyer when a mindless brick was doing so even though Superman set out to keep his distance.

You haven't proven these characters are stronger. You say they are. That's all I get from you. Hell, what have you proven that Superman can give Thanos a run for his money despite him stalemating a merciless power gem wielding Thor when Superman could barely stand after putting down a regular Thor. I mean come on man.

How aren't they? It's like you saying they aren't when he simply activated them in multiple stories when he has needed them. We have also seen him erect a shield against Drax in annihilation. How many examples do you need before you say ok it's one of his standard powers? 20?

Yes, Superman doubted his strength against someone who hasn't proven it like the characters I named.

Galactus blast. Maker owning. I have been on kmc for a much longer period than you are. You are just someone who lurks and posts every so often.

What? If you ignore Thanos' history and examples sure he hasn't shown himself to be well above top tier in strength but lucky me I comprehend what I read.

Keep lurking. Of course you would it's another radical theory to take something away from Thanos. You prolly got excited when you heard it.

Context doesn't change. Run all you want it's still there waiting for you.

2,000 forgetful posts from a wannabe poster. 🙂

The scans have been put up. Like usual you ignore it and try to go on with your agenda.

The links don't work noob. 😂 Over two years and you don't know how to properly post a scan. Shocking.

Tyrant was getting more powerful and Galactus was on his ass bleeding. If you think that means Galactus win then you really shouldn't be trusted with a comic book in your hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's your point so it's up to you to prove they are not. It's a nver tactic asking me to prove your negative. Horrible debating.
A Nver tactic as in the guy who whooped your candy ass in a battlezone? The problem here is that you have a retarded definition of negative. It's nonsensical to throw around a feat and not have balls to back up claim when somebody raises a point. You've shown me that balls are as big as your brain(if you have either).....what the the hell do you want me to prove, that the shield is standard equipment? Your the one always trying to throw that showing around against Galactus. I guess since there's no proof of it being standard equipment, we can throw it out the window.

Surfer can wreck a planet and is very powerful yet he can't even phase Thanos. That's a testament to Thanos not a knock on the Surfer. Thanos hangs with guys like Odin and Tyrant who can play around with top tiers like they are common street trash.
Can you prove to me that Surfers as strong as Superman, because that's my primary point........of course you'll probably give me another chicken shit response about me trying to get me to "prove my own negative". And sadly the only thing you've proven is that your parakeet that can offer anything productive to a debate.

How is the Hulk not special in terms of strength? That's his whole thing? How is Thor not special in terms of strength? How is the Surfer not impressive in terms of durability? I have no idea what planet you are on at this point?
Can you please stop putting words in my mouth. All I said is that none of those guys are as strong as Superman.

Superman was actively trying to keep his distance from DD who threw a bone fragment at him despite this he couldn't avoid it. You wanted to act like Thanos can't beat a flyer when a mindless brick was doing so even though Superman set out to keep his distance.
Doomsday has super speed..........it doesn't matter who Thanos faced anyways, my point is that he doesn't have superhuman speed and he can't beat a guy like Superman, due to a combination of combat speed, strength, and durability.

You haven't proven these characters are stronger. You say they are. That's all I get from you. Hell, what have you proven that Superman can give Thanos a run for his money despite him stalemating a merciless power gem wielding Thor when Superman could barely stand after putting down a regular Thor. I mean come on man.
It can't put it in words on how asinine you are. You already know of Superman's various lifting and punching feats. He was causing an entire planet to crumble with the impact of the blows he delivered during his slugfest with Zod. He's tossed a moon sized object, and can push planets. You still fail to grasp the concept of Thanos not exerting physical strength on Thor, atleast not enough to put him in Clark's class range.

How aren't they? It's like you saying they aren't when he simply activated them in multiple stories when he has needed them. We have also seen him erect a shield against Drax in annihilation. How many examples do you need before you say ok it's one of his standard powers? 20?
See how hard was it to actually try to acknowledge my question? It's alot easier than to be a hypocritical coward and evade the subject. Just because he can erect a force field, doesn't mean it has the same level of power as tech amped shield that he used against Galactus.......I'm assuming that a basic energy shield should be with in Thanos's powerset....but that's not the question. The question is whether he uses the tech based shield as standard equipment.

Yes, Superman doubted his strength against someone who hasn't proven it like the characters I named.
Exactly, that's what we adults(not you apparently) call low balling.

Galactus blast. Maker owning. I have been on kmc for a much longer period than you are. You are just someone who lurks and posts every so often.
Your so childish.....I mean like a sweaty fat middle aged slob that lives in his mother's basement and likes to be read bed time stories, childish. Do you really think your hot shit? NO ONE TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY! I don't know what's more ironically hilarious, the fact that you think your logical and credible or the fact that you think your track record on teh internetz is something to brag about......I've already shot you down on those points on the Maker and Galactus, both past and present, so I'm not even going to go into detail about those statements......

What? If you ignore Thanos' history and examples sure he hasn't shown himself to be well above top tier in strength but lucky me I comprehend what I read.
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Btw I never said Thanos isn't above top tier strength, just that he isn't on par Superman.

Keep lurking. Of course you would it's another radical theory to take something away from Thanos. You prolly got excited when you heard it.
The problem isn't isn't me demeaning Thanos, it's you overrating him......

Context doesn't change. Run all you want it's still there waiting for you.
Too bad the "context" as you put it doesn't help your case in any shape or form.

2,000 forgetful posts from a wannabe poster.
🙂 Another petty moot point. For someone that pretends to be as sensitive as the tip of my wang, you sure do like to attack my posting history.

The scans have been put up. Like usual you ignore it and try to go on with your agenda.
Hate to break it to you QuanchiIQ2, but your scans don't support your stance at all.....

The links don't work noob. 😂 Over two years and you don't know how to properly post a scan. Shocking.
Orly? Then what was that Galactus scan that I had posted a while back? I guess I got your mother to post it. Is that the kind of response you want from me, cause you sure do seem to be intent on pulling me into a childish pissing contest.😬

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Is that better Quantard?

Tyrant was getting more powerful and Galactus was on his ass bleeding. If you think that means Galactus win then you really shouldn't be trusted with a comic book in your hand.
So you think that Tyrant actually stood a chance against Galactus, when at full power he was beaten fair and square? If you believe that Tyrant could possibly beaten him in a prolonged match up then your.....well....I would say dumber than I thought, but you are Quanchi, so else am I supposed to expect......

I honestly don't know why me and others even bother with you any more. You'll never change and the best thing to do is to let you get yourself banned, hopefully permanently.

Classic DS could make his beams travel through both time and space, making them appear only inside a victim before the fight even started.