Pre Crisis Darkseid Vs Thanos and Odin

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All i remember is Superman saying he's lightning fast he also referenced his speed being lightning fast in HP.

Originally posted by iceman24567
What the hell does Tyrant have to do with anything? He's above Thanos and not on pc Darkseid or Odin level.
Read the posts and follow along. :/

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
So is the shield standard equipment or not? You still haven't shown me that Thanos can whip this ability out in any situation. Why didn't he use it against Odin, why didn't he use it against Tyrant, and did he not use such a powerful shield(which from the looks on panel, was easily destroyed by Galactus) against these opponents? It doesn't even matter anyways, this whole entire feat in no way puts Thanos on either Odin or pc Darkseid's level..........your just extrapolating it to give Thanos more credit he deserves. I don't even know why I am still trying to convince you this feat is debunked.......

Translation: I don't know the basic concepts of debating and I'm to much of a coward to pull myself out of the corner I've been backed into.

Ok so now according to you Grey Hulk>Hulk>Superman? You do realize that Grey Hulk is only around Thing and Namor level right.......So I guess that means Grey Hulk>/=Thing/Namor>Hulk>Superman

Any high herald/top tier could probably beat those two......hell it wouldn't suprise me if Wonder Woman could.😬

I figured there was context missing from the scan, but I posted it anyways to see if you would tell the issue number yourself.....you didn't.....so that means you either don't own the comic, came to the conclusion based off of someone Else's assessment, or perhaps didn't read the comic yourself....so in other words you're a hypocrite.🙂

Only you would use the Subjeckt 17 instance to demean Superman, even though you probably don't know the full extent of his strength.facepalm And Lulz at you still leaning on The Hulk and The Thing feat.😆

All those are feats that Superman can easily replicate.......

I still don't know wtf your going off about.doh Both Superman and Booster Gold commented on a less evolved DD's speed......your trying to force your own idiotic words down my throat. My argument had nothing to do with him tagging speedsters, [b]it was the character's comments on DD. Please, do yourself a favor and go get yourself a 1rst grade education.......

So I guess someone that was hired by Marvel to write several Avengers stories, doesn't know anything about Thor aye Quan? I guess in order to do Thor Justice is to have him winz 10/10!!!!!!!!!! Amirite? Your sad excuses don't mean jackshit, Thor lost to Supes in a canon source, live with it. 😆 If you can accept Grey Hulk's asteroid feat, then you can accept Jl/Avengers.

Yeah he used his intelligence, in the form of a fire arm.dur Thor wasn't going down to Thanos, because he would of beaten him, plain and simple. So I guess using a weapon that's not standard equipment or part of his powerset is now valid on Kmc?

Yet you weren't able to show me the scan and issue number yourself, despite having plenty of time to do so.🙄 Admit it, you exposed yourself.....Like I said Quan, I set that trap up especially for you, just for the Lulz......Lulz!

Yes it does and it's name is spelled Q-u-a-n-c-h-i........you still fail to understand that SS can exploit Supes weakness, which is why he gets a slight majority(6/10), against him. Can Thanos exploit Superman's kryptonite and solar energy faults? I bet your ass he can't.🙂

Stopped reading......

Lulz, plot device explosion.....I guess your just going to dismiss his durability feats, just because you're to simple minded to comprehend them........seeing how you used plot device in the wrong context, I bet you don't even know the definition of the word.dur The rest of your post is just typical ignorant ass lowballing, that wouldn't even qualify as low showings, according to a normal intelligent persons perspective........

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Ok, I'll explain to you why he didn't use a shield of this magnitude against Odin. It's common sense but you need a teacher and I am just what the guidance counselor ordered.

Thanos used the shield against Galactus and shields against Omega because they had the power to kill him. Thanos disputed Odin's power superiority and showed he could definitely take on Odin. He was challenging Tyrant and when it was proven Tyrant was more powerful he took the bauble and left. Thanos isn't stupid enough to just let someone kill him, but he knew someone like Galactus and Omega need shields to protect him. It's common sense it's like saying why didn't Superman use superspeed when insert threat beat him down. Just because Thanos doesn't erect shields in each and every appearance that doesn't mean it's outside the scope of his abilities, noob.

I am not in a corner you just don't know how to debate. I'd say you forgot, but you were just as bad then as you are now. LOL.

I never stated that. My point was Hulk's feats are off the charts. I never said strength feats prove anything anyways. We already know the Hulk is strong and we have seen Thanos easily overpower him. Thanos doesn't need to lift the earth to show he's strong. Get it? I hope so.

Beat is different than overpower. WW couldn't easily overpower them she'd have to rely on her skill. She couldn't overpower the Hulk let alone the Hulk and the thing simultaneously. It's like your brain can't pick up on the simplest of points.

I explained I lost most of my comics and didn't post it. You posted the scan yet you still don't know what issue number it's from. I knew you took the context of out the feat. The point is you got called on it and whether I read it today, yesterday, 12 years ago I still knew the context behind it while you didn't. LOL.

The point is Superman isn't the strongest guy out there. He finds ways to win he doesn't just overpower everyone. The Hulk is the strongest one there is. He always has been. It's his thing not Superman's. Overpowering the Hulk and the Thing is awesome. He did it effortlessly while I gave you one example of Superman doubting his own strength against another being. Give me some feats then. Your arguments are just so easy to crush.

Iyo he could easily replicate them while we have him match up perfectly against Marvel. You just make one random statement to the next. That's why I love dc fanboys. You don't back up statements with logic it's just a system of bias when it comes to dc characters with nothing to support it. LOL.

We have seen Gladiator fly at 100 times the speed of light before and seen Thor tag him outside that arc. I guess every appearance of Gladiator he uses his speed just like DD. This is sorta fun. Starking logic ftl.

Yes, but his opinion of Thor is much lower than most other writers. Jurgens for one agrees Thor wins. If we go much higher end like Simonson it's more or less a stomp. Thor was also ko'd by Airwalker so I can live with Thor acting out of character and freezing like a deer in headlights when he saw the same exact feat 25 years prior. Supes barely won under these circumstances so all in all I'd say it's safe to say Thor wins a majority against the man of steel.

I never said I couldn't accept it. This is another example of you not understanding me. I mean when do I say I can't accept it? LOL.

I said I couldn't remember and the point was you were called on your bullshit. Wow.

Thanos doesn't need to exploit his weakness. What don't you get he's a lot more powerful/stronger/more durable than Superman is. Surfer doesn't need to do so either imo to beat the man of steel. If you take Surfer at his best vs. Superman at his best he doesn't need to exploit him to beat him.

Of course you don't respond to a weaker character batting Superman around like a dummy it ruins your weak, biased case.

Those types of explosions don't necessarily bring home his durability. That's the point when one moment he tanks a huge nuclear explosion and gets his jaw shattered by one punch you take the whole average. We have seen other characters on Superman's level cause him to bleed and easily. Look at WW's tiara and what it did to his throat yet a bomb doesn't make him blink. Common sense, hello!!!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, I'll explain to you why he didn't use a shield of this magnitude against Odin. It's common sense but you need a teacher and I am just what the guidance counselor ordered.
I didn't know someone with a special education, could qualify as a teacher. I learned something today and you taught me. clapping

Thanos used the shield against Galactus and shields against Omega because they had the power to kill him. Thanos disputed Odin's power superiority and showed he could definitely take on Odin. He was challenging Tyrant and when it was proven Tyrant was more powerful he took the bauble and left. Thanos isn't stupid enough to just let someone kill him, but he knew someone like Galactus and Omega need shields to protect him. It's common sense it's like saying why didn't Superman use superspeed when insert threat beat him down. Just because Thanos doesn't erect shields in each and every appearance that doesn't mean it's outside the scope of his abilities, noob.
So your trying to convince me that Thanos had a shot at beating Odin? That's why Odin was dominating him right? I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that shit Jack. It's not even with in Thanos's character to use the shield anyways in a match up like this and even if it was, you still have to prove it was standard equipment......which your not going to do, seeing how you're going in circular motion. Hell, even if you could prove to me that it's standard equipment, it's not going to do shit for him but cover his ass........Thanos can't hurt Pc Darkseid anyways.........your reaching has gotten nowhere. And your Superman analogy is a sad excuse for an example......Supes has blitzed and used speed enough to make it a part of his standard powerset and unlike Thanos, there's plenty of proof to suggest it's not outside of his own god given abilities.

I am not in a corner you just don't know how to debate. I'd say you forgot, but you were just as bad then as you are now. LOL.
Ok fine, your not in a corner. Going by your posting quality I'd say your looked up in a psychiatric clinic and some how gained access to a computer........I let you show yourself up Quany, next time I issue you a challenge, maybe you should consider backing up your claims....

I never stated that. My point was Hulk's feats are off the charts. I never said strength feats prove anything anyways. We already know the Hulk is strong and we have seen Thanos easily overpower him. Thanos doesn't need to lift the earth to show he's strong. Get it? I hope so.
That's all fine and dandy, unfortunetly Hulk doesn't have as good of a track record as Superman......

Beat is different than overpower. WW couldn't easily overpower them she'd have to rely on her skill. She couldn't overpower the Hulk let alone the Hulk and the thing simultaneously. It's like your brain can't pick up on the simplest of points.
:Laugh: The Thing would be damn near be a non factor in a match up like.......The Thing isn't even a top tier.facepalm I beat you think Hulk and Thing could take Superman for a majority as well.........

I explained I lost most of my comics and didn't post it. You posted the scan yet you still don't know what issue number it's from. I knew you took the context of out the feat. The point is you got called on it and whether I read it today, yesterday, 12 years ago I still knew the context behind it while you didn't. LOL.
You fell in trap son, just get over it. Like I'm supposed to believe you found out the context behind that story by yourself......Lawls!!!! I read the story while back and recalled something not being quite right about the feat......

And the issue # is 215 I believe.

The point is Superman isn't the strongest guy out there. He finds ways to win he doesn't just overpower everyone. The Hulk is the strongest one there is. He always has been. It's his thing not Superman's. Overpowering the Hulk and the Thing is awesome. He did it effortlessly while I gave you one example of Superman doubting his own strength against another being. Give me some feats then. Your arguments are just so easy to crush.
Yeah he doesn't overpowers character's that are written to be physical equals to Superman. This is completely irrational and mind numbingly stupid on your behalf. It's like trying to demean a fighter that stalemates an opponent with stats that are equal to his own. If anything Quan it means that those characters are stronger than Thanos as well, because they actual faced a top tier with consistent high level strength feats. Why do you still use the same worn out arguments that Mods have banned for? Your opinion is one that is shared with a small, mostly ignored minority. Your lowballing of Superman is down right sickening. It's obvious that you hold a grudgeful bias towards the character........I also forgot to mention to you how Thanos doubted his strength against Hulk........I wonder what lame ass excuse you have for that one.😗

Iyo he could easily replicate them while we have him match up perfectly against Marvel. You just make one random statement to the next. That's why I love dc fanboys. You don't back up statements with logic it's just a system of bias when it comes to dc characters with nothing to support it. LOL.
I guess that means strength wise Superman=Captain Marvel>Thanos then.🙂 Since your more intent on using that as a black mark against Supes and you have no conclusive proof, that can be the new consensus.🙂 You can't get it through your dense child like mind that Captain Marvel's high end showings is being Superman's peer.....

We have seen Gladiator fly at 100 times the speed of light before and seen Thor tag him outside that arc. I guess every appearance of Gladiator he uses his speed just like DD. This is sorta fun. Starking logic ftl.
So now your negating the fact that DD has superspeed, by making a piss poor strawman analogy? All I was trying to tell you is that DD does have superspeed. Do I have type it a little slower for you to understand? DD....as in Doomsday..............was in the biggest selling.......Superman story.......of all time.......it was called......Death of Superman.........Booster Gold and Superman comment on Doomsday's speed............Both character's are speedsters.............Doomsday from that story possessed........superspeed.......Doomsday was less evolved at that point of time.........Hp Doomsday is a more evolved incarnation........that means........he has......the same abilities......

Yes, but his opinion of Thor is much lower than most other writers. Jurgens for one agrees Thor wins. If we go much higher end like Simonson it's more or less a stomp. Thor was also ko'd by Airwalker so I can live with Thor acting out of character and freezing like a deer in headlights when he saw the same exact feat 25 years prior. Supes barely won under these circumstances so all in all I'd say it's safe to say Thor wins a majority against the man of steel.
In some writers(forgot his name) opinion, Superman could defeat a well fed Galactus.......see how relevant a writer's opinion on a story he didn't write is? Quit your b1tching, Thor lost fair and square.😉

I never said I couldn't accept it. This is another example of you not understanding me. I mean when do I say I can't accept it? LOL.
Seeing how your so delusional, bias, and hypocritical that you think that the majority of the forum is wrong and that your right, I think it's fair to say that I'm not the only one who can't understand you.......theirs a word for people like you.........it's called pretentious.....aka a douche bag.🙂

Thanos doesn't need to exploit his weakness. What don't you get he's a lot more powerful/stronger/more durable than Superman is. Surfer doesn't need to do so either imo to beat the man of steel. If you take Surfer at his best vs. Superman at his best he doesn't need to exploit him to beat him.
Thanos can take him for a majority, but he's certainly not more durable or stronger than Clark. The best you can come up with is his showings against The Thing and Hulk.hysterical And it doesn't matter anyways, He never beat either in h2h........he only briefly humbled them.......and Thanos said he wouldn't want to face Hulk😐.........

And Surfers not blasting Clark to death, because that's his only other means to pulling off a win against him..........

Of course you don't respond to a weaker character batting Superman around like a dummy it ruins your weak, biased case.
Weaker as is in characters that are portrayed as physical peers? Strawman much?

Those types of explosions don't necessarily bring home his durability. That's the point when one moment he tanks a huge nuclear explosion and gets his jaw shattered by one punch you take the whole average. We have seen other characters on Superman's level cause him to bleed and easily. Look at WW's tiara and what it did to his throat yet a bomb doesn't make him blink. Common sense, hello!!! [/B]
Yes he gets his jaw shattered............BY SOMEONE WHOSE PORTRAYED AS A PHYSICAL PEER TO HIM. Only a idiot of the highest magnitude would classify that as a low showing.😬 I guess you won't me to remind of the instance where Thanos was cut by Wolverine........you keep up this lowballing and I'll report you.

Listen kid, seriously you aren't a debater. It's not in you, sport.

Odin was trying to kill him and failed to do so. The rest of the top tiers were oneshotted while Thanos went toe to toe and Odin ended up lip servicing him at the end of the day. Props to Thanos.

At his best he uses shields against uber threats but this is one case I agree with you. he doesn't need the shields against someone less powerful than Odin. I agree 100 percent. Against cosmic beings such as Galactus, Omega he brings his a game not against Seid who was beaten by Firestorm. 🙄

Your jokes fail.

How doesn't he? His strength feats are better by direct comparison to Superman's as I already pointed out. That's a much weaker Hulk to boot. If you have any strength feats you know of in arcs you read feel free to post them, but I know you can't.

Beating Superman for a majority is neither here nor there WW isn't strong enough to overpower the Hulk let alone the Thing simultaneously. Sorry, but you lose and you failed to derail the thread.

I called you on it and already posted their health was tie to the planet. I called you on it immediately. You admitted you were wrong and I am still laughing at you.

Again your rants just prove how worked up you are. Prove Superman is the strongest there is or shut up.

Thanos never doubted his strength against the Hulk, ever. Liar. You again don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Iyw maybe that's what it means not in mine. Thanos is well above top tier while Superman isn't. Plain and simple.

Whether he has superspeed or not it's irrelevant as he didn't use said speed in hp. That's the point, kid.

I have never heard that. The writer who wrote that arc barely had Thor lose and that's just his opinion meaning the fight could have gone either way. I can live with that. Supes wins 3-4 out of 10 against Thor.

Another rant.

He beat the Surfer to death in a few blows while Supes can't even beat Orion who is less durable than the Surfer. saying superman is stronger than Thanos is ignoring henshaw's shellacking of superman.

Yes, who are characters that are weaker than Thanos who throws down with amped Thor's for shits and giggles and still wins.

Never said it was a low showing it's something that's never happened to the Surfer and he's been hit by characters far stronger than he is.

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In Jack Kirby's own words he said he created both Darkseid and Galactus to be equal in power in their corresponding universes. DS beams at the time could erase anyone in the universe without question. Plus he didn't have to send the beams linearly after his victim. He could make them travel through both space and time causing them to only appear for the first time inside the foe and before the battle even started.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Listen kid, seriously you aren't a debater. It's not in you, sport.
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Odin was trying to kill him and failed to do so. The rest of the top tiers were oneshotted while Thanos went toe to toe and Odin ended up lip servicing him at the end of the day. Props to Thanos.
So you think Odin was going all out in Asgard? Odin would've killed Thanos eventually......

At his best he uses shields against uber threats but this is one case I agree with you. he doesn't need the shields against someone less powerful than Odin. I agree 100 percent. Against cosmic beings such as Galactus, Omega he brings his a game not against Seid who was beaten by Firestorm. 🙄
No he didn't.....he deflected the Oe, the only known instance in the pc era.........I thought you were an all knowing comic book god.🙂 And you've not proven that the shield is standard equipment.............

Your jokes fail.

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How doesn't he? His strength feats are better by direct comparison to Superman's as I already pointed out. That's a much weaker Hulk to boot. If you have any strength feats you know of in arcs you read feel free to post them, but I know you can't.
So now Gray Hulk>Hulk? What part of pis don't you understand? Plus Thanos has only humbled Professor Hulk and has never confronted Savage Hulk...........

Beating Superman for a majority is neither here nor there WW isn't strong enough to overpower the Hulk let alone the Thing simultaneously.
Superman still has better strength feats no matter what brain dead assessment you make to demean him. Do you really think that a class 80-100 Thing would be a match up For Superman?

Sorry, but you lose and you failed to derail the thread
Yes I did failed to derail the thread..........that was all your doing.🙂

I called you on it and already posted their health was tie to the planet. I called you on it immediately. You admitted you were wrong and I am still laughing at you.

From Obd wiki

Quanchi - Biased anti - DC, pro - Marvel fanboy. Especially a fanboy of Thanos. Likes to arbitrarily declare things non - canon because they don't support his arguments. Often seen engaged in debates with TricksterPriest.

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Again your rants just prove how worked up you are. Prove Superman is the strongest there is or shut up.[./quote]The planet pulling feat, the moon tossing feat and etc.......but your just going to ignore them and say nughn ughn.dur

[quote]Thanos never doubted his strength against the Hulk, ever. Liar. You again don't have a clue what you are talking about.

He avoided conflict with him, close enough. I guess he just avoided him because he owed him money, amirite?

Iyw maybe that's what it means not in mine. Thanos is well above top tier while Superman isn't. Plain and simple.
Your argument is baseless and repetitious, plain and simple.

Whether he has superspeed or not it's irrelevant as he didn't use said speed in hp. That's the point, kid.
Yes it is, because it was my general point.facepalm

I have never heard that. The writer who wrote that arc barely had Thor lose and that's just his opinion meaning the fight could have gone either way. I can live with that. Supes wins 3-4 out of 10 against Thor.
He barely lost yet he still lost.🙂 I know you like to pick and choose, but the world doesn't revolve around Quanchi...........

He beat the Surfer to death in a few blows while Supes can't even beat Orion who is less durable than the Surfer. saying superman is stronger than Thanos is ignoring henshaw's shellacking of superman.
And how did you come to that dumbass conclusion? Strawman arguments are for chumps buddy.

Yes, who are characters that are weaker than Thanos who throws down with amped Thor's for shits and giggles and still wins.
Based off biased, illogical, unfounded claims? Because Thanos beated tEh hUC aand teh Thingz!!!!!!!! He didn't face pg Thor in pure h2h, the feat only applies to his durability.

Never said it was a low showing it's something that's never happened to the Surfer and he's been hit by characters far stronger than he is.

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Low showing=a feat that doesn't do justice to a certain character's abilities. According to you Superman fighting peers is proof to him being inferior to the likes of Thanos......even though you disregard the fact that Supes has better feats on panel...........all while ignoring or trying to debunk his high end lifting and punching feats with nonsensical bullshit.............basically your using those feats as low showings, even though they're clearly not........you maybe oblivious to it, but your clearing doing it............

Originally posted by h1a8
In Jack Kirby's own words he said he created both Darkseid and Galactus to be equal in power in their corresponding universes. DS beams at the time could erase anyone in the universe without question. Plus he didn't have to send the beams linearly after his victim. He could make them travel through both space and time causing them to only appear for the first time inside the foe and before the battle even started.

You mean the same Galactus who (when written at that time) got beat by Thor and was deathly afraid of Ego? You mean THAT Galactus?

Also, where exactly did this interview come from? Lastly, you DO know writer's opinions of a character does not necessarily dictate what happens on-panel or what a character's power levels get set as (as power levels fluctuate when other people, such as the editor, get ahold of the material).

I don't even know why I bother replying to any of your posts, they rarely ever contain any good points. :-/

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You mean the same Galactus who (when written at that time) got beat by Thor and was deathly afraid of Ego? You mean THAT Galactus?

Also, where exactly did this interview come from? Lastly, you DO know writer's opinions of a character does not necessarily dictate what happens on-panel or what a character's power levels get set as (as power levels fluctuate when other people, such as the editor, get ahold of the material).

I don't even know why I bother replying to any of your posts, they rarely ever contain any good points. :-/


Well in that case DS>Thor>Galactus>Odin>Thanos

But no not that one. The one where he is omnipotent and create beings with limitless power like Silver Surfer when not hungry.

Well DS can destroy both by the method of my previous post. Did you miss it? Hint: it was the one you are quoting from.

I recently added Quan to my ignore list but I still read his posts if others quote them. I just saw him claim Surfer's durability>Orion's and was reminded why I added him on my ignore list.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I recently added Quan to my ignore list but I still read his posts if others quote them. I just saw him claim Surfer's durability>Orion's and was reminded why I added him on my ignore list.

Thats not really that farfetched at all. 😬

Originally posted by h1a8
In Jack Kirby's own words he said he created both Darkseid and Galactus to be equal in power in their corresponding universes. DS beams at the time could erase anyone in the universe without question. Plus he didn't have to send the beams linearly after his victim. He could make them travel through both space and time causing them to only appear for the first time inside the foe and before the battle even started.
Jack Kirby isn't the only writer who handles Darkseid. I don't just use certain writer's thoughts on Thor such as Simonson do I? I don't just use Starlin's Thanos do I?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
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So you think Odin was going all out in Asgard? Odin would've killed Thanos eventually......

No he didn't.....he deflected the Oe, the only known instance in the pc era.........I thought you were an all knowing comic book god.🙂 And you've not proven that the shield is standard equipment.............

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So now Gray Hulk>Hulk? What part of pis don't you understand? Plus Thanos has only humbled Professor Hulk and has never confronted Savage Hulk...........

Superman still has better strength feats no matter what brain dead assessment you make to demean him. Do you really think that a class 80-100 Thing would be a match up For Superman?

Yes I did failed to derail the thread..........that was all your doing.🙂

From Obd wiki

Quanchi - Biased anti - DC, pro - Marvel fanboy. Especially a fanboy of Thanos. Likes to arbitrarily declare things non - canon because they don't support his arguments. Often seen engaged in debates with TricksterPriest.

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He avoided conflict with him, close enough. I guess he just avoided him because he owed him money, amirite?

Your argument is baseless and repetitious, plain and simple.

Yes it is, because it was my general point.facepalm

He barely lost yet he still lost.🙂 I know you like to pick and choose, but the world doesn't revolve around Quanchi...........

And how did you come to that dumbass conclusion? Strawman arguments are for chumps buddy.

Based off biased, illogical, unfounded claims? Because Thanos beated tEh hUC aand teh Thingz!!!!!!!! He didn't face pg Thor in pure h2h, the feat only applies to his durability.

Low showing=a feat that doesn't do justice to a certain character's abilities. According to you Superman fighting peers is proof to him being inferior to the likes of Thanos......even though you disregard the fact that Supes has better feats on panel...........all while ignoring or trying to debunk his high end lifting and punching feats with nonsensical bullshit.............basically your using those feats as low showings, even though they're clearly not........you maybe oblivious to it, but your clearing doing it............

Iyo. He was trying to kill Thanos and you usually don't hold back when you are trying to kill someone when they just showed up invading your homeland with your beloved son in chains? Do you have a lick of common sense?

So Ds won in that appearance? LOL. I never claimed to have read it all I just know a lot more than you and I just recently got back into comics after a 12 year hiatus. LOL.

He has used shields when he needed them and it's your claim to prove it's not in his normal tech but common sense tells me he only uses these types of shields when he knows he needs them. He won't need them here on Seid.

I never stated that. Just because one Hulk succeeds in a feat like that that means that doesn't mean more powerful hulks can't succeed there as well. I mean come on, man. You are too featish. You lack common sense that it takes to read these stories and are just concerned with planet shattering feats and what not.

Thanos ordered savage Hulk around and saved him from Namor's wrath in the marvel's the end. LOL. You didn't know that did you? Thanos either overpowers him, bitchslaps him, or bosses him around so take your pick.

I never said thing would be not once. I said Superman can't overpower both the Huk and the Thing like Thanos did. Please go on about these feats which prove it an dname something that isn't devoid of context.

No, just because someone has superspeed if it isn't written or drawn we can't assume it was being used. I think DD is fast but you can't say anywhere near millisecond or nanosecond against hp as it wasn't referenced in the story. Superman gets hit all the time by slower characters it's how writers draw readers in they can't have every battle happening in nanoseconds. Wow.

I don't like to leave out the context like you have been known to do. He did barely lose with Thor completely acting out of character to a feat he had already seen twenty years back. It won't happen again that's for sure.

Because Thanos beat someone arguably more durable than Superman to death quite easily while Supes struggles with people less durable than the Surfer such as Orion and Marvel. They are peers to Superman while Thanos is above all these guys. It's common sense on any site.

He was pounding on Thor and Thor was pounding on him. Of course he used other powers who doesn't when battling but the point is even an amped team wrecker Thor still didn't even cause more than a nosebleed despite his strength and power increase.

Superman has better feats sure. Hulk, Surfer, and Thor have better feats than Thanos but when you match them up it's no contest. That's the point, featboy. You are like a poster who refuses to evolve.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I recently added Quan to my ignore list but I still read his posts if others quote them. I just saw him claim Surfer's durability>Orion's and was reminded why I added him on my ignore list.
If you add someone to your ignore list then ignore them don't spout off about me. Surfer is more durable than Orion it's a pretty accurate statement.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo. He was trying to kill Thanos and you usually don't hold back when you are trying to kill someone when they just showed up invading your homeland with your beloved son in chains? Do you have a lick of common sense?
So you think that Odin would use his full power while in Asgard? Or for the matter, how do you know that Odin had to go all out just to beat him? You never took those alternatives into consideration did you?

So Ds won in that appearance? LOL. I never claimed to have read it all I just know a lot more than you and I just recently got back into comics after a 12 year hiatus. LOL.
Funny how you assumed I didn't read the Man of steel comic and called me out for it, but when you take something of context from an old Jla story, it's ok.🙂 For someone in such denial, you sure do manage to make a hypocritical ass of yourself by your own admission........your not even mature enough to admit your were you wrong.hysterical

He has used shields when he needed them and it's your claim to prove it's not in his normal tech but common sense tells me he only uses these types of shields when he knows he needs them. He won't need them here on Seid.
So is it in character for him to use them and does it count as standard equipment? You've still haven't bothered to counter that claim, Mr.ImsobadassbecuzIwasintehbattlezonezzzz!

I never stated that. Just because one Hulk succeeds in a feat like that that means that doesn't mean more powerful hulks can't succeed there as well. I mean come on, man. You are too featish. You lack common sense that it takes to read these stories and are just concerned with planet shattering feats and what not.
Wowsers, so we can now use feats for another version of a character, with a different powerset? I never knew that, I guess that's one of those forum rules I never heard about? You can't apply a feat from a class 70-100 character, to it's much more powerful incarnation.......especially since the feat isn't with in his normal range of powers. Why are you allowed to pick and choose, but when I list some strength feats of my own, you try to debunk them with lousy cop out arguments? This is blantant hypocrisy in every sense in the word. 🙂

Thanos ordered savage Hulk around and saved him from Namor's wrath in the marvel's the end. LOL. You didn't know that did you? Thanos either overpowers him, bitchslaps him, or bosses him around so take your pick.
So ordering someone around=physical feat now? Lulz, that's called reaching my not so bright friend. Again when has Thanos beaten savage Hulk?

I never said thing would be not once. I said Superman can't overpower both the Huk and the Thing like Thanos did. Please go on about these feats which prove it an dname something that isn't devoid of context.
He sure as hell could beat the shit out of Professor Hulk and The Thing wouldn't even able to hurt Supes let alone be a factor in that type of match up........

No, just because someone has superspeed if it isn't written or drawn we can't assume it was being used. I think DD is fast but you can't say anywhere near millisecond or nanosecond against hp as it wasn't referenced in the story. Superman gets hit all the time by slower characters it's how writers draw readers in they can't have every battle happening in nanoseconds. Wow.
Yeah we can't assume it's being used, even though the writer made it a point to have two characters acknowledge it......The rest of your post is nonsensical dribble, that doesn't help your case.

I don't like to leave out the context like you have been known to do. He did barely lose with Thor completely acting out of character to a feat he had already seen twenty years back. It won't happen again that's for sure.
Just admit it, you wanted to see Superman butt raped by Thor.......but it didn't happen.🙂

Because Thanos beat someone arguably more durable than Superman to death quite easily while Supes struggles with people less durable than the Surfer such as Orion and Marvel. They are peers to Superman while Thanos is above all these guys. It's common sense on any site.
Since your so intent on convincing me that Captain Marvel and Orion are less durable than SS, why don't you back it up with on panel proof instead of unfounded claims that you pulled out your ass............It's a sign of desperation when you make bold claims like that Quan.

He was pounding on Thor and Thor was pounding on him. Of course he used other powers who doesn't when battling but the point is even an amped team wrecker Thor still didn't even cause more than a nosebleed despite his strength and power increase.
He would of also caused an ass whooping if not for cheating......Just give up with this feat, it's no way a testament to his strength, only his durability.

Superman has better feats sure. Hulk, Surfer, and Thor have better feats than Thanos but when you match them up it's no contest. That's the point, featboy. You are like a poster who refusea
Out of all of those feats, he only physically dominated the Surfer........and I'm sorry for relying on consistent character feats, rather than bullshit claims the negates what actually occurs in comic books.🙂

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I like Seid, but come on, this is spite.
This is PC Darkseid, the same one that was able to punk out the Lords of Order and Chaos and slap PC Kryptonians and Daxamites into comas

Darkseid stomps this fight

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team wtf stomp him.

Thanos soloes.
Odin soloes, but worst.

You're an idiot

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
So you think that Odin would use his full power while in Asgard? Or for the matter, how do you know that Odin had to go all out just to beat him? You never took those alternatives into consideration did you?

Funny how you assumed I didn't read the Man of steel comic and called me out for it, but when you take something of context from an old Jla story, it's ok.🙂 For someone in such denial, you sure do manage to make a hypocritical ass of yourself by your own admission........your not even mature enough to admit your were you wrong.hysterical

So is it in character for him to use them and does it count as standard equipment? You've still haven't bothered to counter that claim, Mr.ImsobadassbecuzIwasintehbattlezonezzzz!

Wowsers, so we can now use feats for another version of a character, with a different powerset? I never knew that, I guess that's one of those forum rules I never heard about? You can't apply a feat from a class 70-100 character, to it's much more powerful incarnation.......especially since the feat isn't with in his normal range of powers. Why are you allowed to pick and choose, but when I list some strength feats of my own, you try to debunk them with lousy cop out arguments? This is blantant hypocrisy in every sense in the word. 🙂

So ordering someone around=physical feat now? Lulz, that's called reaching my not so bright friend. Again when has Thanos beaten savage Hulk?

He sure as hell could beat the shit out of Professor Hulk and The Thing wouldn't even able to hurt Supes let alone be a factor in that type of match up........

Yeah we can't assume it's being used, even though the writer made it a point to have two characters acknowledge it......The rest of your post is nonsensical dribble, that doesn't help your case.

Just admit it, you wanted to see Superman butt raped by Thor.......but it didn't happen.🙂

Since your so intent on convincing me that Captain Marvel and Orion are less durable than SS, why don't you back it up with on panel proof instead of unfounded claims that you pulled out your ass............It's a sign of desperation when you make bold claims like that Quan.

He would of also caused an ass whooping if not for cheating......Just give up with this feat, it's no way a testament to his strength, only his durability.

Out of all of those feats, he only physically dominated the Surfer........and I'm sorry for relying on consistent character feats, rather than bullshit claims the negates what actually occurs in comic books.🙂

Why wouldn't he use his full power is asgard? Are you seriously this foolish as to think why the ruler of asgard would hold back his power to protect his son or his land?

I don't think you have read more than five Thor comics tbh. The comic clearly shows us Odin was intent on killing Thanos and at no point even hints at holding back so if it's your claim then back it up. All you do is make random claims with no proof whatsoever to back up your claims and then you have the audacity to boldly say prove me wrong. Such ignorance and a lack of debating fundamentals in general on your part.

I am asking you if Ds won in that appearance vs. Firestorm? Can you answer it? You looked it up afterwards, but common sense tells me either one of two things.

a)You skimmed through a respect thread someone and found it.

or

b)Why would you post this feat if you read the story because that would mean you intentionally lied.

Which is it?

a)ignorance
b)lying

It's the same character. I can use feats of strength for all Hulks because common sense tells us if a weaker Hulk can do the same feat that a stronger Hulk could replicate it. How often is a character going to have to destroy an asteroid twice the size of the earth? Most of these feats are just creative ways writers build drama in their stories and won't ever occur again. If Abom overpowers the Hulk we don't need to see him headbutt the moon to know he's stronger than that Hulk.

I don't need to prove the claim. You made the claim IT ISN'T STANDARD TECH. Please, by all means prove me wrong. I don't even think he needs shields against darkseid. he has been durable enough to take Odin's blasts and punishment so why would he use shields on a less powerful character than Odin. Logic for the win by me once again.

Why would Thanos fight the Hulk when he is following his orders? We have seen Thanos bitchslap and overpower him already. Thanos saved the Hulk from Namor anyways. Didn't the Surfer already tank blows from a pissed off Hulk who is >>>than Norrin in power, strength, and durability already. I mean use your head for once.

That's irrelevant and as I already previously explained with the writer and the circumstances involved I can live with it. Thor himself tells us it would go a different way next time. Characters can also be stronger or have better days than the other one and this was explained by the same writer meaning I think Thor had a bad day while Supes had a good one.

Black adam and Superman have caused Marvel and orion massive damage as has darkseid. Orion was on his death bed in countdown while I can't recall Surfer ever having been this trashed by someone on Darkseid's level. Surfer has shaken off Hulk blows like they were nothing and she hulk hit the guy and he didn't even look phased in the slightest.

There is no way to beat someone physically with the power gem so only an idiot would keep on fighting him physically. Thanos did so because he was powerful enough and then ended it when he wanted it. Even Stephen Strange was shocked Thanos had the power to contain Thor. That's another testament to how awesome Thanos is and he just had that toy lying around.

Thanos beat a guy whose durability is through the roof to near death in a few blows and has easily overpowered the Hulk and the Thing.

The Hulk, Surfer, Thor, and Superman are all peers while Thanos is above them all.

😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why wouldn't he use his full power is asgard? Are you seriously this foolish as to think why the ruler of asgard would hold back his power to protect his son or his land?

I don't think you have read more than five Thor comics tbh. The comic clearly shows us Odin was intent on killing Thanos and at no point even hints at holding back so if it's your claim then back it up. All you do is make random claims with no proof whatsoever to back up your claims and then you have the audacity to boldly say prove me wrong. Such ignorance and a lack of debating fundamentals in general on your part.

So Odin would use his most destructive blast against Thanos in Asgard? He wouldn't give a shit about destroying his own land? Just because someone wants to kill another person doesn't mean they don't hold back......the consequences stretches beyond ones own conflict and can cause the deaths of bystanders and such........that's why in real life, an armed military wouldn't nuke the shit out of continent just to kill one low life f*cker. And I love how you use "audacity" for the first time ever, after I used it.......not to mention the similarly structured sentences slightly tweaked, applied to your own cases......but you'll probably tell me some bullshit about not emulating others vocab.🙂

I am asking you if Ds won in that appearance vs. Firestorm? Can you answer it? You looked it up afterwards, but common sense tells me either one of two things.
I never read the story myself, but I'm pretty sure Firestorm didn't beat him.🙄 I just goes to show that you use respect threads as sources just like everyone else.🙂

a)You skimmed through a respect thread someone and found it.
Just like you did.crylaugh

or

b)Why would you post this feat if you read the story because that would mean you intentionally lied.

Which feat, the firestorm one?

Which is it?

a)ignorance
b)lying

How about you ask yourself that question, since you brought it up in the first place.

It's the same character. I can use feats of strength for all Hulks because common sense tells us if a weaker Hulk can do the same feat that a stronger Hulk could replicate it. How often is a character going to have to destroy an asteroid twice the size of the earth? Most of these feats are just creative ways writers build drama in their stories and won't ever occur again. If Abom overpowers the Hulk we don't need to see him headbutt the moon to know he's stronger than that Hulk.
So know your saying that Abomination>/=Superman? Seriously, Gtfo with that crap. Grey Hulk is a class 70-100 brick and has always been depicted as such. Do you know what that means? He's not a class 100+ thus the feat doesn't qualify as admissible.......why do you insist on grasping at straws? You said it yourself Quan, those "feats are just creative ways writers build drama in their stories and won't ever occur again." Aka a plot device...........You can't apply that feat to a different incarnation of The Hulk, because it was pis for Joe Fixit to do so in the first place.

I don't need to prove the claim. You made the claim IT ISN'T STANDARD TECH. Please, by all means prove me wrong. I don't even think he needs shields against darkseid. he has been durable enough to take Odin's blasts and punishment so why would he use shields on a less powerful character than Odin. Logic for the win by me once again.
Ok Quan, when did he use shields that were classified as tech, ever again in canon? That's the whole basis of my argument.........all your doing is dodging and repeating yourself........since your not able to convince me that Thanos has ever used a shield that powerful in another story, or that doing such is in character, the feat proves jackshit......

Why would Thanos fight the Hulk when he is following his orders? We have seen Thanos bitchslap and overpower him already. Thanos saved the Hulk from Namor anyways. Didn't the Surfer already tank blows from a pissed off Hulk who is >>>than Norrin in power, strength, and durability already. I mean use your head for once.
Thanos has only beaten Professor Hulk.......you know the incarnation that's not Savage Hulk? Why can't you grasp that? And you can't prove that Savage Hulk was nearly as strong as Superman, when he fought SS, BECAUSE HE HAS VARYING LEVELS OF STRENGTH! Speculation is all you have.........and I'm damn sure Thanos has never bossed around Savage Hulk....a guy so agressively retarded, that he'll pick a fight with anyone.😬

That's irrelevant and as I already previously explained with the writer and the circumstances involved I can live with it. Thor himself tells us it would go a different way next time. Characters can also be stronger or have better days than the other one and this was explained by the same writer meaning I think Thor had a bad day while Supes had a good one.
Translation: I don't like it, so I'm going to make any excuse necessary to ignore it.🙂

Black adam and Superman have caused Marvel and orion massive damage as has darkseid. Orion was on his death bed in countdown while I can't recall Surfer ever having been this trashed by someone on Darkseid's level. Surfer has shaken off Hulk blows like they were nothing and she hulk hit the guy and he didn't even look phased in the slightest.
..............There's so much idiocy in this post, that I'm not even going to bother with retorting it.😐

There is no way to beat someone physically with the power gem so only an idiot would keep on fighting him physically. Thanos did so because he was powerful enough and then ended it when he wanted it. Even Stephen Strange was shocked Thanos had the power to contain Thor. That's another testament to how awesome Thanos is and he just had that toy lying around.
So were supposed to assume that Thor had infinite physical stats, despite that theirs no way of proving such a claim? That's called speculating potna, something that's not allowed on Kmc.......and you since you pretty much admit that Thanos didn't physically duel with Thor, concession accepted.🙂

Thanos beat a guy whose durability is through the roof to near death in a few blows and has easily overpowered the Hulk and the Thing.
Lulz, at you still leaning on this worn out and pathetic arguments.👇

The Hulk, Surfer, Thor, and Superman are all peers while Thanos is above them all.
Lulz, at Hulk being a peer.......and the rest of those characters aren't as strong as Clark......Just because you can beat a top tier, doesn't mean that your physically stronger than them. It's like saying "because Thanos tagged the Runner, he's faster than the Flash" That's why half assed abc logic fails.🙂

I'm surprised Hazsekswthurmom has lasted this long. I give him or her an A++ for effort. 🙂

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I'm surprised Hazsekswthurmom has lasted this long. I give him or her an A++ for effort. 🙂

When marathon debating(TM) Quan the trick is to see through his various attempts at exploiting semantics and cherry picking your arguments and to avoid losing your temper when he gets really ridiculous.

I just ignore him for the most part. I don't see why they let that guy back in here.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I just ignore him for the most part. I don't see why they let that guy back in here.

Seems they should have banned him when they banned that Nver guy to even things out.