I've gotta go with Spidey, he has a huge strength advantage and should still have a reflex advantage even without his spidey senses tingling. Spidey probably has more experience fighting super agile oppenents as well since Marvel has "cloned" him in the form of Carnage, Venom, etc. I'm not counting training with Beast in the danger room as fighting experience, sorry Kurt.
I think the no teleporting rule really gimps Nightcrawler. It turns him into a wimpier version of Beast.
Originally posted by Kasper Gutmanif i added the teleporting kurt would take out spidey for sure without his spidey sense cause he wouldnt know where kurt would be popping out of.
I've gotta go with Spidey, he has a huge strength advantage and should still have a reflex advantage even without his spidey senses tingling. Spidey probably has more experience fighting super agile oppenents as well since Marvel has "cloned" him in the form of Carnage, Venom, etc. I'm not counting training with Beast in the danger room as fighting experience, sorry Kurt.I think the no teleporting rule really gimps Nightcrawler. It turns him into a wimpier version of Beast.
I'd like this fight if Spidey had everything but spider sense and Kurt had to limit his poofing an opponent away to only a couple hundred yards and not a couple miles. This would limit Kurt from poofing Spidey straight up in the air a couple times until it's a battle field removal. Spidey can web parachute down but it would take some time. There's still that pesky strength advantage though.
Originally posted by KingD19Peak humans have tagged Flash before, and by that logic peak humans can tag Superman on a vs forum. Also when they fought Spider-man was holding back as he always does. Kurt can't speedblitz him, Parker I believe is faster and as agile. If NC was allowed to teleport he'd take a majority, athough Spider-man would've won SOME if he had his ss. But if no ss and no teleportation Parker takes a solid majority.
Kurt speedblitzed him when they fought before, and am I wrong in saying regular people have tagged Spidey in a h2h fight???
Given the stipulations...
Spiderman has the strength advantage.
Each is about equal for speed/agility (a portion of Pete's "speed/reflex" is due to his spidersense; without it, he still has superhuman reflexes, but not to a degree much greater than Kurt's).
Each is a good fighter, within the context of their own styles/experience.
Spidey has a slight advantage in terms of relative endurance (seems that he can take more of a beating that Nightcrawler)
Kurt's tail gives a slight advantage for grappling/altering direction in close quarters.
A general draw. If Kurt can make use of environment/terrain, then he can win. If Pete goes all out and wails on him, then he can win.