Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
PG stated she was stronger than CM. WW is at least as strong as PG.Besides, WW takes this due to skill.
Captain Marvel has stalemated Superman in strength multiple times.
Wonder Woman >= Power Girl > Captain Marvel = Superman? I don't think so.
Diana has the skill advantage, Billy has every other imaginable. He'll take the majority here.
Originally posted by Soljer
Captain Marvel has stalemated Superman in strength multiple times.Wonder Woman >= Power Girl > Captain Marvel = Superman? I don't think so.
Diana has the skill advantage, Billy has every other imaginable. He'll take the majority here.
Originally posted by Soljer
Captain Marvel has stalemated Superman in strength multiple times.Wonder Woman >= Power Girl > Captain Marvel = Superman? I don't think so.
Diana has the skill advantage, Billy has every other imaginable. He'll take the majority here.
I thought this was due to CM being magical based, not that he was *actually* as strong as Superman?
And may I ask a question? Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules, right? Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules. Why does it follow that CM is stronger than WW? I'm not talking about panel feats, but I mean from a logical standpoint. Has it even been explained why his strength would be stronger than hers? I'm not being sarcastic. I'm truly asking. And I want more than just "Superman said . . ." Superman also basically said that a punch from Diana is like that of Captain Marvel so I'm not sure he's the best barometer.
there is no speed advantage here for either, billy is not going to speed blitz diana lol, and vis versa.
this fight can go either way.
I would much prefer a BA vs diana fight, myself. In this fight i see diana and marvel holding back.
In a BA vs WW fight i think they would both be willing to kill each other.
Originally posted by zeel
there is no speed advantage here for either, billy is not going to speed blitz diana lol, and vis versa.this fight can go either way.
I would much prefer a BA vs diana fight, myself. In this fight i see diana and marvel holding back.
In a BA vs WW fight i think they would both be willing to kill each other.
Captain marvel speed blitz superman three times from what I remember. Why wouldnt he be able to speed blitz her and captain marvel has always been depicted as supermans equal.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
See above.
I don't pay much heed to what Superman says for the most part, but i do pay attention to what he does.
He may say a punch from WW is like a punch from Cap Marvel, but he's never treated Cap the way he treats Diana.
He's always presented as holding the edge over Diana in all their fights. She's on the defensive for the most part in their tussles, whereas with Cap and his ilk, it's always presented as an even match.
Whether Cap, Teth or Orion, they give him pause.
Diana gets the J'onn treatment, a haymaker and sand on the eyelids.
Why is Cap presented as a peer where Diana is the inferior, history with Fawcett, first Superman clone(not!), or whatever, he gets that nod, and she doesn't.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't pay much heed to what Superman says for the most part, but i do pay attention to what he does.He may say a punch from WW is like a punch from Cap Marvel, but he's never treated Cap the way he treats Diana.
He's always presented as holding the edge over Diana in all their fights. She's on the defensive for the most part in their tussles, whereas with Cap and his ilk, it's always presented as an even match.
Whether Cap, Teth or Orion, they give him pause.
Diana gets the J'onn treatment, a haymaker and sand on the eyelids.
Why is Cap presented as a peer where Diana is the inferior, history with Fawcett, first Superman clone(not!), or whatever, he gets that nod, and she doesn't.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
I thought this was due to CM being magical based, not that he was *actually* as strong as Superman?And may I ask a question? Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules, right? Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules. Why does it follow that CM is stronger than WW? I'm not talking about panel feats, but I mean from a logical standpoint. Has it even been explained why his strength would be stronger than hers? I'm not being sarcastic. I'm truly asking. And I want more than just "Superman said . . ." Superman also basically said that a punch from Diana is like that of Captain Marvel so I'm not sure he's the best barometer.
As Uni attempted to explain, and you seemed to ignore, the H in SHAZAM is a different Hercules than standard DC Hercules.
It refers to a lord of magic - of which there are, apparently, many many versions.
So, Wonder Woman's Herc and Captain Marvel's are as different as DC's and Marvels.
Originally posted by SoljerSorry. I have it on paper that the herakles that Gives shazam his power is the same one that Diana is has beaten.
As Uni attempted to explain, and you seemed to ignore, the H in SHAZAM is a different Hercules than standard DC Hercules.It refers to a lord of magic - of which there are, apparently, many many versions.
So, Wonder Woman's Herc and Captain Marvel's are as different as DC's and Marvels.
Originally posted by UniOmni
JLA:League of One,
For Tomorrow
SacrificeMost recent i remember.
Originally posted by Soljer
As Uni attempted to explain, and you seemed to ignore, the H in SHAZAM is a different Hercules than standard DC Hercules.It refers to a lord of magic - of which there are, apparently, many many versions.
So, Wonder Woman's Herc and Captain Marvel's are as different as DC's and Marvels.
Unless I am psychic, there is no way I could ignore the answer to a question, before I receive the answer.