Diana has already stalemated CM a few upgrades ago. Even Superman considers CM to hit the same as Diana and he's stated so on panel.
Her gear (bracers, tiara, and lasso) are too much because they are roughly equal physically. Now if he had some huge physical trait that dwarfed hers I could see him taking a higher majority. For Superman it's his significantly superior strength and defenses that give him a majority on her.
Billy would win 7/10.
For the Silver Age stalemate that is claimed on WW's behalf, it is failed to be mentioned that CM was the one who was still portrayed as physically superior. And the popular scan that floats around fails to show the page of the encounter before that when he knocked her around with a sloppy power shot. She of course deftly dodged a follow up blow and and double pushed kicked him or whatever to the gut.
And the above showing is just the thing; She's a better fighter than Supes and Marvel and has the superior reaction time that allows her to be competitive with either. No more no less.
Forget comparing the scant number of lifting feats for both of them, Marvel has physically restrained an Eclipso possessed Superman twice in a full nelson/headlock.The first time Eclipso Supes only got out after Marvel was distracted, the second time Supes despite visibly struggling and even headbutting Marvel with the back of his head still failed to get out and only after turning back to Billy was Supes able to be free.
And there is the 2 hour arm wrestling stalemate.
Diana would not be depicted as doing any of the above seeing as she is consistently described and portrayed as only being 'close' to Superman, whereas Billy has never suffered anything less than staunch equality, and on a few occasions is even showed to be superior or mentioned, by Supes himself no less.
-Supes statement that WW hits as hard as CM? Don't really buy it, just by comparing how the two different fights go on a consistent basis. With Captain Marvel being the one who can break Supes' nose with one punch. Still even if WW does hit Supes as hard as CM does, that is easily explained by CM being the one holding back (confirmed when Supes and CM fused) whereas WW does not hold back much.
-Equipment advantage? The reason her equipment gives Supes a problem is because they are magic, whereas Marvel is as close as you can get to being immune to magic. The lasso can still cause problems of course.
Written logically with both being serious (not necessarily bloodlusted) about knocking the other out in a slugfest, Cap would beat her down just as badly as Bizarro did(Who's another person that CM has had good physical showings against).
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Forget comparing the scant number of lifting feats for both of them, Marvel has physically restrained an Eclipso possessed Superman twice in a full nelson/headlock.The first time Eclipso Supes only got out after Marvel was distracted, the second time Supes despite visibly struggling and even headbutting Marvel with the back of his head still failed to get out and only after turning back to Billy was Supes able to be free.
what has eclipso got to do with anything? billy is supposed to be on clark's level, so holding him with leverage shouldn't exactly be difficult...
Originally posted by -Pr-
what has eclipso got to do with anything? billy is supposed to be on clark's level, so holding him with leverage shouldn't exactly be difficult...
Billy being Clark's equal is exactly what I'm trying to get across. 😐
Diana is not. Billy is.
(OTOH Billy has gotten out of similar situation when Clark was holding him. Just saying.)